Do we write-in Ron Paul or bury McCain and vote for his opponent?

[JK/SEA]

As long as there is a sliver of hope for Ron to get the nomination, i will continue towards my path to Spokane Wa for our State convention.

Plan 'B' is to write his name in. Maybe in blood.

 

[mdh]

I'd say pick from the best candidates available where you are. If your state allows/counts write-ins for anyone, then Dr. Paul may be the best choice. If it doesn't, then the LP or CP candidate may be.

For the love of God, though, don't sell your soul to Obama or McCain.

 

[TruthAtLast]

TruthAtLast, where in my post do you see anything that even suggests that I would vote for McCain or anyone else, certainly not the lesser of two or three evils?

Good grief maybe I should have said I would work with any party that Ron Paul chooses to run for president in. Did you not see, I said I could NOT vote for anyone BUT RON PAUL?

McCain is an obvious front man for the powers that be, same as the puppet Bush.

I based my comment on your statement:

Whatever party Ron Paul is running in is the party I will support.

If I took this out of context I apologize but my response still stands for all others who want to support McCain just because he is a Republican, or because they are more afraid of a socialist state (that we already live in) than a police state that strips us of every last ounce of Freedom we have left.

I'm sorry if I attacked you specifically pepperpete1.

 

[libertarian4321]

Same thing happened during the Clinton era, Clinton attacked MORE countries than both Bush's combined, but you don't hear him getting the rap for that.

Let me help you out with this one (I suspect its obvious to most).

Clinton's interventions resulted in a grand total of ZERO combat deaths. I didn't agree with them, and they cost too much money, but Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti, etc got no Americans killed.

You get a lot more "rap" when there is a steady stream of body bags coming home (Bush's war).

BTW, before you fly off the handle and mention the 20+ dead from Somalia, that was a Bush Sr. operation- a final "screw you" to the American people in December of 2000 (a fact that many seem to forget).

 

[LittleLightShining]

I'm completely blown away by what I've just read. There are a bunch of people here making all kinds of excuses why they'll vote for one head of the 3-headed beast and spit in the face of Ron Paul. I just don't get it. Up until now I was fairly certain that there were more people here who truly value liberty and freedom but I guess I was mistaken. By the looks of this thread there are just about a handful of stalwarts. I salute you!

I'm writing in Ron Paul. I will not be responsible for using the one tool that I was given by the architects of this great republic to kill it. If it's going to die it's going to die, but I don't want the blood on my hands.

I'm not sure where all the love for Obama came from all of a sudden either, but this is what I think: This election is rigged for Hillary. This country is headed for a police state and it will not be any more likely from the hands of John McCain than it will be from Clinton. If Obama wins, Hillary will be the VP, Obama will be sacrificed-- perhaps after he convinces the masses that the NAU is "change we can believe in!" Rioting will ensue and Hillary will have to declare martial law. The pieces are all there. The Democrats in Congress didn't fight Bush's executive orders because they wanted to keep them for themselves.

If McCain wins--which he won't-- but if he does, the war will continue (as it would with a Democrat) but our taxes won't increase as much and we might get a sort-of conservative Supreme Court nominee. Many Republicans are arguing this way for him, but if he wins, as Chuck Baldwin said, the GOP will go back to sleep and then we'll be in trouble. At least in a Democrat-win situation the GOP will stay on its toes.

We have to write in Ron Paul unless he endorses someone on the ballot in all 50 states. We need to be a solid voting bloc and sens a message to them all.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

Im voting paul even on a write in. This shouldnt even be a question at all. Come on people!

 

[majinkoola]

This is so dumb. I know there's going to be RP supporters voting for McCain because he's the "lesser of two evils." Trust me they're there, I've converted a lot of my friends to RP based on his fiscal policy and they're going to vote for the R. And now others will vote for the Dem. It will just cancel out.

Those votes would be much better suited going to the LP or CP, depending on who those candidates are. That would be huge for the future.

What really needs to happen, is the CP and LP need to get their heads out of their butts and nominate Ron Paul whether he likes it or not. That'd be an instant 2 million votes with 0 campaigning. Then these decisions wouldn't have to be made.

 

[TruthAtLast]

People keep saying they will write in Ron Paul but many states don't allow write-ins and they WILL NOT BE COUNTED. There is no "write in" button on the screen in many states. And even if you sent in a provisional ballot it will NOT be counted. You may as well sleep in an not bother showing up at all if that is your only solution.

 

[pepperpete1]

Write in votes

People keep saying they will write in Ron Paul but many states don't allow write-ins and they WILL NOT BE COUNTED. There is no "write in" button on the screen in many states. And even if you sent in a provisional ballot it will NOT be counted. You may as well sleep in an not bother showing up at all if that is your only solution.

