"Democrat Dictator" tries to ban me from sidewalk @ GOP debate

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Why do people think Ron Paul supporters are idiots? Because a ton of them like the OP are.

It is a disconnection from reality really. A paranoia over useless rights, driven to the point of annoying people out of their minds.

Congrats, you just represented Ron Paul and made him look bad.

I guess David Ridley's motto can be "Free without Friends".

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

"If you don't want people to tape your irrationality"...? Who's being irrational? What's the irrational act committed here? Who brought what on whom? I tend to think the man taping everything and trying to start a confrontation was the one who had it coming. That guy was not aggressive at all and he just kept on acting like he was some authority telling him not to feed his children or something stupid like that. Who is he protecting by being an asshole on a sidewalk that has absolutely no government involvement? Here's a volunteer trying to do his job and not forcing anyone to do anything, and the guy acts like a simple request to turn off his camera is a threat or something. If I were him I would have been a lot less polite about it if some stranger started acting like that to me.

And Mr. Ridley was doing his job too. When a smug punk asked him to show his purple pass to stand on a side walk -- Who's the real asshole here?

 

[JK/SEA]

cockroaches hate the light.

Nice job Ridley.

 

[kylejack]

I don't get it. He admits, "You're good here." and indicates that he doesn't want to be filmed, but your reply is, "What are you gonna do about it? You gonna stop me?" Nice. No wonder people think we're a bunch of assholes.

A person in public has no expectation of privacy, and Ridley's a photography rights advocate.

 

[kylejack]

The guy was being a dick. Good job, Ridley.

 

[kylejack]

He works for the event as an intern, and part of his job is obviously to see if people have the proper clearance to get in.

You mean the event being held inside the building, not on a public sidewalk?

The intern asked if the guy had a pass, and he said he was not sure if he had the proper pass. The intern then said that he is pretty sure that he is supposed to leave

First he said he was pretty sure, then he told him he couldn't be up there.

if he is not sure, and then went and checked to see if it was ok. Once the intern was told it was alright to let the guy in, he let him in.

No, he didn't let him in. Ridley wasn't trying to enter the event, he was on a public sidewalk. The little dictator tried to get the cops to remove him and the cops probably told him it was a public sidewalk. This little dictator has no authority to "let him in" to a public sidewalk. If the sidewalk is still open to foot traffic, Ridley can be there.

THEN, a security guard started telling Ridley that he thinks it's the law that you can't tape someone who doesn't want to be taped. These idiots need to learn the law. If he doesn't want to be taped he shouldn't come up and order Ridley off a public sidewalk. He could simply walk off if he didn't want to be taped.

 

[roho76]

Nice rationalization. We all realize that blowback is a bitch, but one of these days we will understand that it works both ways.

I agree 100% with that statement. And thank you for the compliment.

"If you don't want people to tape your irrationality"...? Who's being irrational? What's the irrational act committed here? Who brought what on whom? I tend to think the man taping everything and trying to start a confrontation was the one who had it coming. That guy was not aggressive at all and he just kept on acting like he was some authority telling him not to feed his children or something stupid like that. Who is he protecting by being an asshole on a sidewalk that has absolutely no government involvement? Here's a volunteer trying to do his job and not forcing anyone to do anything, and the guy acts like a simple request to turn off his camera is a threat or something. If I were him I would have been a lot less polite about it if some stranger started acting like that to me.

The guy trying to remove Dave from the sidewalk was being irrational. It almost seemed like the guy knew who Dave was and just wanted to be a prick. He was not the focus of Dave's video until the guy started bitching. This is enough to warrant keeping a camera on the guy. What if he tried to attack him? You never know with some of these crazy freedom haters.

