Elon Musk buys Twitter for $44 billion

[ClaytonB]

Elon Musk Bends the Knee to the Anti-Defamation League and the Woke Mob on Censorship

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/elon-...mation-league-and-the-woke-mob-on-censorship/

It's possible that Musk will make Twitter 1000x worse than it was before. He has the means and I don't think he has any substantial moral foundation. That said, this particular Tweet is exactly the kind of thing that I would do if I were as wealthy as Musk and just purchased Twitter. I would find the opponents who have the most power to torpedo the platform and I would make them my best-friends. Time will eventually tell what game he's playing. For the moment, it's hard to determine exactly what his agenda is. Trolling libtards is definitely one of the things he likes doing and that's always fun to watch. Just can't let it become a distraction from his actual moves/choices.

 

[ClaytonB]

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

How the fuck do you cure world hunger with 6 billion $ ?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Elon Musk Defends Trump-Hating Pro-Censorship Demagogue Leading ‘Safety and Integrity’ at Twitter

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/elon-...ogue-leading-safety-and-integrity-at-twitter/

Apparently, the entire basis for this claim that Musk has "defended" Yoel Roth amounts to nothing more than this particular tweet:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587291215887826944

I'm not seeing any "defense" of Roth here - certainly not for any of Roth's inflammatory political demagoguery.

All Musk said is that Roth is the most accurate source for "what's [currently[ happening with trust & safety at Twitter".

Given that Roth is the current head of that department at Twitter, this doesn't seem particularly controversial.

It also doesn't mean that Musk necessarily approves of what is currently happening (or has previously happened).

In fact, Musk has explicitly criticized the decision to block New York Post articles about Hunter Biden's laptop - a decision made by Roth.

FTA:

In addition, Roth was responsible for leading the censorship charge against the credible Hunter Biden laptop story, using disinformation circulated by federal deep state spooks as an excuse to suppress information that could have been damaging to the Democrat Party’s chances to win the 2020 presidential election.

“Yoel Roth, the head of Twitter’s Site Integrity Team, cited the information from U.S. intelligence officials to justify Twitter’s decision to block access to a series of New York Post articles published in October detailing emails found on Biden’s laptop,” a report from the Washington Free Beacon stated.

Musk is hardly even mentioned in the article: once in the first paragraph to complain that he hasn't (yet) fired Roth, once in the second paragraph to make the accusation and repeat part of what he said in his tweet about Roth (see above), and once in the final sentence to complain about him "standing by" Roth. Other than that, the entire article is nothing but a catalog of Roth's "deranged, anti-Trump posts".

FTR, I think Musk should fire the guy, too. I certainly would. But Musk is in charge now, not me - and if Musk thinks Roth is willing to toe Musk's line in order to keep his job, then that's his decision to make. Musk never said he was going to fellate the pro-MAGA/Trump crowd by firing anyone and everyone who displeases them. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Elon Musk Bends the Knee to the Anti-Defamation League and the Woke Mob on Censorship

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/elon-...mation-league-and-the-woke-mob-on-censorship/

This one isn't much better than their previous article (see post #524 above).

It's basically just a brief claim that Musk said the people he met with "made him see the light on why censorship is good for Twitter" (followed by a repetition of the complaints from the previous article).

But he didn't say any such thing. He said he talked to them about how Twitter will do X, Y, and Z - not that he would do them however those people told him to do them (i.e., there is no evidence here that he "bent the knee" to anyone).

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587668703834955778

For additional context, here are the tweets following the one above:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587669814188953601

IOW: He isn't doing anything he didn't say he was going to do (or said he wasn't going to do) all along.

Musk is not a conservative, let alone a pro-MAGA/Trumper.

As far as I can tell, he's an enthusiastic but wishy-washy "centrist" (for lack of a better term).

The only thing I'm certain of is that he is going to do plenty more things that are going to outrage a lot of people (among both conservatives and progressives - and, of course, libertarians) - and Twitter is nevertheless still apt to end up better off for it than it was before.

FTA:

People who thought Musk, a transhumanist Baphomet enthusiast, was going to save free speech by taking over Twitter are in for a rude awakening.

"People who thought Musk [...] was going to save free speech by taking over Twitter" have their heads up their asses.

People really need to get this through their skulls: No one is coming to save us. Not Musk. Not Trump. No one.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Elon Musk Taps Jussie Smollett Hoaxer For Twitter Censorship Advice

https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/0...mollett-hoaxer-for-twitter-censorship-advice/

This one is MUCH better than those other two articles (see posts #524 and #525 above). It doesn't just lob click-baiting gratuitous potshots.

