Do we write-in Ron Paul or bury McCain and vote for his opponent?

[Akus]

Yeah, we're setting ourselves up to split our vote just the way the G.O.P. conservatives did this primary season, clearing the way for McCain. With the CP, the LP and a write in campaign all going, we stand a good chance of pissing away a chance to break twenty percent by going six percent here, seven percent there, and winding up impressing no one.

We've got to unify and coalesce around someone. Seems logical to me to make it Dr. Paul, but neither the CP nor the LP seems interested in refraining from fielding competing candidates like they were considering earlier in the year.

We split our vote we're killing all the gains the Revolution has made--simple as that. Join or die. No third option.

Ummm, guy.
I think that's pretty much what I just said.

 

[acptulsa]

Ummm, guy.
I think that's pretty much what I just said.

Just consider my version emphasis added.

 

[The Only Woj]

no doubt in my mind I'm voting for McCain. there is no way I'm going to give up America to socialism like the rest of you seem willing to do. you either vote for the lesser of two evils or you GIVE the greater of those two evils an advantage.

 

[Knightskye]

I'm gonna wait till the convention, honestly. After that, if Ron Paul is on the ballot, I'm voting for him. If he's not on the ballot, I think I'll stay principled and vote liberty-minded.

Bastards jumping ship and voting for a Liberal.

 

[acroso]

Obama

Voting Obama is better than voting McCain, but you only need to do that if your state is competitive. Otherwise go Paul!

 

[Knightskye]

Voting Obama is better than voting McCain, but you only need to do that if your state is competitive. Otherwise go Paul!

I just don't think it's smart to go with the lesser of two evils. People (think they) did that in 2004, and look what happened.

 

[mdh]

no doubt in my mind I'm voting for McCain. there is no way I'm going to give up America to socialism like the rest of you seem willing to do. you either vote for the lesser of two evils or you GIVE the greater of those two evils an advantage.

Explain how McCain is not a socialist.

 

[DFF]

A Democrat protest vote against McCain is no different than voting for McCain himself, since they (McCain;Hillary;Obama) are all alike.

If you support Ron Paul, write him in. If you don't, vote for the above socialist of your choice.

 

[runningdiz]

Can we all wait until after all of the conventions to decide? Its just the presidency who care.. Don't loose focus on all of the Ron Paul candidates running for office that have a chance. All of those offices are more important to our movement currently. Ron needs a friend in congress!!!!

 

[crazyfingers]

The way I see it, if you support a Constitutionally limited federal government, then the only choice is to vote for the Libertarian nominee. Voting Democratic sends a message to the GOP, all right -- the wrong message.

 

[TruthAtLast]

A Democrat protest vote against McCain is no different than voting for McCain himself, since they (McCain;Hillary;Obama) are all alike.

If you support Ron Paul, write him in. If you don't, vote for the above socialist of your choice.

I respectfully disagree that all of them are the same. I don't think they are all alike. I do think they are all corrupt and none of them are good choices. None of them will fix the economy. None will curb spending. But there are definite possibilities where the country could be MUCH worse if one of these candidates wins versus another.

We live in a socialist/fascist country ALREADY. What do you think welfare, unemployment, and social security is? So those people worrying about handing the country over to the socialists... ummm too late.

We have the illusion of democracy and there is still a small glimmer of light from the little freedom we have left. But if we become a full-fledged police state where anyone speaking out against the status quo is labeled a terrorist and detained indefinitely, then this entire Movement is GONE.... DONE.... FINISHED. I have hope for this country, but don't think that this CAN'T happen. Believe me.. it can. If there was another attack (whether real or staged) any last shred of Freedom we have left would be gone.

I'd MUCH rather take my chances with the socialists and fight them tooth and nail as they try to push their agenda. Meanwhile, it buys us time which is probably the most valuable commodity for the Movement. We know that with time, we are waking people up. We know that with time, this Revolution will grow. But if all of the doors of Freedom are closed before we have a chance to take this country back, then all peaceful options will be extinguished.

So YES, there IS a worse of 3 evils here.

Like I said in my previous post. I really don't want to vote Democrat and I don't plan on it because I think (and hope) the Democrats can beat McCain on their own. If that happens, I'll probably vote 3rd party or of course Ron Paul if he ever made it to the ballot.

 

[TruthAtLast]

Can we all wait until after all of the conventions to decide? Its just the presidency who care.. Don't loose focus on all of the Ron Paul candidates running for office that have a chance. All of those offices are more important to our movement currently. Ron needs a friend in congress!!!!

QFT

 

[yaz]

Bob Barr for general election. Ron Paul for primaries (unless he gets nominated).

 

[GunnyFreedom]

This is much like Socrates' "Choose your method of execution"

Obama = Globalist. NAU
Clinton = Communist. Total bankruptcy and collectivist marketplace.
McCain = Fascist. Several more invasions and a "Naziistic" police state.

To my eyes, the 'least harmful' of the three is Hillary. However, I'll never vote for an 'evil' just because it's 'lesser.'

I will be writing in Ron Paul come November, period. end of story.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I think we need to start sending the message that we will not only not vote for McCain, but we will vote for his opponent. I'm sorry, but I don't see a purpose in writing someone in when write-in votes aren't counted.

I'm voting for whoever has the best chance to beat McCain, which undoubtedly will be the democrat nominee. I'm doing that because McCain is a psychopath, and because the GOP is a rancid stain that should be wiped out. They had their chance at redemption by nominating Paul and they rejected it. Now the GOP needs to die.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'm voting for whoever has the best chance to beat McCain, which undoubtedly will be the democrat nominee. I'm doing that because McCain is a psychopath, and because the GOP is a rancid stain that should be wiped out. They had their chance at redemption by nominating Paul and they rejected it. Now the GOP needs to die.

Funny thing though - if you really wanted to kill off the GOP, then the best way to do that is for McCain to actually win....

Now, see my post just above for proof that I would rather Hillary win than McCain, because I HATE McCain with every ounce of my vitriol. But if your strategy really is to 'kill off the GOP' then nothing would do that more effectively, quickly, and permanenty than a McCain win. Just sayin.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Anybody think Nader is a good option for us?

 

[SeanEdwards]

Funny thing though - if you really wanted to kill off the GOP, then the best way to do that is for McCain to actually win....

Now, see my post just above for proof that I would rather Hillary win than McCain, because I HATE McCain with every ounce of my vitriol. But if your strategy really is to 'kill off the GOP' then nothing would do that more effectively, quickly, and permanenty than a McCain win. Just sayin.

I doubt there'd be much of a country left after McCain got through with it. That nut wants to climb up Satan's bunghole in his search for bin Laden, and you just know he wants to drag America along on the trip.

I think his actual quote was "I'd follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell." Totally not the language I want to hear from a guy with his hand on a nuclear trigger.

 

[TruthAtLast]

I doubt there'd be much of a country left after McCain got through with it. That nut wants to climb up Satan's bunghole in his search for bin Laden, and you just know he wants to drag America along on the trip.

I think his actual quote was "I'd follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell." Totally not the language I want to hear from a guy with his hand on a nuclear trigger.

+1

 

[acptulsa]

Yeah, McCain is bad. Very very very bad. The question is, are there enough racist and sexist voters out there to go against the Dubya 20% approval rating and vote for the psycho anyway, or are these polls we're seeing just proof that the racist and sexist are the most likely to have land lines and sit through opinion polls? I think the latter.

I really don't think the Democrats need our help this November. I think the future needs our help more.