I can't believe you guys sympathize with this kind of thuggery. The guy was talking to just another citizen on his own level. That guy wasn't a cop or anything, he was just trying to help organize the event. I'm as much of an activist as the next guy, but I don't try to make it harder for those people. You could just see the frustration on his face because he was trying not get upset at the guy filming and just asking him politely to stop filming. I don't know why you defend this because the guy filming wasn't revealing any big government goon doing something corrupt. He was harrassing some dude who told him he could stand there and then yelled at him when he ASKED him to stop taping. He didn't order anyone to do anything. He was just trying to obtain his own privacy. The guy filming and poking around for trouble is just a low-life.

So now your a thug if your an alternative media press videographer supporting grassroots politics who won't allow "some guy" to remove you from a public sidewalk? Got it.

Isn't that the philosophy of the Ron Paul movement? Civil disobedience? He wasn't doing any thing wrong and that guy blew a gasket and asked a "cop" to have him removed and even the cop told him to get lost because there is nothing they can do.

 

[kylejack]

"If you don't want people to tape your irrationality"...? Who's being irrational? What's the irrational act committed here? Who brought what on whom? I tend to think the man taping everything and trying to start a confrontation was the one who had it coming.

This guy approached Ridley, Ridley did not approach him. This guy started the confrontation, if you can even call it that.

That guy was not aggressive at all and he just kept on acting like he was some authority telling him not to feed his children or something stupid like that. Who is he protecting by being an asshole on a sidewalk that has absolutely no government involvement? Here's a volunteer trying to do his job and not forcing anyone to do anything, and the guy acts like a simple request to turn off his camera is a threat or something. If I were him I would have been a lot less polite about it if some stranger started acting like that to me.

Oh, I see. You're one of those 'evil cameras' people. A camera keeps everyone accountable for their actions. It simply documents what is happening. Should I go walking down the sidewalk asking businesses to turn off their security cameras because I don't like to be filmed by evil cameras?

If the dude wanted to ask Ridley a favor he shouldn't have started by trying to order him off a public sidewalk.

 

[kylejack]

I can't believe you guys sympathize with this kind of thuggery.

Thuggery? What a joke.

This individual attempted to initiate force by trying to get the police to remove him from a public sidewalk. The police told him to scram. Dave simply documented what was happening.

He was just trying to obtain his own privacy. The guy filming and poking around for trouble is just a low-life.

There is no expectation of privacy in public. This guy came up to Ridley. If he didn't want to be filmed he didn't have to come running up the sidewalk to try and get Ridley to leave. Ridley had no interest in him until he started trying to flash his pass and control public space.

 

[roho76]

This guy approached Ridley, Ridley did not approach him. This guy started the confrontation, if you can even call it that.


Oh, I see. You're one of those 'evil cameras' people. A camera keeps everyone accountable for their actions. It simply documents what is happening. Should I go walking down the sidewalk asking businesses to turn off their security cameras because I don't like to be filmed by evil cameras?

If the dude wanted to ask Ridley a favor he shouldn't have started by trying to order him off a public sidewalk.

+rep

 

[Carehn]

You should have kicked his ass.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

You mean the event being held inside the building, not on a public sidewalk?

The area was stated to be blocked off.

First he said he was pretty sure, then he told him he couldn't be up there.

Neither of them were sure.

The little dictator tried to get the cops to remove him and the cops probably told him it was a public sidewalk.

We don't know how his conversation with the cops went. Stop talking out of your ass.

If the sidewalk is still open to foot traffic, Ridley can be there.

The area was stated to be blocked off.

THEN, a security guard started telling Ridley that he thinks it's the law that you can't tape someone who doesn't want to be taped. These idiots need to learn the law. If he doesn't want to be taped he shouldn't come up and order Ridley off a public sidewalk. He could simply walk off if he didn't want to be taped.

Yeah, he should just walk off his job site...

 

[Kregisen]

This ridley guy is an asshole....probably has no friends, that's why he's walking around outside with a video camera trying to get people pissed off for no reason at all.

Grow the fuck up.

 

[Lothario]

the original poster has to be one of the biggest assholes in the liberty movement. that's one of the problems with trying to affect social change through politics...I have to be associated with scumbags like this, just because of the label. embarrassing. makes all of our jobs that much harder.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

And Mr. Ridley was doing his job too. When a smug punk asked him to show his purple pass to stand on a side walk -- Who's the real asshole here?

