Elon Musk buys Twitter for $44 billion

You know that's not what's going to happen, right?

*shrug* Maybe it won't. That's why I said "if".

If it doesn't happen, then we'll be no worse off than we would have been anyway, and more people will have been exposed to the fact that most of the left are a bunch of hysterical authoritarians.

Internet ID is a required component of social credit scoring. What does it matter if you're using a VPN, which does still provide privacy and anonymity generally, if you have to register all access accounts with an ID and displays your name?

It doesn't matter if you're using a VPN. This was my point:

When it comes to anything involving the Internet, I have no concern at all over the "loss of a little more privacy and anonymity", because I have never been so naive or foolish as to imagine that there was ever any to lose in the first place. I already just assume that my identity (and everything I say or do) on any network-connected computer/phone/etc. is or will be known to whomever is sufficiently determined to discover it.

When I said "anything involving the Internet" and "any network-connected computer/phone/etc.", that's exactly what I meant - including VPNs.

Man, some of y'all sure can't look two steps ahead....

Man, we've been over this before ...

Everyone except you is an easily-manipulated idiot.

It's just a burden you'll have to learn to bear.
 
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Manufactured populism? Are you suggesting there is an evil cabal carefully crafting Elon's tweets, and they are the ones who keep violating the SEC?

Because his tweets are a main source of his right wing popularity.

No, Elon is well initiated into how to build a cult following on the back of structured, supporting propaganda operations. What you're saying is like suggesting that Trump single-handedly engineered his campaign and election merely by speaking at rallies. I didn't think "Manufactured Consent" would be such a foreign topic to long-time RPFers?!!
 
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No, Elon is well initiated into how to build a cult following on the back of structured, supporting propaganda operations. What you're saying is like suggesting that Trump single-handedly engineered his campaign and election merely by speaking at rallies. I didn't think "Manufactured Consent" would be such a foreign topic to long-time RPFers?!!

There's nothing he can't do, he's a billionaire!!

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There are things for which Elon Musk can (and should) be reasonably criticized.

There are likewise things for which he can (and should) be reasonably praised.

Dismissing or sneering at the latter things in order to preserve or protect the former things as uncontroverted proof of "controlled oppostion" is just an elaborately unproductive exercise in confirmation bias. It is intellectually sterile - it explains everything, and in so doing, it explains nothing. It is the ultimate self-justifying black pill.

I've pretty much given up ever thinking there's going to be a genuinely organic return to a state of blissful liberty.

Nearly every instance in which people were led out of bondage, there was usually some ulterior motive just beneath the surface. Sometimes nefarious, or sometimes just self-serving and relatively benign.

Having said that, I do well enough to 'get while the getting's good.' Because that's pretty much all I'm left with. We're beyond battening down the hatches at this point.

So if Musk tears down this whole woke censorship culture, only to turn it all back over in the end, maybe it's just the best I can hope for. The alternative here, is that Musk is a sneaky little snake, and I *STILL* have this giant Orwellian apparatus to contend with, in which case I haven't really lost anything, but might have gained at least something in the meantime, however fleeting.

I still don't know what to think about Musk. Maybe at best, I think he just another tech-nerd who will undoubtedly usher in another phase of big brother surveillance tools even if that isn't his intent. "Throw it in the woods" and all that.

But, he's a platform. And he's got a message that people need to hear. Because we're about one generation away from people having to check an old hard-cover encyclopedia to find out what 'free speech' means. -- That is, if they haven't burned the books.
 
I've pretty much given up ever thinking there's going to be a genuinely organic return to a state of blissful liberty.

Nearly every instance in which people were led out of bondage, there was usually some ulterior motive just beneath the surface. Sometimes nefarious, or sometimes just self-serving and relatively benign.

Having said that, I do well enough to 'get while the getting's good.' Because that's pretty much all I'm left with. We're beyond battening down the hatches at this point.

So if Musk tears down this whole woke censorship culture, only to turn it all back over in the end, maybe it's just the best I can hope for. The alternative here, is that Musk is a sneaky little snake, and I *STILL* have this giant Orwellian apparatus to contend with, in which case I haven't really lost anything, but might have gained at least something in the meantime, however fleeting.

I still don't know what to think about Musk. Maybe at best, I think he just another tech-nerd who will undoubtedly usher in another phase of big brother surveillance tools even if that isn't his intent. "Throw it in the woods" and all that.

But, he's a platform. And he's got a message that people need to hear. Because we're about one generation away from people having to check an old hard-cover encyclopedia to find out what 'free speech' means. -- That is, if they haven't burned the books.

You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.

No one is coming to save us.

Musk could live up to his every promise regarding Twitter, and by itself, that wouldn't change a thing.
 
No, Elon is well initiated into how to build a cult following on the back of structured, supporting propaganda operations. What you're saying is like suggesting that Trump single-handedly engineered his campaign and election merely by speaking at rallies. I didn't think "Manufactured Consent" would be such a foreign topic to long-time RPFers?!!

So... you're accusing Elon of posting memes that he thinks people will like?

He is certainly guilty of that I agree.
 
You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.

No one is coming to save us.

Musk could live up to his every promise regarding Twitter, and by itself, that wouldn't change a thing.

There is no way to "save" us. The only way up is down.

We need things to get a lot worse before things will get better.

And while Elon taking over Twitter may seem like a good thing, it is as the Russians like to say, a "provocation".

The left will retaliate, and escalate this culture war further.

Which is exactly what we need them to do.
 
There is no way to "save" us. The only way up is down.

We need things to get a lot worse before things will get better.

And while Elon taking over Twitter may seem like a good thing, it is as the Russians like to say, a "provocation".

The left will retaliate, and escalate this culture war further.

