Don’t be mad at me because I am sovereign.

rayzer

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Don’t be mad at me because I am sovereign.

Don’t be mad at me because I am sovereign.

Don’t be mad at me because I am sovereign. I do not recognize your authority. Your attempt at authority over me is false. I do not recognize false authority. There is only one authority. That is the natural law of God. I choose to use the word God because I think it is an appropriate way to express my understanding. Please do not jump to conclusions about what the word means to me.

Man did not create gravity. That is a natural law of God. If you choose not to recognize the natural authority of gravity as you fall from a high place, I suggest that you are missing something important. The flesh on our bodies is considered to be food to a great percentage of the life on this planet. That is the natural law of God. If you choose not to recognize the natural authority of a lion as it eats your flesh, I suggest that you are missing something important.

On the other hand, if you do chose to recognize the authority of another man or woman or group of men or women as they attempt to coerce you into the recognition of some non-natural law that they have fabricated, I suggest again, that you are missing something important.

If you are missing some of those important things, please don’t be mad at me about it! I am just a simple, sovereign man.

Nature or Nurture?

Whether it was nature or nurture, I cannot tell you. But from the youngest age I can remember, I had no recognition of authority; Not my parents, not the school, not my employer, and when I was self-employed, certainly not the state. Maybe I have bent slightly a few times as a sign of obedience to authority in an effort to most wisely choose the real battles in which I will engage. But my will has never been broken. I have never had that deep, life-changing experience that I have witnessed so many go through; the experience of “learning my lesson”; the lesson of obedience. Now that I have reached a level of wisdom from which I can recognize my journey, I know that I never will learn that lesson; because I have learned the true lesson.

There is no longer any need for emotions to become involved as they have throughout my life when I unknowingly entered into direct conflict with false authority. I do not recognize false authority, and I will not submit to it. I will say that to you, and I will say that to anyone who attempts to force me into recognition of some false authority. Treat me as you see fit, but do not expect my acknowledgement of, or obedience to, your false authorities.

Is it my problem or yours?

That answer is easy. If we come into conflict over your recognition of false authority, and my lack of recognition of it, the problem lies with you, not me. Don’t expect me to bend. However, you should expect a loss of trust, and potential inability to communicate effectively about meaningful tasks.

Many people believe that life operates as a democracy; that since I, as a minority in my recognition of these seemingly simple concepts, am therefore wrong. I do not accept that. That, in itself, is a belief in the false authority of the majority. Whereas, the natural law of God does not require belief; it just is.

Playing the game vs. Recognition of False Authority

There is an important distinction between one who chooses to “play the game” and one who truly recognizes false authority. The understanding of this concept necessarily leads to the discussion of the non-aggression principle; that is, I am free to live my life as I see fit as long as I do not infringe on your ability to be free to live your life as you see fit. You see, the problem is that, often times, people that generally acknowledge the importance of that natural law of God, are tricked into recognition of authority based on their own natural human flaws.

Whether intentional or not, we all find ourselves coveting others from time to time. That is, wanting what they have. If we see them acting freely, we covet that freedom. If we feel that our freedom is unfairly restricted by the rules of the game we decide to play, this natural human flaw then sometimes leads us into convincing ourselves that another man or woman must play by those same rules! And where do these rules come from? That’s right, false authority.

In the end, playing a particular game by a certain set of rules, often tricks people into the recognition of authority. To simplify, playing by rules, as the simplest means to an end, combined with the natural human instinct to covet others freedom, leads us to justify the breaking of the non-aggression principle, which is a natural law of God.

There is no honor when there is recognition of false Authorities

How often do we see people use the complicated game playing / coveting logic to justify their actions, but then come into direct conflict with others because those others recognize a different authority then they do? How much of our life is therefore spent battling each other over what authorities we should recognize? How easily do those false authorities manipulate our expectations as they change the rules on a whim? How often do we see agreements made between individuals break down because they submit to a higher authority than that of their own personal honor to each other?

When the elite meet to lay out their plan for the world, they have no court to rely on to ensure that they follow through with their agreements. They are governed by no one and no thing. Yet strangely enough, while they obviously have a flawed sense of morality, they do, at least, have honor. Unlike us poor slaves, they recognize no authority. It is no wonder how they can look down upon us as lowly peasants; because they recognize no authority, and they can truly know honor.

The Natural Law of God- The only authority

Like the elite, I choose to not recognize false authority, and therefore, I can know honor. But unlike the elite I do recognize one authority; The Natural Law of God. Do not ask me to explain what that means. I hold these truths to be self evident…
 
Will saying this keep the cuffs off of you if some authority that you do not recognize decides to put them on you?
 
Will saying this keep the cuffs off of you if some authority that you do not recognize decides to put them on you?

Unfortunately, we all know the answer is no.

They have cuffed me before, they will likely cuff me again.

It is a matter of picking our battles always remembering the lessons of The Art of War. Only go to war when you know yourself, and know your enemy.

At least I can now say that I know myself! ;)
 
Bursting Bubbles

I understand the gist of what you're saying, but, unfortunately for you, you are not sovereign. You are subject to God and His natural, moral, civil, familial, and ecclesiastical laws. Therefore, you cannot claim to be sovereign in any sense of the word. You did not even have control over your own existence. You were born by the will of someone else. Just as no human being is autonomous, none is sovereign, either.
 
I understand the gist of what you're saying, but, unfortunately for you, you are not sovereign. You are subject to God and His natural, moral, civil, familial, and ecclesiastical laws. Therefore, you cannot claim to be sovereign in any sense of the word. You did not even have control over your own existence. You were born by the will of someone else. Just as no human being is autonomous, none is sovereign, either.

That seems like more of a debate over the definition of the word "sovereign". I think my inferred definition is pretty clearly in line with your point, don't you?

