DO NOT BUY: Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto, by Mark Levin
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Derek Johnson
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Liberty vs. Tyranny is a lightweight treatise of neo-conservatism for those who may be uninitiated to the Austrian school of economics. Partisan politics knows no limits with Mark Levin, who will never point fingers at the real problem, the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM. A book Mark should have read before posing as a "pro-war Ron Paul" would be Griffin's 'Creature from Jeckyl Island'...a book about the Federal Reserve bank, or Tom Wood's 'Meltdown'. Rather, we have to endure Mark's blunt and clumsy ignorance and/or propaganda.
Levin either won't point at or is too ignorant to understand the real problem, the Federal Reserve Banking system. This is the big enabler. This is saying something, what Levin says is watered down Ron-Paul-wannabe blame it all on FDR and Democrats...go to the source, read the real Ron Paul [not the sophomoric imitation i.e. the subject book's author], read Mises, read Woods, read Smith, read DiLorenzo, read Hayek. Many Austrian economics books are free at the Mises institute, and they will take you from blockhead economics that Levin spews in his "book" to the reality of what is.
If you would bother to educate yourself, you wouldn't need the opinions of shrill block headed economy spewing/big empire government posers like Mark Levin. Yes FDR sucks indeed, but it goes to 1913, as most of our modern problems do.
Mark won't go to 1913, Mark stops at simple partisan drivel, and makes money with his nasel nautia crying and wailing that everything is the Democrats fault...no mention of the "crossing the aisle" compromises that make the big government Democrats and big government Republicans happy that they got their expensive bills and resolutions passed.
Mark Levin is no fan of Congressman Ron Paul which begs the question, why exactly is Mark Levin is no fan of Congressman Ron Paul if he is truly for limited government, self government, and the unregulated free market?
Contradictions?
Look, Mark Levin is not Hayek, Mises, Walter Williams, Tom Woods, Burton Folsom, Tom DiLorenzo, Murray Rothbard, Ron Paul, Devvy Kid or even close.
Instead of a Mises style approach we get the same old partisan "Republicans are correct", and "Democrats are incorrect", which should be an insult if you understand the compromises that politicians make to get their pork passed. Neither political party is fiscally conservative, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
When I finish this treatise of half-truths and partisan finger pointing that attempts in vain to establish that this author is for less government, I will disect this book chapter by chapter here and on YouTube, explaining why EXPANSIVE FOREIGN POLICY and small government policy are never complimentary or even capable of coexistence, especially under a private foreign controlled central bank with artificial interest rates that gets the exclusive right to print money out of thin air.
Wake up call to Mark Levin, and Mark Levin readers, a world empire under the Federal Reserve system racking up trillion dollar regime changes under circumstances of questionable motives will not lead to less government, it will lead to more government.
The expansions and examples that you say are lacking of "free market/small government" conservative ideas could have been cited specifically using the books of Mises, Hayek, Menger, Smith, Paul etc...but these men were not foreign intervension advocates as Levin obviously is...in Chapter 10, Mark supports the idea of changing foreign sovereign's head of state 'whenever it serves America's interest'. This is exactly how the general welfare clause, interstate commerce clause, and judicial review become the usurpations that Jefferson obviously feared. And, btw, we are approximately 1 trillion dollars less able to deal with N. Korea, China etc., thanks to our act in "keeping the world safe" by ousting Saddam Hussein.
Mark's support of both free market and interventionalist foreign policy in iself is a contradiction of the war-freemarket relationship viewpoint of Bastiat, Tocqueville, Burke, Locke, Smith, Madison, Jefferson, Franklin...all of whom Mark cites for support of "the conservative believes this and that" etc.
"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps the most to be dreaded because it compromises and develops the germ of every other."
~James Madison
"I venture to say no war can be long carried on against the will of the people."
~Edmund Burke
"War...is harmful, not only to the conquered but to the conqueror."
~Ludwig von Mises
"'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded."
