Do you support amnesty for tax protesters?

[Neil Desmond]

Stealing is still stealing whether the victim hides his/her property in a closet or leaves it on the lawn for all to see.

I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise (at least I'm not). All I'm saying is that if you sign a document stating that you agree to pay taxes, that your income is X, but you're providing false information about what the amount X is, then that does not apply.

 

[lx43]

At the absolute minimum, for a tax to be justified it needs to go towards something that is authorized in the constitution.

I prefere to say that taxes only to pay for police, courts, and defense are justified, which is even less than the constitution authorizes. But I'm willing to start with "In the constitution."

Since our taxes pay for all kinds of unconstitutional crap, government is the thief for doing it. So I would absolutely vote "Not guilty" if I were on a jury for someone being charged with tax evasion.

If Rand is elected President I hope his first act is to pardon any tax protestors and give everyone who wanted out of the system a chance to go. That is what I would do if elected President. I'd at the very least use that as a means to gain support among the public for those that wanted out of paying taxes and scare the establishment and Congress into giving me significant cuts in spending/regulation.

 

[fr33]

Good people break bad laws. No victim, no crime.

 

[opal]

YEARS ago, I had a friend that got served time at a federal prison.. convicted felon. When he got out he opened a mechanic shop and just refused to file taxes. There is no taxation without representation - he was stripped of voting rights and between his accountant and attorney never got to the courtroom over it.

 

[Carson]

 

[erowe1]

Bump.

With all the anti-amnesty talk in other threads I just have trouble believing these results so far.

 

[mport1]

How about amnesty for both?

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Very encouraged by the results here, albeit with a small sample size.

 

[BuddyRey]

Taxation is theft, theft is immoral, and those who fight against immorality deserve praise, not penalization.

 

[fr33]

I'm pretty sure this poll has established what the OP set out to.

And that is; we have many hypocrites amongst us.

Breaking unconstitutional immigration laws = Not OK

Breaking constitutional tax laws = OK

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Free Ed and Elaine Brown!

That is all.

AMEN

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise (at least I'm not). All I'm saying is that if you sign a document stating that you agree to pay taxes, that your income is X, but you're providing false information about what the amount X is, then that does not apply.

Even when you are doing so to avoid having all your living taken from you through confiscation after "conviction" and imprisonment as you've seen done to other friends or acquaintences (Irwin Schiff, Ed and Elaine and countless others)?

Even when you know that if you don't "file" they will take away your license to "practice medicine" or "law" or "fill-in-the-blank"?

Even though the uncounted pages of laws and regulations written in lawyer-speak cannot possibly be decoded even by those who have written them?

Yeah, after over 20 years of NOT paying the income tax, we were forced into doing so in 2004 in order to keep what we had and in order to have our business. We COULD have taken the "right" position that we are entitled to our fruits and that those who would steal it from us are wrong, but then we would be likely taken into custody and possibly killed (oops, he slipped!!).

I "sign" that stinking lying piece of paper because if I don't bad things will happen to me. If I could find 5% of the "people" would stand up with me and NOT pay, we all could watch them collapse in a powerless heap...

 

[TheTexan]

Theft is illegal, evading theft is not..

 

[polomertz]

I chose the never file path. I also chose not to have a bank account, a cellphone or even a mailing address. They can find me but they'd have to work for it and won't get much in return. I try to live free. I've found life is simpler that way and I'm much happier for it. I wouldn't want a "pardon" because wouldn't that imply I was doing something wrong in the first place? I would prefer nullification of sorts and an apology. That being said, I wouldn't waste effort opposing such a thing.

 

[asurfaholic]

Tax protesters who have the balls to stand up and stop paying royalties to the king are Heroes in my book.

 

[erowe1]

I chose the never file path. I also chose not to have a bank account, a cellphone or even a mailing address. They can find me but they'd have to work for it and won't get much in return. I try to live free. I've found life is simpler that way and I'm much happier for it. I wouldn't want a "pardon" because wouldn't that imply I was doing something wrong in the first place? I would prefer nullification of sorts and an apology. That being said, I wouldn't waste effort opposing such a thing.

Interesting. I wouldn't want you to publicize stuff about yourself online, but do you have any advice about how to do that or recommended books about it or anything? And can it work with a family?

 

[polomertz]

Interesting. I wouldn't want you to publicize stuff about yourself online, but do you have any advice about how to do that or recommended books about it or anything? And can it work with a family?

I haven't read any books about it - mostly info from here. It's just a mindset I try to follow. As to a family, this may send me to jail so I've pretty much given up hope of finding a woman willing to take that same risk.