"Democrat Dictator" tries to ban me from sidewalk @ GOP debate

[speciallyblend]

if you do not want to be recorded stay home and don't be in public places. That is the best solution.

 

[speciallyblend]

Oh, the "stick a camera in your face" nonsense. Ridley was several feet away at all times and never advanced on the guy. PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE EVIL CAMERAS THAT MERELY DOCUMENT WHAT IS HAPPENING.


But he already demonstrated that he thinks he has authority and tried to order Ridley off a public sidewalk.

i wish some of these ron paul supporters attacking ridley . Were this fired up about all the cameras on the poles already filming and recording including the man who doesn't want to be filmed.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

The street may have been closed, but the sidewalk was not.

You know this how?

This gent was talking out of his ass when he said he couldn't be up there without a pass, on a public sidewalk that was open to foot traffic.

You know this how?

No, he just doesn't have to be standing near Ridley. Ridley wasn't even taping him until he flashed his credentials and told Ridley to get off the public sidewalk.

Ridley was recording everything the whole time.

 

[kylejack]

You know this how?

Because I can see people entering the sidewalk from a public street without being checked for credentials, and because the angry little dictator told Ridley he could be there when quite clearly he didn't want to.

Ridley was recording everything the whole time.

Yeah, and that's his right in a public place. Deal with it.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I agree 100% with that statement. And thank you for the compliment.



The guy trying to remove Dave from the sidewalk was being irrational. It almost seemed like the guy knew who Dave was and just wanted to be a prick. He was not the focus of Dave's video until the guy started bitching. This is enough to warrant keeping a camera on the guy. What if he tried to attack him? You never know with some of these crazy freedom haters.



So now your a thug if your an alternative media press videographer supporting grassroots politics who won't allow "some guy" to remove you from a public sidewalk? Got it.

Isn't that the philosophy of the Ron Paul movement? Civil disobedience? He wasn't doing any thing wrong and that guy blew a gasket and asked a "cop" to have him removed and even the cop told him to get lost because there is nothing they can do.

That's exactly the point. The cops didn't do anything. This isn't civil disobedience because there's no authority involved. I don't think you have to be an asshole and keep filiming the guy just because, for reasons he saw as valid, decided to tell you to move, never mind being confrontational even when the situation doesn't call for it.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Thuggery? What a joke.

This individual attempted to initiate force by trying to get the police to remove him from a public sidewalk. The police told him to scram. Dave simply documented what was happening.

Yes, and then he told him it was alright for him to stand there. Then, the guy ASKS Ridely to stop filming and he gets all confrontational instead of just saying 'hey, I would rather film right now,' or some more appropriate response, such as actually saying "Oh, ok, I didn't realize it bothered you. I'll stop now because I have no reason to be suspicious" (which he didn't). It's called having respect for other people's privacy. Sure, you don't have the expectaiton of complete privacy in public, but you do expect privacy to some extent, don't you? I don't like people following me with a camera either.

There is no expectation of privacy in public. This guy came up to Ridley. If he didn't want to be filmed he didn't have to come running up the sidewalk to try and get Ridley to leave. Ridley had no interest in him until he started trying to flash his pass and control public space.

When someone lets their guard down and stops harrassing you and REQUESTS that you "please" stop filming, it's time to stop playing hero for the common man's liberty and come down off your high horse and just interact with people on a personal level instead of treating them like some worm who's trying to crawl into their brain as part of a vast conspiracy to take away your rights. The suspicion has to end somewhere, or else what kind of life do you lead?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Oh, the "stick a camera in your face" nonsense. Ridley was several feet away at all times and never advanced on the guy. PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE EVIL CAMERAS THAT MERELY DOCUMENT WHAT IS HAPPENING.


But he already demonstrated that he thinks he has authority and tried to order Ridley off a public sidewalk.

