Do you still support Rand Paul?

[newyearsrevolution08]

Rand has his own voice and vote and can endorse whoever he chooses just as we too have that same liberty. I doubt any of us feel others have the right to trash us based off of our votes and endorsements right? Well if that is the case then why don't we be a little more liberty minded and allow others the ability to make their own decisions, whether we agree with them or not.

If it is an issue for you, take your vote somewhere else because that is YOUR LIBERTY to do so just as rand has. Was I happy about the endorsement? no but I am voting for Ron Paul for President here not rand, so it really is no concern to me currently or my vote.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Yes.

And I must admit seeing Hannity fawn over Rand warms me cockles -and then I throw up in my mouth a little... it's weird.

I know education is the favored way to go, but I also recognize the fact as many have said, folks just like being stupid and enslaved.

Hannity has libertarian leanings ya know?!

If it takes a Hannity messin' around with another behind his boyfriend Bush's back to get the zombies to graze in the liberty pasture then so be it.

That's my short take on it. There's a multitude of pros and cons to this issue -but attacking tyranny on multiple fronts with a bitch like Hannity droolin' over you could work.

As long as grassroots keeps on keeping on and growing I believe we'll be okay and liberty will prevail.

Let the Senator use the tools available to a Senator -let him deal with Hannity. *erp*... ugh, it just happenend again. Got a mint?

 

[whippoorwill]

And I, yours.

This endorsement means no more than Ron Paul's endorsement of Lamar Smith, or his blessing on the likes of Commie McKinney.

If Rand did not endorse the eventual Republican nominee, regardless of who he was, all of his legislation would be dead on arrival. Ron Paul never endorsed against a sitting Republican incumbent. Never. Regardless of whether the incumbent was a POS and a fantastic liberty-candidate was running against him. Because he was told that if he did, he would be kicked out of the GOP. Now that would have been a big help, eh?

Judge Rand by his votes and his legislation. Because that is where we will find out what he stands for.

Note: I love you guys, but I'm not willing to go to a gulag, because you want to bite off your nose to spite your face.

Romney is the guy that would/will send you to the Gulag!

You said "Ron Paul never endorsed against a sitting Republican incumbent. Never." McCain! Nuffsaid.

 

[nobody's_hero]

After my first inclination to be very upset about this, I'm much calmer than I was last week.

I like Rand, and I chose, "haven't decided yet", but I seriously doubt his strategy of being a 'team player' is going to work. Hell, it never has.

In a few years, after it is shown, once again, that the mainstream GOP has no interest in promoting the cause of liberty, Rand will be back. I'll do the mature thing and welcome him back, so we can pick up where we left off, which is to steam-roll the neocons out of the party, if by then, we even need to take over the Republican party at all (it may be extinct by then).

This seems to be one of those things where I have to wait for my "I told you so" moment; I'll do it calmly, instead of angrily.

 

[ProIndividual]

Ron voted for acts of war without an official declaration of Congress when he voted for "authorization for the use of force" against Afghanistan. Afghanistan never attacked us and intel was sketchy. He violated his oath to do this, it can be argued, and it led to a protracted war. Iran sanctions might prevent war who knows. Ron's actions however directly led to war.

So Ron and Rand are really no different in this regard, difference of degree not of kind.

Except in one case we were attacked, and the other is no threat to us. Slight difference.

 

[ProIndividual]

Rand Paul - addresses drones, non violent offenders, the fed, raw milk, and hemp legalization, all in a week, and people are saying he's not a true libertarian. Crazy.

I love how you say these issues outweigh acts of war. I also love how you quoted a post and didn't address anything in it, just spouted other issues where we agree with Rand. I'd trade all those issues for standing against murder. Sorry.

You can ad hominem me by calling me "crazy", but you ignored entirely the content of my post.

 

[No Free Beer]

YES

think about what he's done in the senate. look at how he has the establishment fooled. i disagree with his endorsement, rather the timing, but my God, what some of you have written to him on his fb page is disgusting.

oh, and one more thing:

Eff Alex Jones. He is dividing the liberty movement now.

Keep going. Go for delegates.

 

[IndianaPolitico]

YES

think about what he's done in the senate. look at how he has the establishment fooled. i disagree with his endorsement, rather the timing, but my God, what some of you have written to him on his fb page is disgusting.

oh, and one more thing:

Eff Alex Jones. He is dividing the liberty movement now.

Keep going. Go for delegates.

