Did the debate tonight hurt or help Ron Paul?

[mport1]

There is no way this will hurt RP. He did an incredible job and will now be back in the national spotlight for a little while.

 

[ghemminger]

How many people were viewing whn the site blew up???

 

[MsDoodahs]

I wonder how hard core GOPers feel about Ron's bold statement re: their party is shrinking fast, that they're losing membership in a huge way because of their embrace of neocon foreign policy?

 

[jjschless]

“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi



This “Debate” was full of all three of those actions for Dr. Ron Paul. The incessant snickering, the pointed questions, the scripted retort from the “moderators” all indications that the GOP really feels threatened by Dr. Paul, and with good reason I might add.



I am amused how the other candidates sound more and more like Dr. Paul on many of the divisive issues. From Romney and Giuliani and their now Federalist stances on issues like abortion and gun laws to Huckabee and his multitude of talking points regarding the Constitution; also the fact that the other Candidates have started mentioning a President going to Congress instead of simply taking action.



Have any of the other candidates managed to change the rhetoric as Dr. Paul has? I think not.



Truly Dr. Paul is in a league of his own and the others are playing catch up. They can ridicule and attack all they want but slander can never make up for their blatant shortcomings.



Make no mistake this was a contrived assault on Dr. Paul and it was so starkly obvious that I have no recourse but to laugh and cheer. Had they simply marginalized him and ignored him I would have had reason to worry. The harder they try to smear and slander the good Doctor the more of an impact the rEVOLution is having.



We must expect the beast to fight back. The Establishment and status quo have so much to lose that they would be fools not to object and proceed as they have. We must expect it to get worse. I image the next Fox sponsored debate to be shameful and as uncivil as a school yard brawl. I suspect a great many hit pieces will be written and propagated by weeks end. All of this will give us the greatest boost to the campaign to date. More and more people will learn Dr. Ron Paul’s name and that is the only real challenge we as a campaign have, name recognition. Once a person takes a look at Dr. Paul any real damage a libel could have done will be rendered moot.



In the end I had a certain expectation of deplorable programming from Fox News and I can say with absolute certainty that I was not disappointed.

 

[ghemminger]

I wonder how hard core GOPers feel about Ron's bold statement re: their party is shrinking fast, that they're losing membership in a huge way because of their embrace of neocon foreign policy?

He just stated the painfully obvious!

 

[ape]

The chuckles came from Rudy the orange man that used too much spray tan.

lol, I just noticed that. HAHAH classic. I think RP had an awesome night, he makes those fox news people look like fools. No wonder they hate him so much.

 

[wgadget]

I'll be listening to Bill Bennett and Hannity tomorrow to see if they even mention the name of our next president....RON PAUL.

 

[hambone1982]

SOLID performance.

 

[quickmike]

Next years Fox lineup...................


Brit Hume - shift manager

Chris Wallace - french fry cooker/drive thru

Sean Hannity - "cheese guy" .......... thats about all he can handle(just put the cheese on the burger sean, yeah thats good............. no, just one sean........ there ya go)

 

[DJ RP]

Best debate by Ron HANDS DOWN!!!! Im not bullshitting either. He stood up for himself better, spoke clearly, and didnt take any shit from Hannity, and did it with a smile on his face and a coolness that actually made me laugh.

Hahahah. I watched that hannity exchange with a permanent grin on my face. Ron just served him so bad!

 

[ape]

Next years Fox lineup...................


Brit Hume - shift manager

Chris Wallace - french fry cooker/drive thru

Sean Hannity - "cheese guy" .......... thats about all he can handle(just put the cheese on the burger sean, yeah thats good............. no, just one sean........ there ya go)

heh, I always figured hannity to be the guy who cleans the toilets and takes out the garbage.

 

[quickmike]

heh, I always figured hannity to be the guy who cleans the toilets and takes out the garbage.

I think thats gonna be Colmes, since he doesnt really get along with the other guys. Best to have them working in a seperate part of the Mc D's Avoid conflicts and all.

 

[jonahtrainer]

I wonder how hard core GOPers feel about Ron's bold statement re: their party is shrinking fast, that they're losing membership in a huge way because of their embrace of neocon foreign policy?