Which is exactly what we need them to do.

Not looking forward to the next major false flag.
 
There is no way to "save" us. The only way up is down.

We need things to get a lot worse before things will get better.

And while Elon taking over Twitter may seem like a good thing, it is as the Russians like to say, a "provocation".

The left will retaliate, and escalate this culture war further.

Which is exactly what we need them to do.

Yes.

I doubt the timing of the announcement of a new "Disinformation Governance Board" was entirely coincidental.
 
But 'sploding libtard heads, according to the twittersphere, makes it all worth it, right? What's a lil more tracking and loss of privacy and anonymity as long as we believe some libs heads are 'sploding? (Man, the controllers really have this down to a science....)

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Ugh, sorry Capt but this is what I mean by people not looking into Musk's background. I don't know about the SpaceX claim (screams DARPA though) but the Paypal and Tesla claims are flat out 100% inaccurate. He didn't found either of them and in the case of Tesla he bought a stake in the already founded and in-progress company and then forced the original founders out, with pay-offs and NDAs. Somehow that morphed into him "founding" Tesla, thanks to the media repeating the lie enough that people now believe it. It's memes like that which only reinforce his flat out false history.

So a moderator of RPF, proclaimed libertarian, is a fan of boiling the frog now eh? Drinkin' a bit too much of your own Kool-aid lately, I fear. Post up memes of the same tired 2016 election reactions and a handful of twittersphere pundits and watch everyone embrace their loss of a little more privacy and anonymity. Then after everyone is required to have the "Verified Internet ID" just to use email, we'll wonder "How did we get here???"

Not everyone but most. Who cares about accuracy and truth while we're led down the pretty garden path to absolute control....

The same man who heads up a company devoted to installing mind-reading and mind-control devices into people's brains is most certainly a strong advocate of individual thought and free speech :tears:

Clown World exists everywhere, apparently even on RPF.

Sorta wondering when Elon Musk, DARPA deepstate front-man, lover of massive government subsidies and Agenda 2030 carbon credits, became a hero to right-wing conservatives? Just because he may be involved in taking Twitter private and tweets a few words about free speech?

Seems scripted by the usual "If we tell the right that the left hates this person, the right will reflexively embrace this person" propaganda operations. It's a bit too obvious of a tactic used these days to get the right to embrace people as standard-bearers that they should not embrace. I guess it still works though since few actually look into the backgrounds of people like Musk.

For real. I was just looking for an "Oh the drama!" meme to post but meh why bother. Rich people drama seems to entertain the sheep while they're being looted and they seem to enjoy it.

Actually, most of the deal is backed by loans, with Musk's Tesla stock as collateral. Musk isn't paying much out-of-pocket according to the reported deal terms. Plus, Twitter is 82% institutionally owned by Vanguard, Blackrock, etc (94% of float) so the money goes to the usual suspects, which they will use to buy up more houses in your neighborhood.

Re-quoted for truth. This site has come along way since 2007. Sadly RPF seems mostly onboard in believing the fake magic show provided by the elites wholly own propaganda arms as well as their nationally known pundits-podcasters, their friends and the chorus from countless useful idiots that believe it all.

Before anyone says that is snobbish again, well, I have been a useful idiot as well in my life including here. No one is immune to it from time to time.
 
Re-quoted for truth. This site has come along way since 2007. Sadly RPF seems mostly onboard in believing the fake magic show provided by the elites wholly own propaganda arms as well as their nationally known pundits-podcasters, their friends and the chorus from countless useful idiots that believe it all.

Before anyone says that is snobbish again, well, I have been a useful idiot as well in my life including here. No one is immune to it from time to time.

Maybe we don't really believe it. Maybe we're just trying to get in, and get a slice, and dip back out before it all falls down.

Maybe it's like a card game, you know?

You can say the game is rigged. You can throw a fit. Flip the card table over. Swear on your life you'll never be back. You've got it figured out and you won't be a party to it.

But same time next weekend, they're playing cards again. With or without you. What actually makes it worse is that the card game involves all of us whether we want it to or not (whether we think it does or not). [Even the agorists aren't safe, sorry guys]

Maybe a few others join you in boycotting card night, but it's never enough to stop it from continuing. Not even close.

Then one day someone goes back to the game and says, 'you know what, hell with it! I might actually win.' They probably won't. It's very likely they won't. But they might. Their odds of winning are still higher than the guys who flipped over the card table and left, who aren't even playing at all (so they think). —So are their odds of losing but, they don't care anymore. They've been losing anyway. They're literally losing so much that they won't know the difference.

Are they really 'duped' if they go into it not expecting much? Isn't that what really makes all the difference?

I think you and devil (and probably others) seem to think this is just a lapse in judgement, and it is—*if people take it too seriously. And I guess it gives you the opportunity to run around admonishing everyone for their transgressions. I'm out of feathers, or I'd give you one for your cap.

But things have changed since 2007. At least for me, I don't see much benefit in wasting around with all this empirical knowledge about the inner-workings of the machine, ruminating into some dusty corner for all my thought's echos to hear.

It simply no longer becomes important for me to know what they're up to. I no longer need to know the details of who deals with who behind closed doors, because I approach it with the standard assumption that it is probably not what it seems, and no amount of further analyzation is going to reveal any true surprises. (and there again, even if it was revealed, what exactly would you have me do with this knowledge? Most people don't seem to care. And if I brought it here to RPF, I can guarantee there would be someone who flipped it around and deconstructed it in some attempt to enlighten me that I've been swindled and bamboozled, and it's actually the opposite of what I interpreted . . . and we're back to square one.)

But trying to get what I can get, when I can get it, while I can get it, I don't think meets the threshold of useful idiotry. That actually seems pretty smart at this point.
 
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