For example, (unlike #524), this one actually manages to actually provide some actual evidence of Musk "defending" Yoel Roth:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586902012402221057

(The obvious rejoinder to Musk here is that while "we all" may indeed have made some "questionable tweets", "we all" are not also "Head of Safety & Integrity at Twitter". The guy should be fired, if only for the sake of appearances.)

 

[Swordsmyth]

Musk Begins His Twitter Revamp With 50% Layoffs

https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2022/11/04/musk-begins-his-twitter-revamp-with-50-layoffs/

 

[jct74]

 

[ClaytonB]

 

[Occam's Banana]

Musk is not a conservative, let alone a pro-MAGA/Trumper.

As far as I can tell, he's an enthusiastic but wishy-washy "centrist" (for lack of a better term).

The only thing I'm certain of is that he is going to do plenty more things that are going to outrage a lot of people (among both conservatives and progressives - and, of course, libertarians) - and Twitter is nevertheless still apt to end up better off for it than it was before.

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1588626744994828289

https://twitter.com/ShannonRSingh/status/1588591603622772736

https://twitter.com/rdassaly/status/1588526469059223552

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1588597837105094657

 

[Swordsmyth]

Twitter Sued Over Layoffs

https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2022/11/05/twitter-sued-over-layoffs/

 

[Swordsmyth]

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Like it isn't over until the fat lady sings, it isn't over until the rope runs taunt and the bodies swing.

All this twitter talk is reminding me of how bad it was. I do think these people more than any other site were responsible for the adoption of speech codes like pronoun absurdities, and the black lives matter organized rioting (a lot of people on the conference that left twitter were black lives matter activists).

If they are rewritting history, and not admitting the past, there won't be any correction in the future. Musk's 44 billion is doomed.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

??? blimp

 

[ClaytonB]

Like it isn't over until the fat lady sings, it isn't over until the rope runs taunt and the bodies swing.

All this twitter talk is reminding me of how bad it was. I do think these people more than any other site were responsible for the adoption of speech codes like pronoun absurdities, and the black lives matter organized rioting (a lot of people on the conference that left twitter were black lives matter activists).

If they are rewritting history, and not admitting the past, there won't be any correction in the future. Musk's 44 billion is doomed.

To be blunt, I don't understand all the doom&gloom about Musk's acquisition, from either side of the "political spectrum". As to the Left, the fact that Musk bought it already proves that they have been defeated. When Musk made his initial offer, they freaked out and even tried to get the WH involved from a NatSec standpoint to stop/investigate Musk. That alone tells you everything you need to know about what was really going on inside of Twitter. And anyone who thinks that the three-letter agencies left behind even one crumb of data or even one fingerprint from their previous operations is in denial about what was really going on there, and who was really running it. Musk has sealed the campuses (not sure how long, but at least a day or two)... what do you think that is really about? No ordinary business ever needs to "seal" its offices. The only reason they would need to "seal" the offices is that they need to sweep the meeting rooms for bugs, reinstall verified OS images on the servers from bare metal, physically inspect the integrity of the Ethernet cables, change out the firewalls, and so on. And why would they need to do that, if Twitter was just a normal company doing normal business that just happened to also be highly politically charged? The acquisition was so heavily politicized because Twitter was practically the arm of a three-letter-agency and Musk's acquisition was a shutdown of whatever they were doing inside of Twitter -- fait accompli...

 

[ClaytonB]

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[SpiritOf1776_J4]

To be blunt, I don't understand all the doom&gloom about Musk's acquisition, from either side of the "political spectrum". ]...

Personally, I thought "Musk's 44 billion is doomed." was pretty funny myself, after all the doomer comments everywhere the last two years.

No, I don't care if Musk loses his 44 billion, it's his to lose - why would I. It also tongue in cheek rather points out the unlikelihood he is going to let that happen. If Musk's 44 billion is all we have to worry about, we are out of the problem zone.

If twitter fails, something else will take its place. I already said I thought it was copied on another thread, and something so much better could exist.

Help, Musk's 44 billion is dooommed.

 

[Swordsmyth]

He didn't vote for Biden so "they" revoked his N word permit.

Ye Suspended From Twitter For Seven Days For Saying N-Word
https://www.infowars.com/posts/exclusive-ye-suspended-from-twitter-for-seven-days-for-saying-n-word/

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1589120135318863873

 

[acptulsa]

The problem isn't that people have to pay for their checkmarks. The problem is they're now affordable. They're too cheap by a factor of about 1:7500.

The Bronx bartender doesn't want you to have one.