~FA Hayek
"When goods don't cross borders, soldiers will."
~Fredric Bastiat
"All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it."
~Alexis de Tocqueville
"All mankind...being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions."
~John Locke
"There never was a good war or a bad peace."
~Benjamin Franklin
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto."
~Thomas Jefferson
"They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property, and lives of their people."
~Thomas Jefferson
"O, it is excellent To have a giant's strength! But it is tyrannous To use it like a giant."
~William Shakespeare
"Peace is the virtue of civilization. War is its crime."
~Victor Hugo
"War is a racket."
~Major General Smedley Butler
"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people."
~Ron Paul
Mark Levin is simply a neoconservative Republican hack. Leo Strauss and Nicollo Machiavelli would be very proud of you Mark, congratulations.
Levin either won't point at or is too ignorant to understand the real problem, the Federal Reserve Banking system. This is the big enabler. This is saying something, what Levin says is watered down Ron-Paul-wannabe blame it all on FDR and Democrats...go to the source, read the real Ron Paul [not the sophomoric imitation i.e. the subject book's author], read Mises, read Woods, read Smith, read DiLorenzo, read Hayek. Many Austrian economics books are free at the Mises institute, and they will take you from blockhead economics that Levin spews in his "book" to the reality of what is.
If you would bother to educate yourself, you wouldn't need the opinions of shrill block headed economy spewing/big empire government posers like Mark Levin. Yes FDR sucks indeed, but it goes to 1913, as most of our modern problems do.
Mark won't go to 1913, Mark stops at simple partisan drivel, and makes money with his nasel nautia crying and wailing that everything is the Democrats fault...no mention of the "crossing the aisle" compromises that make the big government Democrats and big government Republicans happy that they got their expensive bills and resolutions passed.
Mark Levin is no fan of Congressman Ron Paul which begs the question, why exactly is Mark Levin is no fan of Congressman Ron Paul if he is truly for limited government, self government, and the unregulated free market?
Contradictions?
Look, Mark Levin is not Hayek, Mises, Walter Williams, Tom Woods, Burton Folsom, Tom DiLorenzo, Murray Rothbard, Ron Paul, Devvy Kid or even close.
Instead of a Mises style approach we get the same old partisan "Republicans are correct", and "Democrats are incorrect", which should be an insult if you understand the compromises that politicians make to get their pork passed. Neither political party is fiscally conservative, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
When I finish this treatise of half-truths and partisan finger pointing that attempts in vain to establish that this author is for less government, I will disect this book chapter by chapter here and on YouTube, explaining why EXPANSIVE FOREIGN POLICY and small government policy are never complimentary or even capable of coexistence, especially under a private foreign controlled central bank with artificial interest rates that gets the exclusive right to print money out of thin air.
Wake up call to Mark Levin, and Mark Levin readers, a world empire under the Federal Reserve system racking up trillion dollar regime changes under circumstances of questionable motives will not lead to less government, it will lead to more government.
The expansions and examples that you say are lacking of "free market/small government" conservative ideas could have been cited specifically using the books of Mises, Hayek, Menger, Smith, Paul etc...but these men were not foreign intervension advocates as Levin obviously is...in Chapter 10, Mark supports the idea of changing foreign sovereign's head of state 'whenever it serves America's interest'. This is exactly how the general welfare clause, interstate commerce clause, and judicial review become the usurpations that Jefferson obviously feared. And, btw, we are approximately 1 trillion dollars less able to deal with N. Korea, China etc., thanks to our act in "keeping the world safe" by ousting Saddam Hussein.
Mark's support of both free market and interventionalist foreign policy in iself is a contradiction of the war-freemarket relationship viewpoint of Bastiat, Tocqueville, Burke, Locke, Smith, Madison, Jefferson, Franklin...all of whom Mark cites for support of "the conservative believes this and that" etc.
"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps the most to be dreaded because it compromises and develops the germ of every other."
