Doug Wead: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Should Receive Medal of Freedom

[anaconda]

Except this was no statement or referendum on the war on drugs or civil liberties. This was a political prosecution.

Will Trump order IRS audits for the judge involved?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Will Trump order IRS audits for the judge involved?

Obama would.

 

[AuH20]

Racially profiling Latinos? Boo hoo. So sad. They have it so tough these days in Modern America. More subversive propaganda from the criminals in D.C. who would throw my ass in prison instantaneously if they ever saw my toys. I'm pretty sure my so-called constitutional rights would be trampled in a millisecond and I'm a freaking citizen of the country!

 

[Swordsmyth]

Facts don't matter to either side of the Arpaio pardon debate

The conviction of former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for criminal contempt is being serially misrepresented. The misrepresentations are material to the question of whether President Donald Trump should have pardoned Arpaio.
Arpaio’s criminal conviction is routinely, in fact almost invariably, described in one of two ways. Either that he continued to engage in racial profiling despite a court order to stop. Or that he continued with immigration sweeps contrary to a court order to abandon them.
Both descriptions are inaccurate and misleading.
He was ordered not to enforce federal law

In the underlying civil case, federal Judge G. Murray Snow did find that Arpaio had unconstitutionally used race in making traffic stops in an effort to find illegal immigrants. In fact, it was the central finding in the civil case.
Snow’s remedial orders, however, went far beyond simply forbidding the use of race in initial traffic stops. He ordered Arpaio to get out of the immigration enforcement business altogether. Even with a legal stop, Arpaio was to either charge people with a state crime or let them go. No detaining them or turning them over to federal officials for immigration violations.
It was this edict to get out of the immigration business altogether that federal Judge Susan Bolton found Arpaio in criminal contempt for violating.

However, Bolton’s decision does not include a finding that the sheriff’s office continued to illegally use race in initial stops, or any other legal problem with the initial stops. It was what the sheriff’s office did after the stop – turn people over to the feds for immigration violations without charging them with state crimes – that Bolton found in criminal contempt of Snow’s civil orders.


Federal law explicitly authorizes local law enforcement to communicate with federal officials about the immigration status of those they encounter. State law requires local law enforcement to follow up on reasonable suspicion of illegal presence when practical to do so.
So, arguably, Snow’s order prohibited Arpaio from doing what federal law allows and state law mandates. When Trump said in Phoenix that Arpaio was convicted for doing his job, there’s a basis for that point of view.
But Arpaio doesn't deserve a pardon

Now, I don’t support a pardon for Arpaio. He was a lousy cop, a crummy administrator and a menace to the rule of law.
Singling out people based on their race for disproportionate law enforcement scrutiny, as Arpaio unquestionably did with his immigration sweeps, violates the fundamental founding principles of our country.
Before that, Arpaio trampled all over procedural rights and protocols in pursuit of his nutty conspiracy theory, hatched with former County Attorney Andrew Thomas, involving the Board of Supervisors, its staff, and some judges.
And even if Snow’s order was an overreach, Arpaio’s duty was to obey it while appealing it. Arpaio’s career ending with a criminal conviction is fitting.
None of these distinctions and nuances likely entered into Trump’s decision to pardon Arpaio. Arpaio is an important ally and symbol on one of Trump’s signature issues, illegal immigration. The facts don’t matter to him.
By serially misrepresenting what Arpaio was found in criminal contempt for doing, opponents of a pardon have demonstrated that facts don’t matter to them either.

More at: http://www.azcentral.com/story/opini...ter/603064001/​

 

[anaconda]

Obama would.

Bill Clinton definitely would have.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Aye

The mere fact that you are still on this website preaching globalism in the name of Ron Paul is not only rubbing people's noses in it, but is an affront to everything Ron Paul ever stood for.

/end rant

 

[LibertyEagle]

Actually the sun doesn't "come up" at all. It's the earth that moves around the sun. Or are you a flat earther now?

But back to the truth, something you can't handle. It was Trump and his supporters that ended Rand Paul's campaign and by extension thwarted Ron Paul. I have yet to see you call them out for it.

Oh bullshit, Drake. Rand ended himself. If he had wanted to ruin his campaign, he couldn't have done it better.

 

[Ender]

The mere fact that you are still on this website preaching globalism in the name of Ron Paul is not only rubbing people's noses in it, but is an affront to everything Ron Paul ever stood for.