He's not an agent man. Just accept this and chill the fuck out. And yes, a lot of people don't like it when cameras are watching them for no reason. If the government puts a camera in your home do you defend them by saying it "only document what is happening." Some people don't like being watched. Can't you just respect their personal privacy wishes?

 

[roho76]

That's exactly the point. The cops didn't do anything. This isn't civil disobedience because there's no authority involved. I don't think you have to be an asshole and keep filiming the guy just because, for reasons he saw as valid, decided to tell you to move, never mind being confrontational even when the situation doesn't call for it.

Excuse me. Who was being confrontational in this situation?

If I'm just a guy outside on a public sidewalk taking stock footage for some video I'm making and some asshole comes up to me and tells me to stop taping for no reason and then tries to involve authorities to no avail, who is being confrontational? What if I'm not video taping at all and just taking mental images to remember later? Is looking at someone and taking a mental image being "confrontational", also? This guy was being your typical blow hard, jackass, authority figure, wanna-be and it backfired on him. He lost all credibility with the "yeah yeah, freedom" comment. What a jack ass.

This is in no way stating my opinion of Dave Ridley. I have seen his videos before and I have never seen any where he is blatantly being a dick (this does not mean they don't exist, only that if they do I have never seen them). They are always him video taping something that, if he had been any other "credentialed" journalist (think ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), would have been a non story. But because he's not part of the establishment media he gets treated like a pest. I'm personally glad he documents this type of behavior from average citizens towards other average citizens. These are the sociopathic nut jobs that rise to power and think they can tell everyone what to do whether it's justified or not and only because "they say so".

 

[MrTudo]

One of these days somebody's goin to lose their temper and punch some jerk like that out.

I will go on record right now that I'll send that person ( the supporter who punches the jerk out) $500.00

 

[Brian4Liberty]

"What are you gonna do about it? You gonna stop me?"

Where I'm from, those are fighting words.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Because I can see people entering the sidewalk from a public street without being checked for credentials, and because the angry little dictator told Ridley he could be there when quite clearly he didn't want to.

Where? We never see this. You're making multiple assumptions.

Yeah, and that's his right in a public place. Deal with it.

You were the one that claimed...

No, he just doesn't have to be standing near Ridley. Ridley wasn't even taping him until he flashed his credentials and told Ridley to get off the public sidewalk.

This was subsequently refuted as factually wrong in my post. If you're going to make condescending statements like "deal with it", try to follow your own posts. It's not that difficult.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

These are the sociopathic nut jobs that rise to power and think they can tell everyone what to do whether it's justified or not and only because "they say so".

Yeah, that college intern is clearly a sociopath (seeing as you're a psychologist that knows the kid so well you must know), and he needs to be the focus of our efforts.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Excuse me. Who was being confrontational in this situation?

If I'm just a guy outside on a public sidewalk taking stock footage for some video I'm making and some asshole comes up to me and tells me to stop taping for no reason and then tries to involve authorities to no avail, who is being confrontational? What if I'm not video taping at all and just taking mental images to remember later? Is looking at someone and taking a mental image being "confrontational", also? This guy was being your typical blow hard, jackass, authority figure, wanna-be and it backfired on him. He lost all credibility with the "yeah yeah, freedom" comment. What a jack ass.

This is in no way stating my opinion of Dave Ridley. I have seen his videos before and I have never seen any where he is blatantly being a dick (this does not mean they don't exist, only that if they do I have never seen them). They are always him video taping something that, if he had been any other "credentialed" journalist (think ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), would have been a non story. But because he's not part of the establishment media he gets treated like a pest. I'm personally glad he documents this type of behavior from average citizens towards other average citizens. These are the sociopathic nut jobs that rise to power and think they can tell everyone what to do whether it's justified or not and only because "they say so".

