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It seems that way to the people who are fighting against it by unwittingly embracing it.
Elon Musk buys Twitter for $44 billion
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It seems that way to the people who are fighting against it by unwittingly embracing it.
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Our hope is not in whistle-blowing and finger-pointing. Salvation cannot be obtained in this way and those who keep urging us to believe it's the only way this world can be fixed are, whether knowingly or not, participating in the very evil that is preventing the world from healing.
There is such a thing as a free-for-all hellscape. I've never frequented the dark web, not because I have any legal or moral objection to it, but because fully-unmoderated platforms are, just as Elon put it... hellscapes. Have you ever tried posting on 4Chan or similar boards? It's the literal definition of a waste-of-time. Sure, some people have absolutely zero life and persist in the madness for reasons known only to them. But anyone within a hundred miles of being capable of basic social interactions prefers content moderation, whether on Twitter or anywhere else. Free speech means the government can't interfere with citizens publicly expressing their views (including through sneaky methods, such as biasing Twitter content/moderation), but it doesn't mean zero-content-moderation. If that's what you want, the dark web is the literal free-for-all you're looking for. Nobody's stopping you from starting your own Dark Web Tw@tter where you can spew any sort of verbal filth you want...
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Whoa, there!
Please try to be a little more gentle with your transitions from lecturing others about "listening to [their] favorite controlled opposition frauds" to citing corporate-media stories (such as from Axios) that you think support your preferred narrative.
You're gonna end up giving people a case of severe whiplash!
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So good people that open their mouths about the wrong doing of elites and the evil acts they commit against others should be quiet because that does not allow us to heal and if we do we lose salvation effectively going to hell. Are you fucking kidding me or have I misunderstood what you are saying here?
So here is another, he is has come around, and we should trust the plan. You are going full blown trust Elon Musk mode. This reminds of the years since this forum started of people saying this one or that one had come around. Every single time it turned out the defenders got burned. Here we go again, with this blind faith in these elites.
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(a) I don't trust anyone in this place besides Jesus. NO ONE
(b) I said nothing about hell. The point is that the devil's network of evil is fueled by accusations -- the name "Satan" literally means "Accuser". So, no, accusations and "exposure" in evil human courts, arrests by evil human police, etc. is not going to solve anything. If it could solve anything, it would have done so centuries ago. What is needed is a real change in people's hearts.
(c) My understanding of Elon Musk's business strategy is that he is a consummate opportunist. If he spots a profit-opportunity, he takes it. Most of the biggest profit-opportunities are created by political agendas, because the decision-makers behind those agendas do not bear the costs/risks of their agenda. Necessarily, this creates opportunities for sufficiently well-funded capitalists. Every one of Musk's businesses is of this nature. Tesla wins no matter what. Either it becomes profitable outright, or it gets propped up with free subsidies from the government (or maybe both). Musk profits either way. And so on and so forth.
(d) There's no need to guess about what will happen to Twitter, Elon has fully explained what he will do once he's in charge.
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Sorry if I hit a little too close to home about your friends. You know allot more than you say here in this forum but I understand you won't say more since you make a living off getting your material exposed on a national level by them and would not want to burn those bridges. Besides, as someone who knows what it is like to piss them off, I am sure you do not want to go through what I went through by speaking forbidden truths.
So you are about as credible as Axios and in this case Axios happens to be correct. The MSM sometimes does identify the issues at hand correctly. No one says you or these people or controlled opposition do not correctly identify the problems that exist. It is all about their intentions which leads to deceitful actions or in-action when they have the power to take action.
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Good people must speak out against their evil otherwise one will not be changing what is in people's hearts. You stay quiet, evil will grow in numbers.
To put it another way, one should not have blind faith in his word to follow through in what he stated.
I think it will probably end up like Trump's social media outlet. Normies censored while select people that can continue the curated agenda allowed free speech.
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Left normies with sploding heads bore me. What does that accomplish? Hell, even this guy doesn't care if his follower count is accurate. I certainly don't.
Or, to put it simply, controlled opposition. Want to kvetch about trannies? Fine. Want to explain the Fed? Cone of Silence.
Divisions will be amplified. But will hearts and minds be changed?
