Donald Trump reminded us why a Republican Party without libertarian values isn’t worth it

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Donald Trump reminded us why a Republican Party without libertarian values isn’t worth it

I used to think a big part of being a conservative meant bashing immigrants and minorities. Things I would today consider fear mongering.

At the time I would have said I was being “real.”

That’s how hateful minds work. They believe that all people—particularly other white people—see the same “truths” they do about immigrants and minorities and are just too scared to say so.

Everyone is just being “politically correct.”

I said, as a radio personality and writer, that Mexicans were “taking over” the country, all Muslims were a threat, anyone who cared about blacks or their concerns was “pandering.”

f the slander “cuck” existed a decade ago—the popular alt-right term used today to describe anyone who believes minorities aren’t the enemy—I would have used it.

Thankfully, I became a libertarian.

I wrote about this evolution at Politico in 2013 as it related to Ron Paul’s 2008 presidential campaign:

"Something else was happening to me around that time—as I listened to Paul, my worldview began to evolve. Paul was serious about border security, but unlike other Republicans, he didn’t seem angry or hateful. Libertarianism, after all, is based on the relationship between the state and the individual, often with little regard for culture or groups. I had always thought this was shortsighted, but I began to change my mind. Ron Paul blamed illegal immigration on government, not immigrants. “If we had a truly free-market economy, the illegal immigrants would not be the scapegoat,” Paul said at the third Republican debate in 2007."

“Not the scapegoat? Many conservatives, including me, had spent years scapegoating Hispanic immigrants themselves,” I wrote.

“Paul never went there. He attacked government, not people,” I said.

Thursday night, Donald Trump attacked people. He peddled the idea that an omnipotent government—his—would have the magical power to stop immigrants, Muslims and blacks from murdering us all.

Reason’s Peter Suderman had a reaction similar to mine, “Donald Trump’s speech accepting the Republican nomination was easily the most overt display of authoritarian fear-mongering I can remember seeing in American politics.”

“The entire speech was dark and dystopian, painting America as a dismal, dangerous place beset by violent outsiders,” Suderman observed. “In response to the nation’s problems, Trump had only one solution: Donald Trump, the strongman who would take America back, by force if necessary.”

Now if you asked Trump if fear mongering or peddling hate was his intent–I don’t think he’s a bigot but isn’t self-aware enough to understand the dark emotions he’s recklessly unleashing—he would likely scoff and accuse you of being politically correct.

To make such an accusation is to encourage Trump and his followers who actually are racists even more.

They love this.

This election wasn’t supposed to be this way. Or at least, I had hoped.

A year ago my presidential candidate was Rand Paul. I hoped he could win the nomination and recast the Republican Party in a libertarian-conservative mold similar to how Trump has transformed it into a vehicle for populism and nationalism.

A more libertarian GOP would have featured a less interventionist foreign policy; an economic agenda that prioritized free markets over government solutions; vigorous enforcement of the Constitution including and especially the constantly threatened 2nd and 4th amendments; a serious commitment to border security coupled with practical immigration reform; and cultivating a pro-life culture, among other things.

It also would have aggressively courted minorities and other groups Republicans have historically shutout. Libertarians would grow the party’s base. A more libertarian GOP would emphasize how big government is minorities’ enemy too, as Sen. Paul emphasized and continues to do.

Emphasizing individualism as a priority—individual rights, protections and basic dignity—is key to any American government worth having and any conservatism worthy of that name.

read the rest here:
http://rare.us/story/donald-trump-r...rty-without-libertarian-values-isnt-worth-it/
 
Good reading. I particularly found this part resonated:

Reason’s Peter Suderman had a reaction similar to mine, “Donald Trump’s speech accepting the Republican nomination was easily the most overt display of authoritarian fear-mongering I can remember seeing in American politics.”


“The entire speech was dark and dystopian, painting America as a dismal, dangerous place beset by violent outsiders,” Suderman observed. “In response to the nation’s problems, Trump had only one solution: Donald Trump, the strongman who would take America back, by force if necessary.”
 
Good reading. I particularly found this part resonated:

I consider it a pretty good litmus test; if you want to know who the authoritarians are, look for the ones who are gushing about the acceptance speech (not just giving a positive review, but above and beyond).
 
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Three leftists find some rag that is obviously anti Republican a good read. What a surprise.

Kind of ironic coming from someone whose hero (Trump) wants to execute his other hero (Snowden). That "rag" you call is RARE which is a libertarian leaning website and the writer, Jack Hunter, is one of the best libertarian writers you can find. Very hard to believe that you've been around here since 2007, because from what I can see you haven't learned much.
 
