Do you believe in the pizzagate scandal?

[dannno]

Google Pizzagate, check the news, what do you see? Scroll down just a bit.
Nov 16, 2016... there is some pizza incident that happened in soccer. They are trying to hijack the term, so Europe will not see. 3 hits out of 11 are about the soccer scandal pizza gate. Daily Star and Evening Standard.

The British media is trying to hijack the term. So when you search pizzagate on the internet, it will be a soccer dust up. This started just a few days ago too.

Also note, the scandal happened in 2004. Yet suddenly the media is writing stories about it again.

Alex Jones being proven right again - this is an infowar.

 

[undergroundrr]

This one?

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O8Sw7XCC...s1600/2016-11-12-13_53_55-Films-TV%5B1%5D.png

' i like kids so much i tie them to tables. I am just a normal dude.'

All the instagrams are creepy if seen through a filter of pedophelia. It could also be that some parent instagrammed it to him with a "this is how I keep my little squirt from running around when we're in a restaurant" or a lot of other things. If it's not a den of iniquity, but a family dinner and entertainment destination, then it's subject to the same annoying stuff kids do at Chuck E. Cheese and everywhere else.

It doesn't help that pizzagaters commented on the instagrams with stuff about Kek before they were captured. It looks like people are confused that those comments are part of Alefantis' normal friends' conversation.

 

[undergroundrr]

Alex Jones being proven right again - this is an infowar.

They're doing a crappy job of it. Although rhere are a couple soccer links down the page, most of my links are still coming up with stuff about Comet Ping-Pong. A Google for James Alefantis comes up with a bunch of reddit and alt-media links. I hope you guys are right because that's his internet identity now - child murderer, rapist and pimp.

 

[Athan]

There isn't exactly a lot of footage to the place for "hidden rooms".

Pretty sure they don't want the public to know a lot about it.

 

[Athan]

Why do people WANT this to be real? Sit on that question for a minute.

I spent a lot of time going through the presented evidence. It looked like a bunch of tenuous connections between things that didn't quite pan out into tangible evidence.

It would not shock me one bit if the Podestas were involved with some nasty stuff. But owning edgy modern art is not evidence. People need to drop that.

The code word stuff would be silly, but it's disturbing because addled alt-right brains have constructed a massive pedophilia symbology around it. I can totally see some of the vague emails (dominoes, cheese, pasta) referring to weed and shrooms way, way before some smorgasbord of child abuse. Every occurrence of a spiral pattern somewhere is being touted as a pedophile symbol.

The Alefantis Instagram captures aren't convincing of anything. The chickenlover one is the only one where it looked like the image might be linked to a known pedophile term. Even then he could be razzing somebody in a tacky way, rather than prescribing abuse. No problem seeing the other ones with kids as just a hipster gay guy that likes kids the regular way.

And the hillbilly outrage about Marina Abramovic's performance art is just embarrassing. It's like nobody listened to Slayer or watched Friday the 13th as a kid. Yes, Abramovic has a strong footprint at the top of the art world and she likes to be provocative and push the envelope, as do a large percentage of artists. The New York art world is very tied to money and the influence class, so yes you'll see her around elites. Artists explore the boundaries of birth, life, death, body, thought. Her stuff is somewhat less disturbing than Bosch, Bacon and Giger, none of which have been accused of aiding and abetting pedophilia or ritual baby killing.

It feeds into the sad but probably true perception that liberals love art and conservatives wouldn't know it if it hit em in the face. Then again, sure, Abramovic might just be some kind of Satanic guru.

There were also crude paintings used for rock band poster art that really had some nasty overt imagery that I'd like to un-see. But I never saw any attribution connecting it directly the case at hand other than being generally subversive.

More power to people who continue to investigate. But investigation doesn't really characterize what's all over reddit, just a whole lot of villainizing people nobody's got anything solid on. Pizzagaters want it to be true so much that they'll grab onto any ridiculous tangent as though it's another indisputable piece of the puzzle. So if there is any truth to the allegations, it's getting covered up by a pile of credulous nonsense.

Most damning evidence against the validity of pizzagate is the particular category of people who are leading the charge - the people who think trump is going to fulfill their every political dream. Naturally, they think Clinton is somehow going to fulfill humanity's worst nightmares of cruelty. Funny, because trump seems to be just fine with Hillary now.

No one wants this to be real fool. This is vile stuff. However what you are expecting us to be (if like yourself) is able to ignore the most obvious warning signs in history. Most of us are good at seeing the writing on the wall when it comes to finances and the state of liberty, of course we are going to be the kind of people that are going to see a lot of signs something is not NORMAL.

Hell if you have a problem, why don't you tell the FBI to redact their pedo symbology documents?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/19761

 

[undergroundrr]

Yes. Saw those already. I've seen all the same stuff you have. I'm just not convinced of the major thesis and allegations. Every city block of DC there's something dodgy happening. I just think we might be looking at victimless crimes involving substances rather than sex trafficking. If it's drugs then we should be defending the rights of Alefantis and Podesta, political enemies or not.