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Well, yes, we need to point out when something evil is happening, but we need to be specific (not hand-waving over the bullhorn, like AJ) and we need to trust God to see it through, rather than imagining that our red-faced ranting is what is going to save the world, because it never has and never will. The devil is perfectly happen to have us all up on bullhorns, red-faced ranting like a bunch of Alex Jones's so he can point his propaganda-news cameras at us and make fools of us. Spiritual warfare is real warfare; this is not an abstraction or a metaphor.
Elon is a pretty predictable businessman -- predictability is good for business and he knows that. It's possible he might throw a curveball, I don't "believe in" Elon Musk. But I doubt he will do that, because it doesn't benefit him in any way.
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I appreciate your discretion. Thanks!
Alright, wait ... so ... I am "as credible as Axios" ... and "Axios happens to be correct" ... so that would mean ... hmmmmmm
IOW: When "they" are NOT correct about "the issues at hand", then that just proves their nefarious "intentions" and "deceitful actions or in-action". But when "they" ARE correct about "the issues at hand", then that ALSO proves their nefarious "intentions" and "deceitful actions or in-action".
This is a perfect illustration of the essential vacuity of "controlled opposition" narratives.
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It's not about this guy alone, obviously. The point is "consensus building" or "movement building". People are more likely to believe Z is good if all their neighbors believe Z is good. Or bad. Twitter is, as Musk has stated, the new modern "public square". Like it or not, that is what it is. Twitter in the hands of whatever shadowy agency has been running it until now could only reflect the consensus-opinions that served the globalist/Marxist agenda. Freeing Twitter from control by shadowy forces won't give you an automatic Red Wave, or something, but it will take a real weapon out of the hands of the shadow-network. Death by a thousand papercuts may not be as glorious as halving the enemy with a katana, but it's still death.
Will it be a cone of silence though? The Mises Institute is the single most powerful anti-Fed force in existence... here's their Twitter feed. You're proposing that Musk's going to shut it down? Why? How does he benefit from that??
Will bookmark this and try to remember to come back to it next year. I don't think your prediction is going to age well...
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And yet, this account already exists:
No, I'm not. If it isn't already shut down, it certainly won't be going forward. That would merely call attention to it.
Which, I notice, is something "conservative" "businessman" Musk has never once done, to the best of my knowledge.
What prediction? That the divisions will be amplified? Fine. Since they already are by all this hoopla, that suits me.
So, Elon Musk undoes some of the higher-profile things that Twitter did, and restores people's faith in it. Then it shows a tad more restraint, perhaps, because it doesn't matter. Will Trump return? No. He has his own platform to promote. So, other than the possibility of appealing to the herd instinct of certain malleable users, what will change? A great deal? Precious little? It remains to be seen. The only fearless prediction I have for you is this: Shills will still be present and accounted for.
The government hand feeds him far too much. He won't bite it.
This isn't about keeping either "side" permanently "trampled". The pendulum must appear to swing. This is about giving the two "sides" enough to fight about that people won't hold out for the things we really need. You know. Like peace and prosperity. So long as they can define the "sides", neither "side" will be about those.
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I wish I could understand the weird straitjacket that you feel compelled to think within. I don't have to believe that somebody has "come around" in order to believe that their actions are incidentally beneficial for freedom. I don't think that Musk is an ideological libertarian. He has described himself as a "free speech absolutist" but I highly doubt that's true. And there's nothing particularly conservative about his social, political or even economic views. This is all obvious and public record. Nevertheless, I reject the idea -- which seems to be popular on RPF -- that everyone above $X net worth is an inducted member of the Illuminati or whoever-it-is-that-rules-the-world.
They're already switching off their bot-nets and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of that. It's like the ending of They Live! where the main transmitter gets shut off -- the moment the transmissions stop, people will start asking "Why does the Emperor have no clothes?" The only way to stop that question is with a constant stream of propaganda. They are literally fighting gravity and Twitter was their single most powerful tool for consensus-building and brigading.
Yeah, I get it, you're black-pilled. Your choice. I choose hope. They lose, whether sooner or later. I prefer sooner, but I'll take later if that's what it has to be...
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My only point is, Razor's followers suddenly jumped but the Mises Institute's didn't. Not bad. Also not enough. You say I'm black-pilled, but I know as well as you do that they lose in the end. So I don't know where you get that.
