Doug Wead: The Difference between Rand Paul and Ron Paul

[presence]

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I miss the liberty movement, I was never ashamed to be a part of it.

 

[TaftFan]

Stop capitalizing libertarian!

 

[orenbus]

Stop capitalizing libertarian!

^ this

 

[Sola_Fide]

That was bad bad bad...

 

[Brett85]

Well, this is the first comment on Doug's post, which kind of shows you how this kind of "watered down view" helps Rand politically and why he's doing it.

Delighted to know Rand is not in favor of marijuana legalization. I am convinced that we would be in danger of serious national decline if we allow another industry that facilitates addiction. Thanks, Doug for parsing the differences between these two fine men.

 

[BuddyRey]

You realize the Doug is talking to the Republican vote?

None of us here would vote for Reagan, so it's clearly not for US. Do you really think hes trying to convince Liberatrians?

Would you feel similarly comfortable supporting a libertarian who, running as a Democrat, felt the need to court his party's voters by having his advisors write puff pieces entertaining the base's addle-brained superstitions vis a vis gun laws, education, and carbon taxes? We are "practical libertarians" after all.

 

[Brett85]

Would you feel similarly comfortable supporting a libertarian who, running as a Democrat, felt the need to court his party's voters by having his advisors write puff pieces entertaining the base's addle-brained superstitions vis a vis gun laws, education, and carbon taxes? We are "practical libertarians" after all.

Good point. I think it's just different since Rand is Ron's son, and we know what Ron believes, that Rand grew up listening to Ron and has campaigned for Ron in all of his runs for President.

 

[ghengisconrad]

Would you feel similarly comfortable supporting a libertarian who, running as a Democrat, felt the need to court his party's voters by having his advisors write puff pieces entertaining the base's addle-brained superstitions vis a vis gun laws, education, and carbon taxes?

Yes. I would.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Would you feel similarly comfortable supporting a libertarian who, running as a Democrat, felt the need to court his party's voters by having his advisors write puff pieces entertaining the base's addle-brained superstitions vis a vis gun laws, education, and carbon taxes? We are "practical libertarians" after all.

Good point.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

in other news....ric flair just turned on sting, and kicked him out of the 4 horsemen.

 

[Smitty]

next,..

 

[philipped]

Delighted to know Rand is not in favor of marijuana legalization. I am convinced that we would be in danger of serious national decline if we allow another industry that facilitates addiction. Thanks, Doug for parsing the differences between these two fine men.

Something is seriously up with people if this is how people feel about Marijuana legalization. Maybe RPF can help me find the weed junkies who are committing prostitution to inject more marijuanas in their veins.

 

[Brett85]

Something is seriously up with people if this is how people feel about Marijuana legalization.

Yeah, it is. But that kind of attitude probably still represents the majority of Republican voters.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Yeah, it is. But that kind of attitude probably still represents the majority of Republican voters.

That's part of it. But the other part of it is the millions of voters who love freedom and are against this police state (me included, who is a Christian who is against drugs) who can grow the party and bring weight to his position.

 

[Saint Vitus]

Guys guys, chill.

How did you expect him to explain Rand's deviations?

"O, well, he's really a hardcore libertarian like his Dad, he's just lying to fool boobus."

That's obviously the truth of it, but one cannot say that in public.

He's not a hardcore libertarian like his dad, and he's not lying to fool voters. You have no proof that he is lying or misleading voters on his real beliefs.

 

[orenbus]

in other news....ric flair just turned on sting, and kicked him out of the 4 horsemen.

 

[Millennial Conservatarian]

Yeah, it is. But that kind of attitude probably still represents the majority of Republican voters.

Represents the majority of Republican voters who actually vote on primary day? Most likely. But the GOP is now polling as basically 50/50 on Weed legalization. Problem is the young Republicans who support legalization are like us and are so sick of the GOP and it's BS that they won't come out for Republicans

 

[Brett85]

He's not a hardcore libertarian like his dad, and he's not lying to fool voters. You have no proof that he is lying or misleading voters on his real beliefs.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

He's not a hardcore libertarian like his dad, and he's not lying to fool voters. You have no proof that he is lying or misleading voters on his real beliefs.

There is never any "proof" of anyone's real motives.

Ron Paul could have been a KBG agent for all you know. For all I know, you could be a KGB agent.



Point is, we only ever know other people's motives only through intuition (contra proof), and mine is that Rand is identical to Ron (except possibly on a few minor foreign policy issues, where I think there may be some genuine disagreement). Believe what you like..

 

[CaptUSA]

I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that.

Probably the best thing to do.

Listen, if you didn't like that article, it's because it wasn't written for you.

The rest of you guys need to remember exactly what it is we're trying to accomplish here. Rand's team could certainly throw us red meat, but it is much more effective when it is thrown to the GOP base.