~James Madison
"I venture to say no war can be long carried on against the will of the people."
~Edmund Burke
"War...is harmful, not only to the conquered but to the conqueror."
~Ludwig von Mises
"'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded."
~FA Hayek
"When goods don't cross borders, soldiers will."
~Fredric Bastiat
"All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it."
~Alexis de Tocqueville
"All mankind...being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions."
~John Locke
"There never was a good war or a bad peace."
~Benjamin Franklin
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto."
~Thomas Jefferson
"They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property, and lives of their people."
~Thomas Jefferson
"O, it is excellent To have a giant's strength! But it is tyrannous To use it like a giant."
~William Shakespeare
"Peace is the virtue of civilization. War is its crime."
~Victor Hugo
"War is a racket."
~Major General Smedley Butler
"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people."
~Ron Paul
Mark Levin is simply a neoconservative Republican hack. Leo Strauss and Nicollo Machiavelli would be very proud of you Mark, congratulations.
Original_Intent
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I didn't even know who he was, but I took one look at his smug mug on the cover and I thought "Rush Limbaugh wanna-be". Seriously.
I saw a few ads for this on Drudge a few weeks ago.
Let Mark Levin further define "conservative" to be an ever more restrictive group, The Revolution: A Manifesto has no Us v. Them mentality, and welcomes all readers (save parasites).
Mark Levin's book seems to only allow a perfect world that contains only Mark Levin clones, and he will draw 'followers' only from that same crowd. Ron's book's perfect world lets you be you, lets you keep your productive rewards, and encourages peace, friendship and cooperation. Anyone can read it and agree that the system is broken.
I'm not at all worried about some tool trying to use the same old language-usurping tactics when we he is merely giving the calloused mind a thiker skin while we are winning hearts and minds and setting mental brush-fires.
Let Mark Levin further define "conservative" to be an ever more restrictive group, The Revolution: A Manifesto has no Us v. Them mentality, and welcomes all readers (save parasites).
Mark Levin's book seems to only allow a perfect world that contains only Mark Levin clones, and he will draw 'followers' only from that same crowd. Ron's book's perfect world lets you be you, lets you keep your productive rewards, and encourages peace, friendship and cooperation. Anyone can read it and agree that the system is broken.
I'm not at all worried about some tool trying to use the same old language-usurping tactics when we he is merely giving the calloused mind a thiker skin while we are winning hearts and minds and setting mental brush-fires.
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He is on the radio here in NY and on Sirius. Anyone that does not agree with his brand of Neo-Conservatism hates America.
Guys like him and Hannity are part of the problem since this is what the average Joe believes Conservatism is really all about. The sheeple cannot be bothered to take the time to understand the difference between real Conservatism and big government Neo-Conservatism. Guys like them are the reason why we had Bush for 8 years and now Obama. If his book says otherwise he is lying sack of shit since I listened to his radio show and the bashing of Ron Paul and Ron Paul supporters.
In the future we can expect these guys to continue to push big government types for office such as Romney, Gingrich, Guliani, etc.
Guys like him and Hannity are part of the problem since this is what the average Joe believes Conservatism is really all about. The sheeple cannot be bothered to take the time to understand the difference between real Conservatism and big government Neo-Conservatism. Guys like them are the reason why we had Bush for 8 years and now Obama. If his book says otherwise he is lying sack of shit since I listened to his radio show and the bashing of Ron Paul and Ron Paul supporters.
In the future we can expect these guys to continue to push big government types for office such as Romney, Gingrich, Guliani, etc.
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Wouldn't that require you to buy the book?
RCA
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mod, please redirect this thread to Liberty Books
Dreamofunity
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Do you even have to heed this warning?
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A friend I met during the RP campaign recently gave me a copy of this book. I didn't want to read it because of what I have heard here. I started it, it seemed okay and then I started watching Levin youtubes. I can't go any further with it. This guy is not on our side. I finally, finally convinced my friend of the same thing.
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