The political payments to Comet are worth digging deeper. I just don't find myself jumping to the conclusion they're related to pedophilia. The place rents space, caters, etc.

I am intrigued with the Podesta/McCann stuff, but there's a lot that needs to be way more firmly substantiated before I can take it seriously.

 

[staerker]

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Did you know Tony Podesta has teenager nudes hanging in his house? A Comet "friend" has "artwork" of a young boy sticking a dildo near his mouth. You cannot tell me that art exists in a vacuum. It reveals and spills over into reality. Your defense of compartmentalizing stylized rape proves this point- the next sexual front is pedophilia, and we are being desensitized to it.

But yes, the art is just the damning smoke. There are plenty other leads.

 

[undergroundrr]

Yes, I know about Tony Podesta's art. I'm pretty sure I went through all the screen captures and information nuggets from 4chan and reddit.

Your defense of compartmentalizing stylized rape

Yeah, admittedly I'm a first amendment guy. Maybe you're right and Tony Podesta is City Hall Fred -

 

[Athan]

Yes. Saw those already. I've seen all the same stuff you have. I'm just not convinced of the major thesis and allegations. Every city block of DC there's something dodgy happening. I just think we might be looking at victimless crimes involving substances rather than sex trafficking. If it's drugs then we should be defending the rights of Alefantis and Podesta, political enemies or not.

The political payments to Comet are worth digging deeper. I just don't find myself jumping to the conclusion they're related to pedophilia. The place rents space, caters, etc.

I am intrigued with the Podesta/McCann stuff, but there's a lot that needs to be way more firmly substantiated before I can take it seriously.

You haven't seen all the stuff I have because I haven't posted it here. Some of that $hit I won't touch or save on my computer, let alone post on this forum..

 

[undergroundrr]

You haven't seen all the stuff I have because I haven't posted it here. Some of that $hit I won't touch or save on my computer, let alone post on this forum..

Honestly I didn't notice you in particular in the pizzagate discussions. I don't base my conclusions on anything I see on this forum anymore. Since about nine months ago, it's become pretty worthless for real information

 

[Athan]

Oops, my bad, then you should probably quote who you were posting in reference too.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Alex Jones being proven right again - this is an infowar.

Like when he said everybody was going to be rounded up into FEMA camps?

 

[dannno]

Like when he said everybody was going to be rounded up into FEMA camps?

That was averted, recently.

Although Trump could have camps. I would rather be at a Trump camp than a Hillary camp. Trump would have the best camps.

 

[undergroundrr]

The Etsy designs were just a point to everybody who has concluded the spiral triangles, hearts within hearts and butterflies are damning evidence.

The crossed ping pong paddles equated with the butterfly emblem is really a stretch.

The Terasol heart doesn't even pass muster for the actual FBI pedophilia emblem. All of these would be much more incriminating. Perhaps the Pizzagate investigators should go after them one by one -

 

[Jamesiv1]

That was averted, recently.

Although Trump could have camps. I would rather be at a Trump camp than a Hillary camp. Trump would have the best camps.

Damn right. They would be luxurious and fantastic!

Hillary's would be a total disaster.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Honestly I didn't notice you in particular in the pizzagate discussions. I don't base my conclusions on anything I see on this forum anymore. Since about nine months ago, it's become pretty worthless for real information

You sir, need to respect this forum's libertah.

 

[lilymc]

The fact that they're scrubbing the internet, making instagram pages private and banning pizzagate on reddit and other social media goes to show that there is more to this than just smoke.

 

[AuH20]

Like when he said everybody was going to be rounded up into FEMA camps?

Yes, REX 84 was the most notable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Contingency plans by the US Government for rounding up people perceived by the government to be subversive or a threat to civil order have existed for many decades.[7] For example, from 1967 to 1971, the FBI kept a list of over 100,000 people to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.[8]

Government exists to advance the interests of government. The wants and needs of the people are irrelevant when the chips are down.

 

[newbitech]

I picked "I don't know, I don't care, Too tired of conspiracies."

Because it's the only answer that said, "I don't know." I do care, and I am not too tired of conspiracies. I just don't know and frankly don't have the time to speculate.

When there is some solid evidence, I will pay attention. But for the most part, all I have seen is some loosely related info that sort of remind me of the schizophrenic ramblings of someone I know who suffers from this emotional disorder.

But I am certainly open to viewing evidence.

 

[dannno]

I picked "I don't know, I don't care, Too tired of conspiracies."

Because it's the only answer that said, "I don't know." I do care, and I am not too tired of conspiracies. I just don't know and frankly don't have the time to speculate.

When there is some solid evidence, I will pay attention. But for the most part, all I have seen is some loosely related info that sort of remind me of the schizophrenic ramblings of someone I know who suffers from this emotional disorder.

But I am certainly open to viewing evidence.

What about Madeleine McCann?