Do you want Jesse Benton involved in any capacity in Rand Paul 2016?

[jjdoyle]

Omg, well dude I'll give you my userid and password, only to you, so you can get behind that $10 pay wall. You know, it does cost a bit to try and counter the Media by starting your own professional news channel - how many other former Presidential Candidates are doing so? Please man, I barely even watch it as it's nothing new he hasn't expressed ad hominem in the public domain for his entire life. And the important clips are on youtube and I don't see them being taken down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLjcNNU5YM

Over 100,000 views, please man, if you think Paul is motivated by money and that is why he has taken on what he has then, dude, I misjudged your intuition. You're lashing out from some adolescent complex. Who is it that you DO support? Bob Barr? Cruz? Anyone? or do you only criticize?

Yeah, Ventura, not RP. Haha! Original point, invalid. Probably like your intuition. Or, you're maybe just speaking out of adolescent ignorance.
And I don't want your password, I don't need to hear it. It's the general GOP voters, Democrat voters, they NEED to hear the stuff. Those are the ones that WE could share it. The ones that have been programmed/brainwashed for years, or their entire lives. The ones Rand needs to win in 2016.

And I do believe RP is motivated by money, as many are. It was the subscription newsletters in the 80s/90s. A paywall channel now. It might be about the message, but for some, the message has money attached to it. That is a simple fact.
His campaign denied a few supporters refund requests in September 2012. So what, he could sit on close to a million cash-on-hand, paying two workers (one his daughter or daughter-in-law) paychecks for doing basically nothing campaign related (maybe they're still working on that Mitt Romney only TV attack ad!?)? Still.

Those are facts. Facts and truth are not lashing out. You can question my intuition all day long, but it is backed up by facts/history/actions/non-actions. Actions speak louder than words. Hiding the "message" behind a paywall. Not having basic 2012 campaign contact information, like a phone number/email address, to contact the campaign now. Denying refund requests. After helping Mitt Romney win the Republican nomination. That's sick IMO.

And asking who I support is a great way to try and not address the actual facts and points already brought up, and spin the topic totally elsewhere, because you apparently don't like my legitimate criticisms. But if you must know, I can actually answer that question. Because I'm not like some around here when asked questions, will avoid them and post /yourlogicalfallacy links.

I like Greg Brannon, and will be picking up signs soon to help him in my area. I think Mike Lee is running a good campaign right now against Graham. So, right now, I'm supporting those two. I even did some initial things for Bevin a few months back.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Seriously dude? His daughter is a CPA, so yeah, he paid her peanuts to do the accounting. Sounds like a smart move to me. As far as Ron's pay channel goes, those guys approached Ron and it's a good thing they did. Our movement has not been known for their expertise in conducting quality video shows. I'm thinking back to all the shaking cameras, the audio that just sucked, etc. At least these guys know what they are doing.

I just love how you think it's your damn business to give away someone else's work and that sounds like exactly what you think should be done.

All you have done here since day one is tear down.

 

[LibertyEagle]

@JJDoyle is not talking out of his ass. And maybe it had nothing to do with Ron, but Ron Paul 2012 campaign staff. Take a bit of time and have a listen to this, then you will hear for yourself.

If you think Ron Paul doesn't take an active role in his own interests, you are (mod edit). Far too often around here, if some don't like something that happened, they blame everyone around Ron and not him directly. Belly up. Ron is not an idiot and he is not a wallflower, either. Is it that hard to hold Ron accountable for something you don't agree with? Is that it? Ron has never been one to be led around by the nose. Give the man some credit.

 

[jjdoyle]

Seriously dude? His daughter is a CPA, so yeah, he paid her peanuts to do the accounting. Sounds like a smart move to me. As far as Ron's pay channel goes, those guys approached Ron and it's a good thing they did. Our movement has not been known for their expertise in conducting quality video shows. I'm thinking back to all the shaking cameras, the audio that just sucked, etc. At least these guys know what they are doing.

I just love how you think it's your damn business to give away someone else's work and that sounds like exactly what you think should be done.

All you have done here since day one is tear down.

I don't know that she is a CPA, and I did a search for it. Maybe you have a link to that? I do believe that Ron Paul's brother, Wayne, is a CPA. And has a CPA/financial type firm, and that was listed as receiving payments during the campaign. But not Lori. Again, maybe you have a link that she is a CPA?

But, I don't know why they are still paying two staffers ($5,000 since January this year) in 2014, and still paying a law firm in Virginia ($46,000), when the campaign was effectively over in February 2012. When they agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, and instead helped him win the nomination by wasting $100K attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan. And yet they couldn't/wouldn't give refunds to supporters when asked in September 2012?

