DJIA, NYSE, S&P = CRASH!!!

[Zippyjuan]

Why? What does it mean? What other good or bad numbers are there?

 

[devil21]

Why? What does it mean? What other good or bad numbers are there?

Not the thread for it and too complicated to explain succintly. Just something to watch.

 

[presence]

transport (DJT) and energy (XLE) continue to tank. there is no way industrials (DJI) and tech (IXIC) can rally without them.

this market is toxic. ignore the october rally and stay away.

 

[presence]

The $SPXA200R is a breadth indicator showing the percentage of S&P 500 stocks above the 200-day moving average.


here in daily candles:

the 50 day vs 200 day cross down hasn't even begun to be corrected; daily rsi entering overbought.

 

[Lightweis]

Hope everyone followed my lead and bought the crash.

 

[Madison320]

My guess is the market is going to tank now that people think rate hikes are back in play after the jobs report.

 

[jllundqu]

Can someone PLEASE tell me where and when the Shemitah is coming????? lol

 

[presence]

Hope everyone followed my lead and bought the crash.

nice pickup. I'd let that go again here.

 

[Zippyjuan]

SPUX- the S&P 500 shorting fund from post #5 was 32.63 when the thread was started. Today it is 30.21- down 7.4%. http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=SPXU+Interactive#{"range":"1d","allowChartStacking":true}

 

[wizardwatson]

Can someone PLEASE tell me where and when the Shemitah is coming????? lol

Shemitah already happened, bro. It's Jubilee year now.

There isn't going to be any big "sign" for this generation unless Jesus is a liar. If you want to know the details of what the Shemitah is saying you have to read. The doors of mercy are closing fast.

If you want to know exactly when the apocalypse is going to start before it starts you're probably out of luck. God wants it to be a surprise. That whole "thief in the night" thing. But you will know after it's started. Clearly laid out for you in Revelation 6.

The Sixth Seal: Terror
12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

When there's a huge earthquake and something so terrible happens that the elite start occupying their bunkers. It has started.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Shemitah already happened, bro. It's Jubilee year now.

Neither one of which is about economics or the end of the world. Though this is not quite true. During Shemitah you are supposed to forgive debts and not work your fields to let them rest for a year.

 

[wizardwatson]

Neither one of which is about economics or the end of the world. Though this is not quite true. During Shemitah you are supposed to forgive debts and not work your fields to let them rest for a year.

Is your statement based on the fact that you've read Cahn's books? I'm guessing not. I think we established that months ago.

I don't think it's necessary to clarify every time the Shemitah mystery is mentioned that we're referring to Jonathan Cahn's interpretation as outlined in his two books since the only reason it's even part of pop culture is because of him. No one was saying that word until he wrote his book.

 

[devil21]

Shemitah already happened, bro. It's Jubilee year now.

The Catholic jubilee doesn't start until Dec 8 2015.

Is your statement based on the fact that you've read Cahn's books? I'm guessing not. I think we established that months ago.

I don't think it's necessary to clarify every time the Shemitah mystery is mentioned that we're referring to Jonathan Cahn's interpretation as outlined in his two books since the only reason it's even part of pop culture is because of him. No one was saying that word until he wrote his book.

The 7 year cycles were known about (if not entirely recognized at the time) since they are in the bible. Cahn's interpretation could be correct or incorrect. Fwiw, I had an interesting interaction with a jewish acquaintance regarding Shmita and he responded very strangely when the subject came up. One conversation he basically admitted that it's a "thing" but wouldn't elaborate much and his body language became uncomfortable. A later conversation he acted like I had two heads when I mentioned it and said he had no idea what I was talking about. Weird.

 

[devil21]

nice pickup. I'd let that go again here.

With the 250+ drop today, you may have nailed it again! Seems about the right time for the "Denial" (Denali?) stage to have run its course.

 

[presence]

Copper smelters, oil explorers and iron ore miners tumbled in Asia following a collapse in returns from raw materials


to
the
lowest
in
16 years.



The Bloomberg World Mining Index, a gauge of the world’s biggest producers, fell 5.7 percent in a fifth week of losses while a similar measure of energy shares was heading for the biggest drop since August.


