Environmental Global Warming Movement Has a New Supporter: Charles Manson

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Global warming must be true, Charles Manson believes in it. Killer breaks 20-year silence on 40th anniversary of gruesome Sharon Tate murders


Dailymail UK
18th April 2011

Crazed cult leader Charles Manson has broken a 20-year silence in a prison interview coinciding with the 40th anniversary of his conviction for the gruesome Sharon Tate murders - to speak out about global warming.

'Everyone’s God and if we don’t wake up to that there’s going to be no weather because our polar caps are melting because we’re doing bad things to the atmosphere.

'If we don’t change that as rapidly as I’m speaking to you now, if we don’t put the green back on the planet and put the trees back that we’ve butchered, if we don’t go to war against the problem...' he added, trailing off.

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There's actually a story here! Must read!


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Charles Manson: Global Warming Prophet

The religion of death: James Jay Lee, along with many prominent environmentalists and academics, share their eugenicist belief system with the man who many consider to be evil incarnate

Infowars.com
September 7, 2010
 
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So are you saying those of us who believe in Global Warming shouldn't because we'd be linked to Manson?
 
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So are you saying those of us who believe in Global Warming shouldn't because we'd be linked to Manson?

Nah, it's more like you have this group of people who think they care more about the earth and humanity than this other group of people because of which scientists they choose to believe.

This is just sort of ironic because you have someone who murdered all these innocent people coming out and supposedly caring more about the earth and humanity and it shows how the issue has more to do with what scientists you listen to than how much empathy one might have for humanity or whatever.
 
Nah, it's more like you have this group of people who think they care more about the earth and humanity than this other group of people because of which scientists they choose to believe.

This is just sort of ironic because you have someone who murdered all these innocent people coming out and supposedly caring more about the earth and humanity and it shows how the issue has more to do with what scientists you listen to than how much empathy one might have for humanity or whatever.
I'm just trying to show the OP how childish and irrelevant this thread is. He's a Conservative. I could easily start a thread highlighting lots of unsavory people who support conservatism.
 
I'm just trying to show the OP how childish and nonsense this thread is. He's a Conservative. I could easily start a thread highlighting lots of unsavory people who support conservatism.

As unsavory as Charles Manson? The only ones I can think of are Dick Cheney and a few of the other neocons. Horowitz, for sure..

Also, Dailymail.uk made the connection, not the OP.
 
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As unsavory as Charles Manson?
I could highlight that Ted Bundy was a Republican activist and argue he was a lot more unsavory than Manson. But what would the point of doing it be other than try to make Republicans look bad? It's immature and irrelevant.
 
You can be such thing as a Rothbardian Environmentalist (conversationalist). But you would have to adopt the principle of property rights in its fullest sense. A nearly impossible task for the current crop of looters trying to save the world.
 
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There's actually a story here! Must read!


Flashback:

Charles Manson: Global Warming Prophet

The religion of death: James Jay Lee, along with many prominent environmentalists and academics, share their eugenicist belief system with the man who many consider to be evil incarnate

Infowars.com
September 7, 2010


Charles Manson, the man who masterminded the brutal murders of nine people in the summer of 1969 in an effort to spark a race war in America, has adopted a new cause from his prison cell in California – he is a prophet for the global warming movement – sharing common ground with top academics, environmentalists and even the White House science czar in calling for large numbers of human beings to be exterminated in the name of saving the Earth.

A study of Manson’s belief system is an alarming exercise in understanding the roots of the modern day eugenicist movement, which is propagated via the notion that overpopulation is killing the planet and causing global warming.

The infamous “Manson family” were responsible for the barbaric slayings of actress Sharon Tate and her unborn baby, as well as Rosemary LaBianca and her husband Leno, murders that sent shock waves through America and marked a sudden and crashing halt to the “free love” hippy movement of the 60′s. Manson himself shot and wounded one man, Bernard Crowe, and directed his cult-like followers in the murders of nine other victims.

Manson masterminded the murders in a bid to precipitate a race war between whites and blacks which he dubbed “Helter Skelter,” a term he took from the Beatles song of the same name. Manson and his followers were arrested for the murders in October, November and December of 1969 and all received life sentences.

Preaching the same cause as James Jay Lee, the crazed eco-warrior who stormed a Discovery Channel building last week armed with guns and explosives, Manson continues to attract a loyal following from new members of his “family” who share the notorious killer’s obsession with the need to exterminate humans in order to save the Earth from global warming.

Manson, who still adorns a Nazi swastika tattoo on his forehead, did not glom on to the global warming bandwagon after seeing Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth, the movie that gunman Lee cited as his inspiration, he was preaching about the need to kill people in order to save the polar ice caps from melting as far back as the mid-80′s.

Watch the following clip, filmed in 1987 by the Today Show, in which Manson attempts to absolve his role in the brutal murders of Sharon Tate, Rosemary LaBianca and seven others, by saying the slayings were justified in the name of the environment and expressing regret that he could not have killed more people.





Responding to a question about why he directed the killings, Manson responded, “I am working to save my air, my water, my trees and my wildlife, and I’m trying to do away with society.”