The guy might not be a great guy, but why act like it's a conspiracy? He tells you you're okay there and then politely requests that you stop filming, the one who makes an aggressive response is being confrontational, which is Ridley in this case. You can watch for your freedom without always getting defensive or confrontational when you are approached by someone who isn't particularly nice in your view. Ridley kept egging him on. It was absurd to just follow him like that after he walked away and just trying to be the martyr who got told off by some idiot. So what if the guy's an idiot? You're not a hero if you don't comply with him. You're either a jackass for having no respect, or you have your priorities wrong and are still a jackass because you don't know how to correctly handle a situation with another human being who is not trying to oppress you but is just generally being a jerk. There's no law against being a jerk, and there's no reason for someone to treat someone who's being a jerk like they're never going to stop being a jerk because they're "part of the system." That guy was obviously not part of the system and he wasn't even being a jerk toward the end. He just sighed like a man harrassed when Ridley started pressuring him. He just wanted to have his privacy respected and Ridley was just being confrontational so he said no because he felt like being a hero for nobody. What a fucking prick.

 

[123tim]

I can say with almost absolute certainly, that three possible votes for Ron Paul were lost on that day.

Those were votes for the future of my family. Those were votes for the future of whomever is reading this post right now.

Thank you Mr. Ridley.

 

[Lothario]

I try to keep hate out of the peace movement - but god I hate people like Ridley...or at least the actions of people like Ridley. It's an embarrassment to the whole liberty movement. If he has any shred of dignity left, he should take down the video. Everyone has a right to be an asshole, but that doesn't make it an effective or respectable quality. The world would be significantly more depressing than it already is if it was filled with Mr. Ridley's.

 

[Butchie]

More I'm seeing of this Ridley guy less I like him, newflash: yes, you have the right to annoy the hell out of people, I suppose, but they also have to right to say FU and F Ron Paul. Maybe stop saying Ron Pauls name if your going to be a jerk to people eh?

 

[centure7]

Ridley was harassed by someone who thought he owned the sidewalk, and it he *apparently* harassed the harasser back in revenge. But, until Ridley specifically says he did it for revenge I don't see why we can't give him the benefit of the doubt. While Ridley *may* have been an asshole may may not have been (as a justified revenge), we know the Democrat there certainly was being an asshole and NEVER apologized to Ridley.

 

[kylejack]

Where? We never see this. You're making multiple assumptions.

Well, I posted a picture earlier of a lady entering the sidewalk without being checked for credentials. Furthermore, no barricade has been erected to close the sidewalk.

This was subsequently refuted as factually wrong in my post. If you're going to make condescending statements like "deal with it", try to follow your own posts. It's not that difficult.

No, it wasn't refuted. This is a picture of the guy walking up to Ridley and flashing his credentials before telling him he can't be on the public sidewalk.

The audio before that comes from a tape recorder that Ridley runs.

 

[kylejack]

The guy might not be a great guy, but why act like it's a conspiracy? He tells you you're okay there and then politely requests that you stop filming, the one who makes an aggressive response is being confrontational, which is Ridley in this case.

Filming someone is not aggression. Filming is simply documenting what is happening.

There's no law against being a jerk, and there's no reason for someone to treat someone who's being a jerk like they're never going to stop being a jerk because they're "part of the system."

There's no law against taking video in public either, at least not in this circumstance.

He just wanted to have his privacy respected and Ridley was just being confrontational so he said no because he felt like being a hero for nobody. What a fucking prick.

As I mentioned before, there is no expectation of privacy in public. If this guy doesn't want to be filmed, he should probably just stay in his dorm. There were probably 3 or 4 surveillance cameras taping him at this moment.

 

[kylejack]

He's not an agent man. Just accept this and chill the fuck out. And yes, a lot of people don't like it when cameras are watching them for no reason.

Those people probably shouldn't leave their house, because dozens of surveillance cameras will record them in a typical day.

If the government puts a camera in your home do you defend them by saying it "only document what is happening."

No, because I have an expectation of privacy in my house. I don't have an expectation of privacy when I'm engaged with a conversation with someone in public, or indeed when I am even just in public.