If my memory serves me, I read that there about 6 states that do not allow write-in votes and therefore the candidates need not file. But in those states that do the campaign must file the proper forms within a timeline given. If I had to vote on a screen that did not allow me the option of write-in and I knew RP was registered with the state, I would demand, the poll workers give me a paper ballot to write him in and then I would check to see if my and any others I knew wrote him in was counted. That's just me. I'm a little stubborn that way.

TruthAtLast....No harm....No foul. I was just puzzled. Must have been my wording.lol

 

[angelatc]

I think we need to start sending the message that we will not only not vote for McCain, but we will vote for his opponent. I'm sorry, but I don't see a purpose in writing someone in when write-in votes aren't counted.

I am not voting to bury McCain, nor am I voting against anybody. I am voting for Ron Paul.

 

[haigh]

Ron Paul decides

The public test of the Ron Paul Movement will come if Ron Paul declares who he is voting for and advises the Movement to do the same. If the Movement goes against him the MSM will have a field day, and the Movement will look dead.

If Ron Paul advises the LP or CP, those who write him in will be undermining his strategy.

In short, keep your powder dry.

 

[kigol]

My opinion only...

If Hillary is in the race, write in Ron Paul.
If Obama is in the race, vote Obama.

pretty much.

 

[Alawn]

Wrong.

Right now the Republicans are threatening to put more "Conservatives" on the bench.

Allowing McCain in there is asking to be enslaved. It is asking for a police state. A democrat can stem the bleeding from at least one hole.

Are you crazy?

Do you realize what will happen if Democrats put more of their people on the bench?

I'm not saying the Republicans will put on good Judges. I'm sure they won't but the Dems will put on equally bad ones for sure. If they get their way all guns will be gone period. No more second Amendment at all. Congress will have the authority to pass absolutely any law they want no matter what. Forget about states' rights or Congress only having the authority given in the constitution. Get ready for economic disaster and socialism like you have never seen. The liberal judges are decent on criminal law but absolutely horrible on every single other aspect of the constitution.

Unfortunately though the republican judges will make criminal law a lot worse.

Both will bring the police state but through different means.

 

[Soccrmastr]

Constituion Party... 0.o!!

also @ "A democrat can stem the bleeding from at least one hole."

r u high?

 

[pcosmar]

Are you crazy?

Do you realize what will happen if Democrats put more of their people on the bench?

I'm not saying the Republicans will put on good Judges. I'm sure they won't but the Dems will put on equally bad ones for sure. If they get their way all guns will be gone period. No more second Amendment at all. Congress will have the authority to pass absolutely any law they want no matter what. Forget about states' rights or Congress only having the authority given in the constitution. Get ready for economic disaster and socialism like you have never seen. The liberal judges are decent on criminal law but absolutely horrible on every single other aspect of the constitution.

Unfortunately though the republican judges will make criminal law a lot worse.

Both will bring the police state but through different means.

The jury is still out on the question of judges.
I am waiting "with baited breath"for their ruling on the 2nd amendment.

There is really NO DIFFERENCE between McCain and the Democrats, wording, semantics, and lies.
I will write in Ron Paul (if he is not on the ticket) as my choice.
I can NOT vote for more of the same.

 

[Alawn]

No way on earth I will ever vote for Hillary or Obama. But I also can't stand McCain so I wont vote for him either. I am going to either write in Ron Paul or vote for the Libertarian candidate.

 

[phree]

Thank goodness some sane people are posting. I even agree with pcosmar!

 

[jd603]

Dumb idea, the dems don;t need your vote, they are a guaranteed win, write-in ron or don't vote, seriously.

I think we need to start sending the message that we will not only not vote for McCain, but we will vote for his opponent. I'm sorry, but I don't see a purpose in writing someone in when write-in votes aren't counted.

 

[CelestialRender]

I _may_ vote strategically, but will very likely be writing in RP and/or voting LP/CP, depending on their candidates.

But voting for a Dem, just for the sake of pissing off the GOP doesn't work...it would only be billed as being part of the surge the Dems are seeing.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

People keep saying they will write in Ron Paul but many states don't allow write-ins and they WILL NOT BE COUNTED. There is no "write in" button on the screen in many states. And even if you sent in a provisional ballot it will NOT be counted. You may as well sleep in an not bother showing up at all if that is your only solution.

yeah, if this happens in good ol georgia, i will whoop somebodys ass real quick like. i guess i might be spending the night in jail in november huh?


Serious question though, why in the world are write ins not counted? What a joke and a fraud to not do so.