a liberal that goes online and argues or canvases is one thing, my Obama voting buddy asked me on marathon monday to get him a hat like mine...an RP hat I was rocking. That's constant quoting an yapping to someone who never watches political crap TV, a regular hard working joe...those are the libs I mean, and I got at least 7 now that are going to vote in the primaries for RP. Off topic, having a sweet time sipping on a bushmills on the rocks with my 2 week old on my lap while my wife gets some much needed sleep chillin on "the forums"...first thing I check when I pick up my phone a dozen times a day....
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You might have good points, but if so, why don't you just tell the truth instead of stating outright lies?
That's nowhere near the main reason liberals support public education. Most conservatives don't believe the schools should teach evolution and still support compulsory education.
That's nowhere near the main reason liberals support public education. Most conservatives don't believe the schools should teach evolution and still support compulsory education.
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Which outright "lies" are you referring to?
I would say...by ratings numbers even, that the liberals that put obama in power are more like my buddy, and not "statists" that are unreachable. MOST people will listen to common sense and vote fpr RP, they are NOT rachel maddow viewers...I live amongst them in MA...they are not liberals that even know what it is, they are casual viewers of the news who Pass there time more close to home...not necessarily a bad thing....
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I disagree.
There is a thriving Christian homeschool movement that is very politically active and engaged with fighting the state-indoctrinators at every turn in this statist country.
There is no leftist home school movement. The left is in lockstep with the evolutionary statist mindset that says we must socialize children to become wards of the State. Evolution is the religious foundation of Statism. The Biblical Christianity of the founding generation (that stressed the Biblical ideas of liberty, property rights, and sound money), was diametrically opposed to statism.
The reason more people on the Right don't support tearing down the state-education monopoly is that they are statists who do not apply Biblical principles to society anymore.
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You have a wonderful imagination.
Statism, worship of power existed even before Darwin. Evolution is nowhere near the main reason why liberals support compulsory education.
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A good point is education...I rail all the time about "blanket national education" and how more localized, region based or home schooling is way more practical and no one ever disagrees, they are as passionate as anyone about localized laws and education...ALL Obama voters. Again, they agree, they just don't know....not because they are ignorant, but have yet to "rediscover liberty"....we are not trying to change minds here, just trying to make them realize that they actually agree with us and not to fall for the left/right bullshit...
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Sure it did. And it should be pointed out that the pagan societies of the middle east, extending up to Greece and Rome, were tyrannical, statist empires where the idea of liberty was no where to be found.
The idea of Liberty stemed from the Reformation. The idea that Kings were NOT the divine link to the gods (and therefore not divinely authoritative) comes from Christianity and nothing else.
Evolution is just another religious outworking from the idea that men can become gods. Its not really that different from the ancient pagan statist societies.
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U will say there is no "leftist home schooling" movent but complain that private schools are liberal I'm sure....what the free market wants right? Until people get over how "stupid" the other side is there will be no liberty. Liberals are not dumb idiot retards, they simply are putting there trust in the wrong people...convince them otherwise, instead of being a champion over them...
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Nah. I say "putting your trust" in any earthly institution is the beginning of our problems.
Imho, the main problem with liberals is that they have the wrong view of economics (many conservatives do too). Economic theory is the sticking point. They just can't get their head around a voluntary society with free markets in everything, including money.
Do you support a voluntary society with free markets?
I mean...we have the fiscal part with conservatives...supposedly...and the social part with democrats, why try and grab entirely from republicans?....dems really just don't know, and with the debt now, they are primmed to get flipped, especially if we champion the end of war on drugs etc....
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Let it out man!
And the big point is they really don't know it would fucking HELP them....almost need to throw bones, RP has tried the no taxes on tips, even no taxes on under 40k earned in exchange to bringing troops home....I think those are big money makers if the media picks up on them in 2012. NEED to show that it isn't Republicans equals rich people...shame they don't know how beneficial his policies would be for middle class...
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From what I have learned...very much so. But I am young on the theories, but can make a mean argument with my surrounding peers. Seriously a believer and have yet to completely form a good base yet. Just seems the more I think about it the more it makes sense. Have u seen "Commanding Heights"..was a doc I watched when still way lib but was a first peek into how private was way more efficient than gov kinda. Money Masters followed, then Alvin Tofler...all this after a mean streak in M. Moore and the like shit books. Hahaha.....but I will say, the socialist Chomsky did lead me to RP...if not for him I never would have loved RP's NeoConned speach, so I guess some good comes from socialism...but yes, I am 100 percent in free market camp now.
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