Or shall we debate the meaning of the word "is", also? hehe GOTTA LOVE SLICK WILLY!
 
Great post, OP!

I understand the gist of what you're saying, but, unfortunately for you, you are not sovereign. You are subject to God and His natural, moral, civil, familial, and ecclesiastical laws. Therefore, you cannot claim to be sovereign in any sense of the word. You did not even have control over your own existence. You were born by the will of someone else. Just as no human being is autonomous, none is sovereign, either.

You are only subject to God's laws if you believe in them. You are subject to man's laws regardless. You are free to ignore both and pay the appropriate consenquences on earth, or in the afterlife (if there is one).

Just because you were born of the will of someone else (and sometimes against their will) does not mean you do not have your own free will when you are of the age to recognize it and exercise it.
 
That was absolutley beautiful OP.

Theo, you need to get over yourself. Seriously. God forces obedience from no one. God is Himself subject to the same laws that He commands us to "obey". You can;t really break the commandments, you can only break yourself against them.

Which I feel is completely in accord with what Rayzer was saying in his OP. In other words you can no more ignore the laws of God than you can choose to ignore the laws of gravity. However, we are all sovereign as far as being able to act as if those laws were not in effect. We can chose to walk off a ten story building just as we can chose to commit adultery, steal, or worship false Gods.

We can choose our actions, we just don't get to chose the consequences.
 
Don’t be mad at me because I am sovereign.

Don’t be mad at me because I am sovereign. I do not recognize your authority. Your attempt at authority over me is false. I do not recognize false authority. There is only one authority. That is the natural law of God. I choose to use the word God because I think it is an appropriate way to express my understanding. Please do not jump to conclusions about what the word means to me.

In this world, no one is sovereign. Authority is created by force and even the act of defiance against that force requires action that the sovereign person would never require to take. You can wish for sovereignty, you can articulate what it means to be sovereign, but ultimately all those who call themselves sovereign are not.

Whether by force of another man or by force of an alternate part of nature, no man is an island and everything is a shade of gray.

In addition, one cannot be sovereign unless he has liberty and right now my friend, you (we) have very few remaining.

I appreciate your position though and I truly hope that we can all say the same down the road.
 
In this world, no one is sovereign. Authority is created by force and even the act of defiance against that force requires action that the sovereign person would never require to take. You can wish for sovereignty, you can articulate what it means to be sovereign, but ultimately all those who call themselves sovereign are not.

Whether by force of another man or by force of an alternate part of nature, no man is an island and everything is a shade of gray.

In addition, one cannot be sovereign unless he has liberty and right now my friend, you (we) have very few remaining.

I appreciate your position though and I truly hope that we can all say the same down the road.

Gee, I always thought the world is what we what made it.

Force may take my life, my liberty, or my property. But force can never take my sovereign status.

Unless I beleive that I am sovereign, and unless I stand to block a false authority who believes it has jurisdiction to take from me, and unless I am willing to remind that false authority of my sovereign status, how can I ever expect to be recognized as such?

Changing the world to recognize my status starts with the realization of my sovereignty. And while not required, it continues, optionally, with my proclaimation, as I am doing here.

Won't you join me? :)

"Those crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who actually do." -Ronald Reagan
 
Sovereignty for Sinners = Tyranny and Confusion

This whole idea that man is sovereign really fits into the hands of elitists, both nationally and globally. They, of course, believe they are sovereign over the masses, and therefore, they can tell them what to do and how to live. To them, they can control the media, the banks, the food supply, and everything else involving the affairs of men, according to their whims.

No one here, admittedly, would believe in that sort of sovereignty, though. Why not? If every man is sovereign, then what prevents the more wealthy and powerful from exerting their sovereignty over others? By their perceptions of sovereignty, they can "live for all the gusto they can get out of life," and by doing so, exploit the masses. Human aspirations and conditions of sovereignty always lead to "might makes right." Human history is riddled with such attempts of men to claim themselves sovereign over all things, only to end in the suffering of others and the destruction of themselves.

We as humans need to recognize our place in God's universe. God is supremely sovereign, and He tells us what we are in this universe. We cannot claim sovereignty in a world which we did not create. Granted, the State should not have sovereignty over every aspect of men. However, that does not warrant our self-proclamation that we can have free reign over whatever happens in this world. As the OP mentioned, we will always be subject to divine laws. So, human sovereignty is a myth, in my analysis.
 
I understand the gist of what you're saying, but, unfortunately for you, you are not sovereign. You are subject to God and His natural, moral, civil, familial, and ecclesiastical laws. Therefore, you cannot claim to be sovereign in any sense of the word. You did not even have control over your own existence. You were born by the will of someone else. Just as no human being is autonomous, none is sovereign, either.

sovereign
Main Entry: sov·er·eign
Variant(s): also sov·ran \ˈsä-v(ə-)rən, -vərn also ˈsə-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English soverain, from Anglo-French soverein, from soverein, adjective
Date: 13th century
1 a : one possessing or held to possess sovereignty b : one that exercises supreme authority within a limited sphere c : an acknowledged leader
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sovereign

I hereby declare myself as sovereign whether you like it or not. :)

I do not recognize your authority to define sovereign for me. :p

I do not recognize God as a him nor his laws as you state them to be. :eek:

I not only claim to be sovereign in every sense of the word, I am sovereign. :D
 
Those More "Sovereign" Than You

I hereby declare myself as sovereign whether you like it or not. :)

So do the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. ;)

I do not recognize your authority to define sovereign for me. :p

So do the Bushes and Clintons. ;)

I do not recognize God as a him nor his laws as you state them to be. :eek:

So did the Hitlers and Stalins. ;)

I not only claim to be sovereign in every sense of the word, I am sovereign. :D

So does Obama. ;)
 
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