I preferred the version of Jack Hunter before he sold his soul to become a globalist cuck. Having "men" like him in the liberty movement is a cancer. Listening to guys like Hunter is how Rand took the base that his father built and shrunk it in to one of the most disappointing and embarrassing showings in the history of Presidential primaries.
 
I preferred the version of Jack Hunter before he sold his soul to become a globalist cuck. Having "men" like him in the liberty movement is a cancer. Listening to guys like Hunter is how Rand took the base that his father built and shrunk it in to one of the most disappointing and embarrassing showings in the history of Presidential primaries.

Not really. I thought Rand would get 5-10% before the election started and i am a huge Rand fan. He did a little worse. He was in the 2-4% range. He was a huge underdog to do as well as Ron which I posted a number of times even in 2014.

Ron Paul got 10% of the vote in the Republican Primary. He finished a distant 4th to Romney, Santorum and Gingrich in vote total despite staying second longest and being the only other person on the ballot in places like Virginia and raising a significant amount more than Gingrich and Santorum. Of that 10% only a third were libertarian or libertarian leaning. To complicate things this election had Bernie Sanders which was guaranteed to pull voters and Ted Cruz. Then unexpectedly Donald Trump and Ben Carson. Rand was likely to get almost all or Ron Paul's libertarian vote (3%) and only some of the remainder. He lost a little of the libertarian vote and got almost none of the remainder.

Ir Ron ran he would have very likely done better than Rand. But the most likely outcome would be in the 5-7% vs Rand 2-4%.
 
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His speech deserves much criticism. I don't know why he opened on so much of a downer. I'm less concerned with a slight increase in crime in certain areas than whatever Ghouliani and Christie have planned in response.
 
Kind of ironic coming from someone whose hero (Trump) wants to execute his other hero (Snowden). That "rag" you call is RARE which is a libertarian leaning website and the writer, Jack Hunter, is one of the best libertarian writers you can find. Very hard to believe that you've been around here since 2007, because from what I can see you haven't learned much.

You think I bothered to read it? All I needed was to see the name of OP. That was just a public service announcement. You need to be challenged on what you are doing.

As far as Jack Hunter I give you that he is not a liberal but his standing he been reduced considerably.
 
Jack Hunter has been trying to virtue signal his way back into relevance ever since he was thrown under the bus by Rand's campaign staff. He needs to understand that there's no market for what he's trying to sell.

If he had stayed true to his beliefs instead of trying to snivel his way back into the graces of the now defunct cuck world, he would be an interesting voice of the Alt-Right.

But he's demonstrated that he doesn't have the Right stuff.
 
Jack Hunter has been trying to virtue signal his way back into relevance ever since he was thrown under the bus by Rand's campaign staff. He needs to understand that there's no market for what he's trying to sell.

If he had stayed true to his beliefs instead of trying to snivel his way back into the graces of the now defunct cuck world, he would be an interesting voice of the Alt-Right.

But he's demonstrated that he doesn't have the Right stuff.

Does Jack Hunter have serious money problems? How do you go from where he was to spineless SJWer? It's baffling.
 
Does Jack Hunter have serious money problems? How do you go from where he was to spineless SJWer? It's baffling.

I don't know. But it doesn't matter. Basically, Jack Hunter apologized for who he is and what he believes. Now, he has no ideological home.
 
You know what, your incessant bashing of posters that speak of libertarian values and your nauseating promotion of an authoritarian on this site isn't even the worse thing about you. It's the wilful ignorance that really chaps my arse.

Where have I demonstrated willfull ignorance? Maybe you just don't know how to spot pragmatism? If a poster makes non stop posts denigrating a candidate those who like him will respond. If a poster was completely discredited and is allowed to continue to post. This site does not have resources to moderate every post. It needs people to step in and point out some one is a liberal. There is a lot of goodwill on this forum and if someone is unaware of what a poster is they will believe their lies.
 
Where have I demonstrated willfull ignorance? Maybe you just don't know how to spot pragmatism? If a poster makes non stop posts denigrating a candidate those who like him will respond. If a poster was completely discredited and is allowed to continue to post. This site does not have resources to moderate every post. It needs people to step in and point out some one is a liberal. There is a lot of goodwill on this forum and if someone is unaware of what a poster is they will believe their lies.

If a poster's only rebuttal is personal attacks, no one can take them seriously.
 
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