Why is Ron Paul 2012 STILL paying a law firm so much money, into 2014? Sure, they have funds to pay a law firm into 2014, when each quarter they have "no outstanding debts" listed, yet didn't have the funds to attack Mitt Romney, or at least run positive ads in Virginia letting GOP voters know they were serious about winning. LOL.

Talk about deluded thinking. Glad I can't breath your digital air, because you are still spewing digital diarrhea.

Oh, and since you're such a campaign expert (spreading disinfo left/right/center) like Collins, maybe you can tell us who this group of investors are that helped launch Ron Paul Channel? I have looked for that information, but didn't find it in my initial searches. I haven't looked up the California tax information on it yet, but that might help shed some light.

And for your ignorance, putting your ORIGINAL videos on YouTube does not mean "giving away". People make livings off of having their videos just on YouTube, and having ads running on them. If RP 2012 made so much supposed progress, Ron Paul should easily be able to make a living off of YouTube and having his videos shared, should he not? Maybe the only progress that was made, was a bigger donation list...
I just thought we were trying to grow the movement, not simply preach to the choir.

And I'm clearly not the one that has cursed at users, told them to get out, leave, while doing nothing but trying to defend a lying campaign and failing to do so. And if you missed it, you are in the minority in this thread about whether a certain staffer from Ron Paul 2012 should be hired by Rand. Not me.

 

[LibertyEagle]

You are nothing but a troll. More than one have set you straight on a variety of your claims. You simply post them again.

If Bryan allows you to stay on here much longer, it will be clear to me that he has no interest in this website being viable in the future. You should have been banned long ago.

 

[jjdoyle]

You are nothing but a troll.

I'll be happy to say I'm a truth troll. Truth will grow the movement.

And once again, you failed to address a single point.

Can you provide me a link to where Lori is a CPA?

*added after she edited her original no response comment:
Ummm, clearly there are more that agree with me about the campaign, than disagree (only you, Collins, Rocco). I can count on one hand the people that disagree about the campaign, excluding people like Jesse Benton and other RP 2012 staffers (see: people taking paychecks from the supporters).

 

[devil21]

Isn't it time to let this thread die?

 

[jjdoyle]

Isn't it time to let this thread die?

It's not 2016 yet, and Rand still hasn't made the decision.

 

[Arklatex]

those who seek controversy will find it. Yet those who seek clarification will find it as well. They must, however, be willing to overlook controversy, recognizing that it is a defense against truth in the form of a maneuver

 

[jjdoyle]

those who seek controversy will find it. Yet those who seek clarification will find it as well. They must, however, be willing to overlook controversy, recognizing that it is a defense against truth in the form of a maneuver

Exactly right. You might have to keep asking the right questions, sometimes repeatedly, before the person/people understand them. Changing the methods those question(s) are asked might help as well.

Even when people call you slow, deluded, juvenile, etc., and want you to be banned for seeking the truth, you shouldn't stop seeking it.

 

[kathy88]

Just read this entire thread again. I deserve a prize.

 

[pcosmar]

Just read this entire thread again. I deserve a prize.

I didn't.
I saw it and had not commented on it.

 

[jjdoyle]

Just read this entire thread again. I deserve a prize.

Learn anything new (saw a grammatical error in the image I shared, need to update it!)?

I always wait on actual responses from some, and rarely get them, as you can see above in this thread. Instead, it's the usual name-calling and personal attacks.

Can somebody please provide a link showing that Lori is a CPA, as LibertyEagle claimed?

 

[Aratus]

i think the safest and wisest thing is to have all with the understanding that for Senator Rand Paul to both run for the presidency
and for the senate in 2016 we need Jesse Benton to be on speaking terms with Kentucky's two senators. If Doctor Rand does come
close to the nomination in 2016 or even secures it directly, we know that this has to sit well with Mitch McConnell, because if the
two senators from KY are alienated from each other and not communicating, things become an obstacle course. I assume that the
senior senator hired Jesse Benton because of his innate abilities and knowledge. I do think someone else should be the campaign's
manager, but any "favorite son" or "favorite daughter" effort in the KY delegation at the RNC needs Mitch to be front row & center...

 

[Aratus]

i am assuming as the television cameras pan over the hall in '16 at
the next RNC we all will be able to spot Jesse Benton quite often!!!

 

[Aratus]

heck, if he's the guy in the KY delegation who
gets to tell the Chair how they all voted, i am
likely not going to be in a state of shock at all.
i expect him to have a role that makes way more
sense as the fall of 2016 looms. this is my vote!!!

 

[thoughtomator]

I vote we give Jesse the job of distracting Candy Crowley

 

[Anti Federalist]

Drive by bump

 

[Anti Federalist]

What has Kokesh done apart from look like a fool?

Keep himself out of jail?

 

[Anti Federalist]

AF, are you being InSiNcErE again?

Shame on you, you InSiNcErE devil, you!

Ah ha ha hah...where did that guy go?