“Why don’t you tell them that the polar caps are melting because you’re creating so much heat with this machine,” continues Manson….”Maybe I should have killed four or five hundred people then I would have felt better, I would have felt like I’d really offered society something…..the truth is the planet Earth is dying.”

In a separate clip from the same interview, Manson chillingly states, “If I started murdering people, there’d be none of you left.”



The You Tube clips of Manson’s prison interviews are accompanied by hundreds of comments from people who agree with his barbarous views on the need to kill humans in order to save the Earth.

Manson also talks about the need to set up “suicide parlors” so that people can kill themselves in an orderly fashion so that the world can be cleansed of humans.

In another interview with Geraldo Rivera, Manson goes further, saying that 50 million dead will be required to please mother Earth.

“I’m gonna kill you, as many as I can. I’m gonna pile you up to the sky, I figure about 50 million,” said Manson, “I figure if I can get about 50 million of you I might be able to save my trees and my air and my water and my wildlife.”

Mason characterized the slaughter of 50 million people in the name of saving the planet as “just a drop in the bucket of what’s really coming.”

Watch the clip.



The fact that Manson, considered by many to be evil incarnate and the leader of one of the most creepy and bloodthirsty cults ever recorded, is now a prophet for the religion of global warming and climate change, proves that the real agenda behind global warming, neo-eugenics, has its roots in the darkest and most abhorrent recesses of the human mind.

Manson’s eugenicist doctrine didn’t end when television stations were banned from interviewing him in the late 80′s, the dark mystique surrounding the former cult leader continues to this day, with followers still attempting to communicate and meet with the now 75-year-old inmate of Corcoran State Prison, eager and receptive to his environmental message.

One such individual is a man Manson himself dubbed “Gray Wolf,” who moved close to the prison for the express purpose of hearing Manson’s insights on climate change and the environment. “Manson thinks the destruction of the environment is much more serious than we are being made out to believe,” Wolf told CNN. “Our government keeps covering up problems with pollution, with coal, with automobiles. Charlie says we need to get back to the horse.”

In calling for a return to the agrarian age, which ended in around 1700 as the industrial age began, Manson is echoing the propaganda of people like author and environmentalist Keith Farnish, who in a recent book called for acts of sabotage and environmental terrorism in blowing up dams and demolishing cities in order to return the planet to pre-industrial society. Prominent NASA global warming alarmist and Al Gore ally Dr. James Hansen endorsed Farnish’s book.

James Jay Lee also parroted this anti-industrialist creed, calling for the need to “disassemble civilization” in his online rant.

In a phone conversation, Manson characterized the emission of carbon dioxide as a sin punishable by criminal charges, in rhetoric chillingly similar to that espoused by global warming alarmist like Al Gore who have advocated carbon offsets and CO2 taxes as indulgences to pay for such activity.

“Crime is anything that’s done against your survival. Any sin against your life is crime. The problem is the atmosphere is dying, anything that sins against the air is a sin against your life, anybody that sins against the air should be considered a criminal and any sin against the air should be considered a crime,” said Manson.

Another of Manson’s “followers,” a 24 year-old woman Manson named “Star,” invoked the Club of Rome’s infamous 1990 publication entitled The First Global Revolution, in which the organization outlined how they would manufacture ecological scares in order to manipulate the public into accepting the imposition of a dictatorial world government run by them, when she talked about Manson’s belief that humans were the enemy of the Earth.

“The goal, really, the main goal is to basically save life on the planet Earth from the humans,” she said. “We have a key to make this goal accomplished, and that key is Charlie Manson,” she said.

But who should lead this crusade to rid the planet of evil humans, or “parasitic human infants” as James Jay Lee called them? Manson makes it clear who should be empowered to carry out the eugenics program in a 1987 interview with the BBC’s Bill Murphy, and it’s the same “planetary regime” that White House science czar John Holdren advocates to carry out forced abortions and mandatory sterilization procedures in his 1977 book Ecoscience.

Watch the clip.



“We’ve got to get a one world government,” rants Manson out of the blue, “We’ve got to have it man.”

Indeed, what could be termed Manson’s “official website,” which is named after the philosophy he coined, Air, Trees, Water, Animals (ATWA), features on its front page a globe with the words “One World Order” written underneath. A special page is dedicated to this promotion of a “one world order,” which includes a poem written by Manson about how the foundation of a one world order is closely related to a “green” lifestyle.

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Charles Manson’s “official” website advocates a one world order.

Manson’s call for a one world order to manage the planet on an environmentally sound basis mirrors the thoughts of James Lovelock, top environmentalist and creator of the Gaia hypothesis, who told the Guardian earlier this year that “democracy must be put on hold” to combat global warming and that “a few people with authority” should be allowed to run the planet.

Another Manson fan website, again named after the Air, Trees, Water and Animals acronym, proudly displays the mutilated corpse of pregnant victim Sharon Tate on its front page, declaring that Manson is both the God and the devil.

In 1975, one of Manson’s “family,” known as “Squeaky” Fromme, attempted to murder President Gerald Ford in the name of saving California’s redwood trees. In resorting to violence for the sake of environmentalism, Fromme shared the same motivations invoked by James Jay Lee some 35 years later.

