Do you support Arizona's right to crack down on illegal immigration?

[peacepotpaul]

Slippery Slope arguments can be valid sometimes.

People in 1913 would say you are making a slipperty slope arguement warning about the Federal Reserve.

Just like someone warning others back then of the Federal Reserve. I'll warn those who think it's not a danger. It will be. And it WILL extend and grant more power to the police state.

if it takes 90 years for the slippery slope to come true, is it really worth worrying about for your own lifetime?

 

[ARealConservative]

The Bill of Rights originally only restricted the the federal government.

In 1961 (Mapp v. Ohio) The Supreme Court ruled for the first time that the Fourth Amendment applied to states as well. (by way of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment)

So let's not pretend the founders intended on the Federal Government having the power to overrule the wishes of a state. that took hundreds of years to reconstruct.

 

[Danke]

I think his point is, if you don't have papers, you must be guilty or suspectible of other crimes than simply lack of identification.

if you admit "I don't have papers", there's no point in him looking for them. Since unlike drugs or illegal weapons, having them is your ticket OUT not IN to imprisonment.

Having "government papers" is usually the nexus that lands people IN prison.

Not answering questions, but asking and not accepting their presentments is what can keep you OUT.

 

[phill4paul]

if it takes 90 years for the slippery slope to come true, is it really worth worrying about for your own lifetime?

Only if you are selfish, have no children, or just don't give a fuck.