This is the U.S. It used to get a new emperor every eight years, but they've stepped that up to every four. The new breed of clown-emperor so obviously has no clothes that the opposition know it right away, and even those loyal to his "side" figure it out within four years. Anyone who doesn't go along with this game is "black-pilled" and anyone who does is "white-pilled"? Whatever, dude. Both pills sound racist, and I'm bored with racism. Have fun.
The things I'm trying to teach, both sides need to hear, and both sides can hear. I just wish there was a little less ambient noise, but I know there won't be.
This is the U.S. It used to get a new emperor every eight years, but they've stepped that up to every four. The new breed of clown-emperor so obviously has no clothes that the opposition know it right away, and even those loyal to his "side" figure it out within four years. Anyone who doesn't go along with this game is "black-pilled" and anyone who does is "white-pilled"? Whatever, dude. Both pills sound racist, and I'm bored with racism. Have fun.
The things I'm trying to teach, both sides need to hear, and both sides can hear. I just wish there was a little less ambient noise, but I know there won't be.
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519073003933515776
Elon should have her walked out the door tomorrow.
Done.
Elon Musk FIRES top Twitter execs as he takes charge
Musk entered the San Francisco headquarters ahead of the $44 billion deal closing, and was faced with skeptical employees worried for their jobs and the company culture.
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-elon-musk-fires-top-twitter-execs-as-he-takes-charge
Libby Emmons (27 October 2022)
David Faber of CNBC reported Thursday night that Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal and CFO Ned Segal have left Twitter as Elon Musk officially takes over the company. A later report noted that these execs, along with Vijaya Gadde, had been fired by the new owner.
"CEO Parag Agrawal, chief financial officer Ned Segal, and Vijaya Gadde, head of legal policy, trust, and safety, were all fired, according to the people. Sean Edgett , the company’s general counsel, was also pushed out, one of the people said," the Washington Post reports.
The Thursday night firing indicates that Musk is taking the reigns quickly and forcefully, and will be closely involved in making decisions about content and management decisision.
"The three top Twitter executives were hastily shuttled from the building, the people said," according to the Washington Post.
Musk entered the San Francisco headquarters ahead of the $44 billion deal closing, and was faced with skeptical employees worried for their jobs and the company culture.
Musk was clear on Thursday in a letter to advertisers, saying "The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence."
"There is currently great danger that social media will splinter into far right wing and far left wing echo chambers that generate more hate and divide our society," Musk said.
"Twitter obviously cannot become a free-for-all hellscape, where anything can be said with no consequences," he said.
When Musk's buy of the platform was announced in April, Gadde cried during that meeting, complaining about how the copmany could change under Musk's leadership. She was widely reported to have been instrumental in the suppression and censorship of the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop, which revealed a pattern of influence peddling and shady business deals by the Biden family.
"She got what she deserved," Human Events Daily's Jack Posobiec told Tim Pool on Tuesday night.
Segal made clear that even if Donald Trump were to run for president again in 2024, his Twitter account would not be restored. Trump was banned from the platform after the riot at the Capital on January 6, 2021.
Agrawal, who has said in the past that Twitter was "not bound by the first amendment," took over for Twitter founder Jack Dorsey in November 2021. This was after the platform had suppressed and censored reporting from the New York Post on Hunter Biden's laptop, which Dorsey later had to apologize for and admit was done in error.
"Our role," Agrawal said of Twitter in 2020, "is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation."
"The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed," Agrawal said.
"One of the changes today that we see is speech is easy on the internet. Most people can speak. Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard. The scarce commodity today is attention. There's a lot of content out there. A lot of tweets out there, not all of it gets attention, some subset of it gets attention.
"And so increasingly our role is moving towards how we recommend content and that sort of, is, is, a struggle that we're working through in terms of how we make sure these recommendation systems that we're building, how we direct people's attention is leading to a healthy public conversation that is most participatory."
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Timcast IRL - Elon Musk CLOSES TWITTER DEAL, ORDERS CODE REVIEW w/Alex Bruesewitz & Jack Posobiec
https://odysee.com/@TimcastIRL:8/timcast-irl-elon-musk-closes-twitter:2
https://odysee.com/@TimcastIRL:8/timcast-irl-elon-musk-closes-twitter:2
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