Manson’s belief that humans need to be killed in large numbers in order to preserve the environment is one shared and promoted by many prominent academics and scientists, people like Dr. Eric R. Pianka, an American biologist based at the University of Texas in Austin. During a speech to the Texas Academy of Science in March 2006, Pianka advocated the need to exterminate 90% of the world’s population through the airborne ebola virus. The reaction from scores of top scientists and professors in attendance was not one of shock or revulsion – they stood and applauded Pianka’s call for mass genocide.

Saying the public was not ready to hear the information presented, Pianka began by exclaiming, “We’re no better than bacteria!”, as he jumped into a doomsday malthusian rant about overpopulation destroying the earth.

People like James Jay Lee are now turning such rhetoric into violent action, following in the footsteps of others like Francisco Lotero and 23-year-old Miriam Coletti, who killed themselves, their son, and attempted to kill their own baby as part of a suicide pact to bring attention to global warming.

Charlie Manson – the mastermind of some of the most gruesome and horrific murders America has ever seen – and a man who expressed regret during interviews that he didn’t get the chance to kill 50 million humans – believes vehemently in the same doctrine pushed by top environmentalists and academics, and he has a willing band of creepy “followers” on the outside whose mindset differs little from members of “the family” who followed Manson’s orders in butchering eight people, a new cadre of followers more than eager to further this religion of death.

Manson’s advocacy for the religion of death, and his call for violence in the name of global warming and overpopulation, would be dismissed as the inane rantings of an evil psychopath if it were not shared by people holding significant positions of power in government, academia and science today.

If this doctrine of neo-eugenics, also shared by crazed gunman James Jay Lee, the extended Manson “Family,” the parents in Argentina who killed their kids for climate change, and some of the top environmental scientists and academics in the world, is allowed to take hold, we can expect to see many more bizarre and tragic incidents like that witnessed last week in Silver Spring, Maryland.


SOURCE:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/charles-manson-global-warming-prophet.html
 
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I could highlight that Ted Bundy was a Republican activist and argue he was a lot more unsavory than Manson. But what would the point of doing it be other than try to make Republicans look bad? It's immature and irrelevant.

How long ago was this information (in bold) released?

Right now this is topical news. If somebody brings it up in 6 months, then it would depend on the context and how they brought it up.. If you said that people who don't believe in global warming don't care about humanity or the earth, and they brought him up, then it would be valid. If they just brought him up in the middle of the argument with no reason, context or lead-in to that information, then you would be correct.
 
Manson said he wanted to kill atleast 50 million people to save the rainforest (etc).
Hardcore environmentalists want to force us into a much less productive society to save the rainforest (etc). This would probably indirectly cause the death of millions through starvation.

Environmentalists vs. Manson, hm hm.
 
You understand my point. There's absolutely no relevance to highlighting that someone, like Manson, believes in a cause you disagree with other than to try to belittle that cause.
 
I could highlight that Ted Bundy was a Republican activist and argue he was a lot more unsavory than Manson.

Wikipedia: Ted Bundy

Back home in Washington in 1968, Bundy became a more focused and goal-oriented person. He managed the Seattle office of Nelson Rockefeller's Presidential campaign and attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami, Florida as a Rockefeller supporter.​


Ted Bundy supported the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party. :p
 
You understand my point. There's absolutely no relevance to highlighting that someone, like Manson, believes in a cause you disagree with other than to try to belittle that cause.


Charles Manson agrees, Population reduction will solve Global Warming.


2011 - The Link Between Eugenics & Global Warming Hype
John Holdren, President Obama's science czar, is one of many environmental extremists linking eugenics and the global warming ideology.​

2009 - Global Warming: Since People Are the Problem, Just Get Rid of Them
In November, the World Health Organization (WHO) will release a study on population growth and climate change that claims contraception plays a key role in combatting global warming.​
 
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Manson said he wanted to kill atleast 50 million people to save the rainforest (etc).
Hardcore environmentalists want to force us into a much less productive society to save the rainforest (etc). This would probably indirectly cause the death of millions through starvation.

Environmentalists vs. Manson, hm hm.
:rolleyes:

Manson said a lot of things. Quit giving the psycho the attention he craves.
 
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Manson said a lot of things. Quit giving the psycho the attention he craves.


Bombshell! Manson supported killing millions of people to save the Environment

Charles Manson:

"I'm gonna kill you, as many as I can. I'm gonna pile you up to the sky, I figure about 50 million," said Manson, "I figure if I can get about 50 million of you I might be able to save my trees and my air and my water and my wildlife."

 
Bombshell! Manson supported killing millions of people to save the Environment

Charles Manson:

"I'm gonna kill you, as many as I can. I'm gonna pile you up to the sky, I figure about 50 million," said Manson, "I figure if I can get about 50 million of you I might be able to save my trees and my air and my water and my wildlife."



But Frank, how else can the problem be solved? We have to save the earth! Making energy more expensive isn't even going to begin to touch this problem. We can't have all those unnecessary people screwing it up for us now can we?





/sarcasm
 
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