/end rant

Back to your one-pony argument- and it was YOU who was an ardent Trump supporter- so don't even go off on calling others "an affront to everything Ron Paul ever stood for".

 

[donnay]

Whether any of you like or dislike Arpaio, he was tried in a kangaroo court and that is why he should be pardoned and why liberty-loving people ought to stand up for this as well.

The Bundy's are going through the same thing. In the last case, at least the Bundy's had a jury trial, Arpaio asked for one as was refused.

 

[Ender]

Whether any of you like or dislike Arpaio, he was tried in a kangaroo court and that is why he should be pardoned and why liberty-loving people ought to stand up for this as well.

The Bundy's are going through the same thing. In the last cast, at least the Bundy's had a jury trial, Arpaio asked for one as was refused.

From [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION]'s article above:

Now, I don’t support a pardon for Arpaio. He was a lousy cop, a crummy administrator and a menace to the rule of law.
Singling out people based on their race for disproportionate law enforcement scrutiny, as Arpaio unquestionably did with his immigration sweeps, violates the fundamental founding principles of our country.
Before that, Arpaio trampled all over procedural rights and protocols in pursuit of his nutty conspiracy theory, hatched with former County Attorney Andrew Thomas, involving the Board of Supervisors, its staff, and some judges.
And even if Snow’s order was an overreach, Arpaio’s duty was to obey it while appealing it. Arpaio’s career ending with a criminal conviction is fitting.

 

[shakey1]

Why this guy gets a break while Snowden has to seek asylum in another country.

 

[donnay]

Why this guy gets a break while Snowden has to seek asylum in another country.

Because I believe Trump is isolated from the truth. He has been fed a bunch of lies and believes Snowden is a traitor.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Because I believe Trump is isolated from the truth. He has been fed a bunch of lies and believes Snowden is a traitor.

It's a shame that there isn't like an endless trove of truth available in everyone's pocket.

If there was, of course, then they'd not have any excuses for their ignorance.

 

[Ender]

It's a shame that there isn't like an endless trove of truth available in everyone's pocket.

If there was, of course, then they'd not have any excuses for their ignorance.

 

[pcosmar]

/end rant

Doubts,,

 

[pcosmar]

Because I believe Trump is isolated from the truth.

Oh please,,

This clown was running with the Clintons before he started trolling Republicans.
The only thing you can expect is a show.

The agenda continues. And the Police State will grow.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Back to your one-pony argument- and it was YOU who was an ardent Trump supporter- so don't even go off on calling others "an affront to everything Ron Paul ever stood for".

Yes, I voted for him and would do it again. Next?

 

[Ender]

Yes, I voted for him and would do it again. Next?

Of course you would.

To quote [MENTION=982]pcosmar[/MENTION]:

Oh please,

This clown was running with the Clintons before he started trolling Republicans.
The only thing you can expect is a show.

The agenda continues. And the Police State will grow.

How Libertarian of you.

 

[juleswin]

Of course you would.

To quote [MENTION=982]pcosmar[/MENTION]:



How Libertarian of you.

Some people are tired of losing and would sooner drop their principles to join a winning team. This is the rational most of the reluctant Trump supporters on this site are working with. That or they hate Hillary so much that they rather give their vote to her best m8 Trump.

It might be hard for people like me or you to fully understand but that is their perspective

 

[donnay]

Some people are tired of losing and would sooner drop their principles to join a winning team. This is the rational most of the reluctant Trump supporters on this site are working with. That or they hate Hillary so much that they rather give their vote to her best m8 Trump.

It might be hard for people like me or you to fully understand but that is their perspective

I am all for winning liberty back. Hey, it took a long time to take it away and I am sure, getting it back, isn't going to happen overnight.

Here are some things that I like seeing:

1. President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion
2. Trump is enforcing regulatory reform.
3. Trump is reducing regulations on manufacturers.
4. Trump has exit the US from the TPP.
5. Trump has taken the US out of the phony climate change agenda.
6. Trump has placed a hiring freeze on federal employees.
7. Trump has cut the funding for sanctuary cities.
8. Trump has approved pipelines to advance here in the US.

I know some here like to blame Trump for EVERYTHING-- like the media and democrats do, but I will give credit where credit is due.

Some of the things I do not like is sending more troops to Afghanistan. Sessions going after states that have already agreed to cannabis. Appointing McMasters as National Security Advisor and Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State. However, no one is perfect, I am a realist, not a purist.