I had lunch with a local Republican Executive Committee of about 25 people. Mostly all the movers and shakers, the Tax Collector, Sheriff, County Commissioner, several former state representatives and senators, etc. were all present.

None of them had a primary candidate picked out. All mourned the lack of grassroots support and dissipating of the party. They asked us who we support and I said Ron Paul. Very few had even heard of him. We passed out lots of slim-jims. Most were old-style Reagan/Goldwater Republicans. It will be fun having lunch with them again next month. A couple are going to come to our Meetup Group.

I think Ron Paul pulled a brilliant military tactic; divide and conquer. He is dividing the Republican party and conquering the non-neocons that are pissed with Bush. That includes almost the entire party; just very few say it because they do not want to 'run away from the President.' There is a lot of discontent within the party because of Bush and they feel royally screwed.

Anyway, Ron Paul rang the Liberty Bell tonight! Based on responses and such it looks like about 40% more people watched this debate than the May 15. With all the slim-jims I gave out today they were probably watching for him specifically.

I can't stress how important it is to just get out and attend your local meetings. These people are starving for Ron Paul and the media is blacking him out.

 

[wolv275]

You could see it in old Hucks face when he was starring into the eyes of Ron Paul and thinking (you are going down old man). but When Ron started to show him how the rule of law was raped and the honor of our young men and women is only being debated to safe face, he quickly saw the error of his tactics. He saw the Chuck Norris round house coming and could not do anything but get kicked in the face.

 

[Gee]

Overall I think it helped, but Fox's lies hurt him quite a bit. Get rid of the CIA and FBI? Paul has never campaigned on those things.

 

[austinphish]

OMG - i am watching the replay in Hawaii - that laughing at Paul is total BS ... WTF?????????????????

 

[Ninja Homer]

Overall it helped however I wish when Huckabee was speaking of honor Ron had not spoken about the GOP losing elections.
And he handled Chris Wallace perfectly. Angry but composed and I loved we get our marching orders from the Constitution.
Rudy's smirk will come back to haunt him.

I don't know about you guys, but I love this guy! He made the most RATIONAL and PASSIONATE arguments in the entire debate, the other Candidates were all posing and trying to give that Miss South Carolina-type answer....They were all so transparent and superficial, and call me biased, but Ron is the most HONEST and RATIONAL man on that stage.

Hannity and Colmes can kiss my large human backside, especially Hannity, but can we really blame them for their ignorance? They have been fully indoctrinated and just don't KNOW any better, but Ron held his own, I have tremendous respect for this man, doing what I myself attempted to do in 2000. I pray to God, Buddha, Santa, the Easter Bunny and WHOMEVER ELSE I need to pray to, that Ron becomes our next President, and that he is able to accomplish a FRACTION of what he seeks to do.

He has stood up for we Veterans for a long time, He's a great American, one of the few left.

Great first posts! I agree on both.

Thank you, and welcome to Ron Paul Forums!

 

[quickmike]

You could see it in old Hucks face when he was starring into the eyes of Ron Paul and thinking (you are going down old man). but When Ron started to show him how the rule of law was raped and the honor of our young men and women is only being debated to safe face, he quickly saw the error of his tactics. He saw the Chuck Norris round house coming and could not do anything but get kicked in the face.

Ron Paul uses Monkey Style.............. hard to know whats gonna happen next with that.

 

[SWATH]

Are you kidding? This will totally over shadow the Fred Thompson news tomorrow! Remember how flooded the news got with the "Giuliani slaps down Ron Paul" stories. This will take alot of attention away from Drama queen Fred.

Imagine all the youtube videos of Dr. NO actually yelling "NO!" at Chris Wallace.

 

[quickmike]

Sure, you can say "gee I wish Ron would have said this........... or done that...... but think about the kind of crap he had piling on top of him. Candidates, moderators, time allowed. Under the circumstances I thought he was sharp, aggressive but not over aggresive. I couldnt have asked for more. Well, I could ask, but why look a gift horse in the mouth?

It would be very difficult to keep your cool under that kind of pressure, but he did it, and I dont have any complaints.