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OK while I completely disagree with socialists, it does seem that many of them have good intentions and truly believe it's necessary for taking care of the poor, the elderly, etc. I think most of them have just been misled and don't realize it does much more harm than good.

But a warmonger is another story. These people either have a complete lack of morals, or are just flat-out sadistic. I can tolerate someone like Donahue much more than someone like Santorum.
 
I was going to post an image of fallopian tubes, but they're kind of gross.
 
OK while I completely disagree with socialists, it does seem that many of them have good intentions and truly believe it's necessary for taking care of the poor, the elderly, etc. I think most of them have just been misled and don't realize it does much more harm than good.

The only part of that I object to, is having people do charity at the point of a gun.
 
The only part of that I object to, is having people do charity at the point of a gun.
Yes, there's nothing wrong with helping out the elderly and poor, as long as it is given freely by the people instead of taken by the government Robin Hood style and squandered. Most of their policies kill off economic prosperity and cause the problems to begin with. The answer is to foster the conditions where it is easier for people to take care of themselves.
 
Yes, there's nothing wrong with helping out the elderly and poor, as long as it is given freely by the people instead of taken by the government Robin Hood style and squandered. Most of their policies kill off economic prosperity and cause the problems to begin with. The answer is to foster the conditions where it is easier for people to take care of themselves.

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with giving money to anyone... if its yours to give.
 
I know I raised a few eyebrows when I wrote that I agree with both Ron Paul and Donahue with regard to universal healthcare. Sorry. I should have kept my mouth shut. Still I find a way to agree with Ron Paul's perspective and Donahue's on this issue. As my Canadian friend reiterated (thanks!) we had a window in our Canadian history where we made the socialist leap to provincially (state) serviced universal healthcare insurance (60 years ago?). At the time the Dental lobby was strong and resisted the process so we still pay them or get insurance plans. As such, I've watched the private market development in dentistry and it works (but it hurts). It keeps prices down overall and produces scientific innovation and cutting edge equipment. Ron Paul understands that with socialized medicine we must transition delicately into a free market model while protecting the weak and helpless where possible. The "Wal Mart" effect of buying big keeps healthcare cheap (as Donahue mentions) in Canada but innovation suffers - and ultimately its one huge insurance company. Its all very complex.

To be honest, psychologically, universal healthcare has been a blessing to have while I raised my children (though we had no health issues).
 
The only part of that I object to, is having people do charity at the point of a gun.

I agree 100%. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not defending socialism and I see it as not only harmful but also completely immoral because it involves theft. I'm just saying that many socialists never think of it this way and may just be uninformed or misguided. They may not realize they are being immoral, whereas you can't really say this about a warmonger. So I still think Donahue is a good guy even though I disagreed with him there at the end.
 
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I agree 100%. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not defending socialism and I see it is as not only harmful but also completely immoral because it involves theft. I'm just saying that many socialists never think of it this way and may just be uninformed or misguided. They may not realize they are being immoral, whereas you can't really say this about a warmonger. So I still think Donahue is a good guy even though I disagreed with him there at the end.

Not only does it involve theft, but it also keeps many people from giving to charity themselves. The bloody government takes so much money away from people, they find it difficult to make ends meet let alone give to charity. I know I would certainly give more to charity if the government wasn't stealing the money from me and giving it to their own charities.
 
Donahue: "We are dropping bombs on crowded cities at night where old people and children are sleeping and we're watching it on CNN. And, the only voice that's spoken up at all in this campaign about this is Ron Paul. Why are we so interventionist he wants to know... what are we doing with all these wars? How are we safer? These are very common sense observations and no other candidate can possibly speak those words. It would be, they believe, politically fatal. Think about that. You cant use an anti-war platform to get elected so maybe that explains why its so easy to go to war...."

But we should support the troops, especially the snipers. Otherwise, a punch in the face is deserved.
 
Not only does it involve theft, but it also keeps many people from giving to charity themselves. The bloody government takes so much money away from people, they find it difficult to make ends meet let alone give to charity. I know I would certainly give more to charity if the government wasn't stealing the money from me and giving it to their own charities.
Not only that but your charity would be more efficient. The wealth destroyed in the government transfer is incalculable, but the fact that wealth is destroyed is non negotiable.
 
Not only that but your charity would be more efficient. The wealth destroyed in the government transfer is incalculable, but the fact that wealth is destroyed is non negotiable.

So true. The government takes the money, uses it to employ government workers who then dole out some of it to those they feel need it.

Cut out the middleman and more of it gets where is should.
 
But we should support the troops, especially the snipers. Otherwise, a punch in the face is deserved.
not supporting them would suggest you are planning to use some kind of dirty bomb or something on them. The punch in the face is only a preemptive strike. You can't really blame the sniper for protecting himself from an admitted terrorist.
 
not supporting them would suggest you are planning to use some kind of dirty bomb or something on them. The punch in the face is only a preemptive strike. You can't really blame the sniper for protecting himself from an admitted terrorist.

Good points.
 
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