Do you see McCain as an American hero?

How do you see John McCain?

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The media and neocons lined up today to say "McCain was a POW for five years" so he's a war hero, end of discussion. So, what about Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was a POW for five years? Why are the details of Bergdahl's capture subject to critical scrutiny, while the details of McCain's capture not subject to critical scrutiny?
 
Anyone who serves in a combat role and does so without any misconduct, is a war hero, IMO.

I am appalled at some of McCain's pro-war positions (especially after all he went through and experienced in combat.) You would think he would align more with Ron Paul, but he didn't. In that respect, yes, I do agree that he's a dummy.
 
Peace&Freedom said:
The media and neocons lined up today to say "McCain was a POW for five years" so he's a war hero, end of discussion. So, what about Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was a POW for five years? Why are the details of Bergdahl's capture subject to critical scrutiny, while the details of McCain's capture not subject to critical scrutiny?
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I think the rules are pretty clear...

Serve the state: Hero
Fight the state: Terrorist/Traitor/Communist/etc
 
McCain is a authoritarian war criminal and needs to get arrested immediately.
 
Trump is turning on other respectable, well funded neoconservatives too:


Trump calls Lindsey Graham 'idiot'

Presidential hopeful Donald Trump persisted in his attacks on fellow Republicans on Tuesday, calling U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham an "idiot" and giving out the South Carolina lawmaker‘s cellphone number during a campaign rally.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/elections/trump-calls-lindsey-graham-idiot-gives-out-senators-cellphone-number




Jul 31, 2008

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This morning, Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) held a press conference to express their “pleasure” about President Bush’s statement this morning regarding what he described as “encouraging news from Iraq” and “the success of the surge.”
Lieberman then announced that he and Graham would do their part in celebrating the surge by introducing a resolution in the Senate “recognizing” its “strategic success” in “the central front in the war on terror.”
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/07/31/26952/lieberman-surge-9-11/






 
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Calling McCain a hero is an insult to all the real heroes out there

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/20/trump-opens-mccains-treasonous-can-of-worms/
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/pow-case-haunts-mccains-image-as-war-hero/
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
http://truthuncensored.net/john-mcc...-a-fraud-video/#sthash.CFbQAQxu.QFAQh0R3.dpbs



33 POWs faced execution for treason after Vietnam until Nixon pardoned all POWs. McCain was on the list of the 33, in fact at the head of it.

Here are the facts as we know them:

According to Colonel Ted Guy, John McCain’s commander as a POW, McCain collaborated with the enemy.
McCain is accused of giving information that led to the downing of 60 US aircraft
McCain is accused of training North Vietnamese air defense personnel
McCain is accused of making over 30 propaganda broadcasts against the US, broadcasts he moved to have classified when he was elected to the senate
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It's a given that Zippyjuan voted McCain is a war hero. Wonder who the other two statist slaves are? This place turning into FOX news or something? THREE votes for war hero FFS.

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John McCain is a war victim. Which led to nearly the only good thing he has done since then, which is calling out torture, even when it's done by the US.
 
Even if I disagree with many of McCain's political views, he does not deserve to be be called "dummy" and other defaming expressions. I see him as a honest, respectable and decent politician. So is Rand Paul. But Donald Trump needs to improve his "level of civilization".


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Gaudius said:
Even if I disagree with many of McCain's political views, he does not deserve to be be called "dummy" and other defaming expressions. I see him as a honest, respectable and decent politician. So is Rand Paul. But Donald Trump needs to improve his "level of civilization".




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You must be joking. There's a reason he's called "McAmnesty".
 
Gaudius said:
. . . I see him (McCain) as a honest, respectable and decent politician.
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Welcome to the forums -
as a libertarian constitutionalist I respect your right to those views unconditiionally but . . .
in general when people try to characterize McCain as anything other than the long, long list of what he has said and done,
I can only shrug and feel they must not be paying attention.

In McCain's own words, hear how honest he is . . .





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Bit off topic old article.

U.S. Military

Watt A Hero?

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Former Pfc. Justin Watt


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Remember the top name of our reality checklist? Justin Watt. You will not find many members of his own platoon who call Watt any kind of hero. He’s been vilified, threatened, and insulted from all branches of the military. No streaming yellow ribbons ‘round Watt’s old oak tree. He’s more likely to find a white rope around his neck.
Pfc. Watt may not ring many bells but he sure blew whistles on his own platoon. It was a wrenching decision. He told Army investigators some of his own buddies or “brothers” as older vets would say, raped a 14- year old Iraqi girl, then killed her and her family in a revenge attack in Mahmoudiya.
Since then, four soldiers were convicted of murder and rape. A fifth-discharged after the atrocity-was convicted in a federal court. Another was charged with not reporting what he witnessed. That charge would have applied to Watt, but he was driven by conscience not consequences.
This kind of sick, sneak attack from Haditha to Abu Grabe to Gitmo and our docile media response, must make the world wonder.

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58216.shtml

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