Do you think Russia is in the right, or wrong?

[Fox McCloud]

Ok, I think all of us would agree we shouldn't get involved in the current Russo-Georgian conflict/War....but I do have a question for you guys--do you think what Russia is doing is justified, or not?

I'm not sure yet, but I'm leaning towards "it was justified"....but again, not sure.

 

[yongrel]

I need an option for "I have no friggin' clue."

 

[Standing Like A Rock]

its justified. as far as I am concerned, any foreign country can do whatever the hell it wants for whatever reason it wants to do and we are in no place to tell them otherwise.

and what about an option for "Immoral but justified"

EDIT: OMFG A BARACK OBAMA AD AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE!! OMFG!!!

 

[ChickenHawk]

its justified. as far as I am concerned, any foreign country can do whatever the hell it wants for whatever reason it wants to do and we are in no place to tell them otherwise.

So, in your opinion, does this only apply to foreign countries? Russia can do whatever they want bo the US can't? Or is the US free to invade other countries as well?

Back on topic. I don't know enough to say for sure but I think that the Russians are probably out of line on this one.

 

[Monolithic]

completely justified

unlike iraq and the us, the ossetians are actually greeting the russians as liberators

 

[IChooseLiberty]

I'd love to hear the opinions from those that think it was unjustified on the part of Russia.... but something tells me we won't see many of those posts.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

I'd love to hear the opinions from those that think it was unjustified on the part of Russia.... but something tells me we won't see many of those posts.

I voted "unjustified" but am not really informed enough on the issue to make a decision. It didn't sound like Georgia was doing much more then slightly provoking the Russians... but then again I Didn't get the full story, as my main focus was on how this will affect US.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I'd love to hear the opinions from those that think it was unjustified on the part of Russia.... but something tells me we won't see many of those posts.

not around here but, but venture out to some other forums.

Even on yahoo answers, you get alot of ignorant people spewing hate towards russians.

It's really not cool... it's hard to sift through this propagandha but, there's no way i want to side with the genocidal Georgians.

Russia is only responding exactly the way they said they would, but perhaps a little less fierce so far. (they threatened nukes!)

I do not trust russia, and i do not agree with their tactics... but i do believe that they dont play with words, and they will not stand for the NWO's bullshit games.

The Russians involvement is going to change everything i think...

 

[Fox McCloud]

Russia is only responding exactly the way they said they would, but perhaps a little less fierce so far. (they threatened nukes!)

Keep in mind Russia has to play the "international" game a little bit to keep some popularity. Also, how do you think the world would react if all of a sudden Georgia's Capital was wiped off the map with a nuclear weapon--it'd create a situation where-in various nations would instantly align with or against Russia...probably within days.

That said, who knows what the Russians will do--they're a lot smarter than us, that's for sure.

 

[Alex Libman]

It pains me to have to side with Russia on this one, but they're completely justified.

South Ossetia wants to join the North as part of Russia. Georgia is bullying them to remain a part of their country, in spite of a very popular independence referendum. I guess people only have a right to self-determination if it serves NATO's interests...


Here's more food for thought:

NATO's yearly military expenditures: $850 billion. Russia's: $45 billion (3% of world's share). As percent of GDP: Russia is 4.58% (about same as USA), Georgia is 15.90% - that's a mind-bending figure given that Russia's per-capita GDP is 3x higher! Georgia's listed defense chunk of the budget is second only to North Korea! And in reality it's much higher, since they're buying some stuff at deep discount and that data is a year old - it went up by like 30x over the past few years!

According to the 2008 Forbes tax misery index: If I make a million euros in Russia, I get to keep 870,000 - and that's with a lot of people to raise from poverty. If I make the same million Euros in Denmark, I keep 381,400.

So.... who are the blood-sucking commies again?

 

[IChooseLiberty]

I voted "unjustified" but am not really informed enough on the issue to make a decision. It didn't sound like Georgia was doing much more then slightly provoking the Russians... but then again I Didn't get the full story, as my main focus was on how this will affect US.

Funny how the MSM works. It will give you that feeling without the facts to back it up.

 

[James Gragg]

I have been researching this conflict as best as I can since this story first broke on Friday. The Russians are, in my opinion, completely justified. The Georgians have been being trained and armed by the United States and the west. The two "seperatests' proviences" are ethnic Russians (to include passports as well) and have been under governmental controls from Moscow for well over 200 years. We urged the Georgians, either directly or indirectly "to take back control" over "their territority" and the end result was that the Gerogian army made a genicidol attack on South Osseita and the Russian peackeepers there. Which caused the Russian defensive "responce." There are US "Military advisors" in Georgia, 1000 US Marines still belived to be there, 1000 Isrealli camandos actively involved in combat with Russian troops and the US is transporting Georgian troops back from Iraq to Georgia. If Russia and Georgia are, at "war"(as Georgian officials state) then those transport opperations makes our aircraft (and personal) "justified military targets" by Russia. The Georgian army almost leveled the South Ossetian capitol and killed 1400 "people" (women and children) in its opening attack. Saturday night, the Georgian army was targeting refugee convoys heading north out of the combat zone, as well as targeting clearly marked wounded transports.

 

[Alex Libman]

The bull the western media is pushing goes a very long way in validating many other conspiracy theories in my mind.

Cognitive dissidence can only go so far...

 

[RickyJ]

I don't know if Russia is justified here or not. If Georgia did indeed invade South Ossetia and torch refugees then Russia is justified, if they didn't then they are not justified. Who knows what the real truth here is? I tend not to believe superpowers so I would say Russia is probably not justified, but I would not fight a war over something I was not sure about. I think we should stay out of it until we know more about what really happened.

 

[Kalifornia]

There needs to be an option for 'just another bullshit Russian training exercise'.

This too will pass.

 

[Conza88]

I was ignorant on this... and leant unjustified to begin with.

I'm still pretty ignorant; but having been explained to me by a mate; Russia is justified..

But it's just so damn hard saying those words...

 

[qh4dotcom]

I said unjustified because Russia is targeting other parts of Georgia where they shouldn't be.

Their business is to help South Ossetians...not to bomb and kill Georgian civilians in other parts of Georgia.

By the way President Saakashvili's economic policies and very similar to Ron Paul's.

 

[RickyJ]

I said unjustified because Russia is targeting other parts of Georgia where they shouldn't be.

Their business is to help South Ossetians...not to bomb and kill Georgian civilians in other parts of Georgia.

By the way President Saakashvili's economic policies and very similar to Ron Paul's.

That's a good point, but do we really know that they are targeting civilians? The first casualty of any war is the truth.

 

[IChooseLiberty]

I said unjustified because Russia is targeting other parts of Georgia where they shouldn't be.

Their business is to help South Ossetians...not to bomb and kill Georgian civilians in other parts of Georgia.

By the way President Saakashvili's economic policies and very similar to Ron Paul's.

It does seem as though the Russians are taking it a bit further as I am reading reports that they are now invading Georgia proper. I'm guessing they intend to do a US-style regime change and get rid of the anti-russian pro-US Georgian gov't.

 

[IChooseLiberty]

That's a good point, but do we really know that they are targeting civilians? The first casualty of any war is the truth.

Both sides have been saying civilians have been targeted since everything began.

The difference is that I've heard actual stories of the Georgian military attacking schools, hospitals, and passanger cars.

I haven't heard any stories of the Russians killing civilians on purpose while the Georgian gov't insists that they are.

It would be nice to get some news from the Georgian people. Haven't heard a whole lot from them in regard to treatment by the Russians.