Alex Jones is going crazy, (Although some would say he always was...) He is now going after Jack Hunter's hair...

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Alex Jones is going crazy, (Although some would say he always was...) He is now going after Jack Hunter's hair...

Is that hyperbole, or is Jones literally mocking Hunter's hair?

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

Alex Jones is going crazy, (Although some would say he always was...) He is now going after Jack Hunter's hair...

Seriously? AJ needs to take a break. It is often challenging enough to take him seriously but when he's reduced himself to the level of schoolyard taunts.... oh boy.

 

[r3volution]

oh, and one more thing:

Eff Alex Jones. He is dividing the liberty movement now.

yep , a few of his people here have already left and made there own forum . and the ones that stayed are only here to spam for that forum and alex's site . if you get spam in your inbox for a site called "revolutionbox" report it to a mod .

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?380516-Forum-PM-Spam

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...p-at-Revolution-Box-yet&p=4492337#post4492337

 

[Shane Harris]

I was mad as hell when he endorsed Romney, mostly because he did it on Hannity. But after a few days, I've calmed down. I still strongly disagree with it, but his record is solid. As long as he continues to vote against future wars, the fed, and liberty in general, I'll file this under "agree to disagree." Especially since I doubt he'd have done it without speaking to his father first.

same. I cant watch/listen to that smug asshat for more than 3 seconds without wanting to punch him in the face.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

yep , a few of his people here have already left and made there own forum . and the ones that stayed are only here to spam for that forum and alex's site . if you get spam in your inbox for a site called "revolutionbox" report it to a mod .

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?380516-Forum-PM-Spam

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...p-at-Revolution-Box-yet&p=4492337#post4492337

Revolution Box struck me as more of a Rothbard Voluntaryist forum. If it's going to go the way of Alex Jones, that is disappointing.

 

[Rocco]

Good god, it was a 100-0 vote so really all Rand did was not speak up against a unanimous consent motion. Besides, the sanctions Rand voted for that passed on Iran hardly constitute an act of war. Do you even know what the sanctions did? My god, some of you take what Ron Paul says so literally that you're equating cutting off trade to the United States if that nation trades with Iran's central bank with murder. That's ridiculous and no rationale person would equate the two. When Dr Paul says it's an act of war he doesnt take this approach of complete literalism, he means it's a pretext to war and we inevitably go to war with those we impose sanctions on. Trying to equate it with murder is insanity.

I love how you say these issues outweigh acts of war. I also love how you quoted a post and didn't address anything in it, just spouted other issues where we agree with Rand. I'd trade all those issues for standing against murder. Sorry.

You can ad hominem me by calling me "crazy", but you ignored entirely the content of my post.

 

[Tod]

In my opinion he made a mistake in endorsing Romney, but there is comparatively little to object to in his voting record, so yes, I still support him. I tend to view him as more of a politician (with all the slimey-ness that entails) and his father as more of a statesman, based on the manner of speaking and this endorsement business.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Good god, it was a 100-0 vote so really all Rand did was not speak up against a unanimous consent motion. Besides, the sanctions Rand voted for that passed on Iran hardly constitute an act of war. Do you even know what the sanctions did? My god, some of you take what Ron Paul says so literally that you're equating cutting off trade to the United States if that nation trades with Iran's central bank with murder. That's ridiculous and no rationale person would equate the two. When Dr Paul says it's an act of war he doesnt take this approach of complete literalism, he means it's a pretext to war and we inevitably go to war with those we impose sanctions on. Trying to equate it with murder is insanity.

The Iran sanctions were the same placed on Iraq in the 1990s, which were credited with killing 500,000 civilians.

 

[misean]

Seriously? AJ needs to take a break. It is often challenging enough to take him seriously but when he's reduced himself to the level of schoolyard taunts.... oh boy.

I'm glad to see Rand Paul getting support here. Alex Jones can barely read and doesn't understand economics at all. Hopefully no one takes his schtick seriously.

 

[r3volution]

I'm glad to see Rand Paul getting support here. Alex Jones can barely read and doesn't understand economics at all. Hopefully no one takes his schtick seriously.

unfortunately there is a hand full here that hang on his every word and will attack anyone like rabid dogs that question him .

 

[RickyJ]

I voted no, even though I never supported him. I don't support someone just because they are related to someone I do support. I was hoping Rand would be like his dad. His vote for economic sanctions against Iran showed me that he is not like him.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Yes I do.

And we got a lot of trolls saying we shouldn't.