Prices of everything from gold to oil to copper are getting hammered.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ide-as-collapse-in-raw-materials-deepens-pain

REKT

 

[wizardwatson]

The Catholic jubilee doesn't start until Dec 8 2015.

Yet another synchronicity as the last two Jewish Jubilee's did not fall on a Catholic Jubilee.

The 7 year cycles were known about (if not entirely recognized at the time) since they are in the bible. Cahn's interpretation could be correct or incorrect. Fwiw, I had an interesting interaction with a jewish acquaintance regarding Shmita and he responded very strangely when the subject came up. One conversation he basically admitted that it's a "thing" but wouldn't elaborate much and his body language became uncomfortable. A later conversation he acted like I had two heads when I mentioned it and said he had no idea what I was talking about. Weird.

Correct or incorrect with respect to what? The main problem with people's interpretation of Cahn is they assume he's predicting something. Hence, all the "will the world end September 23rd" paranoia. I think of it more as a tsunami warning. The events he analyzes are in the past. They only point to a gradual building and immanence.

Anyway, it's all just synchronicity so dismissing it as coincidence along with the record-breaking number of earthquakes this year is certainly an option.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yet another synchronicity as the last two Jewish Jubilee's did not fall on a Catholic Jubilee.



Correct or incorrect with respect to what? The main problem with people's interpretation of Cahn is they assume he's predicting something. Hence, all the "will the world end September 23rd" paranoia. I think of it more as a tsunami warning. The events he analyzes are in the past. They only point to a gradual building and immanence.

Anyway, it's all just synchronicity so dismissing it as coincidence along with the record-breaking number of earthquakes this year is certainly an option.

What is the annual record for earthquakes? Do you count all quakes of all sizes or are only looking at quakes of a certain size? How many happened this year?

According to Wiki, this year (so far) is the third lowest total number of quakes in the last decade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_2015

If you consider large quakes of 7.0 and above, this year trails 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 in the last decade. 8.0 or higher? Tied for second lowest (with five other years) with one. 2007 had four times that many huge quakes. An average to below average year at best over the last ten years. Certainly no records broken.

 

[wizardwatson]

What is the annual record for earthquakes? Do you count all quakes of all sizes or are only looking at quakes of a certain size? How many happened this year?

According to Wiki, this year (so far) is the third lowest total number of quakes in the last decade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_2015

If you consider large quakes of 7.0 and above, this year trails 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 in the last decade. 8.0 or higher? Tied for second lowest (with five other years) with one. 2007 had four times that many huge quakes. An average to below average year at best over the last ten years. Certainly no records broken.

Well, this was on drudge a couple days ago:

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion...gression-of-disasters-that-began-in-september

I'm talking about Oklahoma and west coast.

And I only mentioned the earthquakes in the sentence where I said considering it coincidence is certainly an option. It doesn't matter if records are broken really. It doesn't "mean" something is going to happen, it only means that certain conditions are met for what is prophesied.

If Jesus says there will be earthquakes all over the place when the end comes it doesn't mean the end is coming because there are earthquakes all over the place. But it does mean conditions are met.

 

[Zippyjuan]

SO the Bible was talking about Oklahoma in Revelations. Interesting. Doesn't it say "great" earthquakes? Do the tiny quakes in Oklahoma qualify as "great" quakes? Yellowstone had even more quakes than that a few years ago.

http://biblehub.com/luke/21-11.htm

10Then He continued by saying to them, "Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, 11and there will be great earthquakes, and in various places plagues and famines; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven. 12"But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you to the synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for My name's sake.…

 

[wizardwatson]

SO the Bible was talking about Oklahoma in Revelations. Interesting. Doesn't it say "great" earthquakes? (and it wasn't Jesus saying it but another writer of that Bible book). Do the tiny quakes in Oklahoma qualify as "great" quakes? Yellowstone had even more quakes than that a few years ago.

Not talking about revelation. Talking about what Jesus said when he was asked what signs there would be. Earthquakes was just one thing he mentioned. Said there would be earthquakes in diverse places. Pretty non-specific considering no one (especially before the advent of technology) is really aware of earthquakes far away from them, except in today's world.

End times prophecy is throughout the bible, fyi, not just in revelation. Jesus spoke quite a bit about it (not as much as we'd all like).