The guy with the camera is being the real asshole. You're making all these subjective judgments on the guy like "smug" in order to justify harrassing this man. Do you treat salesmen the same way just because they're doing a job that isn't so popular? Do you treat them like tyrants? It doesn't make any sense to harrass someone like they're part of the state when they're not.

Do you treat your grandmother like that because she asks you to do something you don't want to do out of common courtesy? Do you treat her like that when she doesn't necessarily understand liiberty the way you and I do? I encourage everyone to take the path of kindness, even toward teh ignorant. This guy obviously has the opposite strategy. See how far that gets you.

 

[NidStyles]

The guy with the camera is being the real asshole. You're making all these subjective judgments on the guy like "smug" in order to justify harrassing this man. Do you treat salesmen the same way just because they're doing a job that isn't so popular? Do you treat them like tyrants? It doesn't make any sense to harrass someone like they're part of the state when they're not.

Do you treat your grandmother like that because she asks you to do something you don't want to do out of common courtesy? Do you treat her like that when she doesn't necessarily understand liiberty the way you and I do? I encourage everyone to take the path of kindness, even toward teh ignorant. This guy obviously has the opposite strategy. See how far that gets you.

Get off the Ron Paul forums then.

See how it is? A public forum, and someone with no authority to take away your right's to be here is telling you to leave....

Ridley is quirky, everyone that has seem his intro or any substantial amount of his material can tell you that. He certainly is not an asshole or smug though. It was clear from the second the video started that the guy was attempting taking away Ridley's right to be on public sidewalk where he had the right to film and stand. This whole thing never would have happened if the other guy hadn't approached him and told him he couldn't be there. I would have done the same thing, and I'm the furthest thing away from being a smug asshole. Maybe an arrogant prick, but certainly not a smug asshole.

 

[roho76]

Get off the Ron Paul forums then.

See how it is? A public forum, and someone with no authority to take away your right's to be here is telling you to leave...

Ridley is quirky, everyone that has seem his intro or any substantial amount of his material can tell you that. He certainly is not an asshole or smug though. It was clear from the second the video started that the guy was attempting taking away Ridley's right to be on public sidewalk where he had the right to film and stand. This whole thing never would have happened if the other guy hadn't approached him and told him he couldn't be there. I would have done the same thing, and I'm the furthest thing away from being a smug asshole. Maybe an arrogant prick, but certainly not a smug asshole.

This is not a public forum and is the sole property of its owners unlike the sidewalk.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Get off the Ron Paul forums then.

See how it is? A public forum, and someone with no authority to take away your right's to be here is telling you to leave....

Ridley is quirky, everyone that has seem his intro or any substantial amount of his material can tell you that. He certainly is not an asshole or smug though. It was clear from the second the video started that the guy was attempting taking away Ridley's right to be on public sidewalk where he had the right to film and stand. This whole thing never would have happened if the other guy hadn't approached him and told him he couldn't be there. I would have done the same thing, and I'm the furthest thing away from being a smug asshole. Maybe an arrogant prick, but certainly not a smug asshole.

I don't care if you tell me to leave. I can tell you to shut up, but that doesn't mean I have to stick a camera in your face and film you whatever you do. It's ridiculous to defend this sort of useless rebelliousness. If a guy asks you a favor on the street, you don't have to assume he's an agent for the elite who thinks he has authority. Maybe he's just a citizen who would like to be treated with respect and not like the enemy. You won't get anywhere with that attitude.

Not every favor some guy asks you on the street is an evil ploy to take a way your rights. The reaction the guy with the camera had was just way too overreactive and aggressive. The first part of the video with only sound was a clear example of propaganda. It wasn't even from that part of the video.

I mean, it doesn't mean you have to put up with people telling you where you can stand, but for heaven's sake, the guy told him "you're good here" and acknowledged that he couldn't tell him to move. Then he asks him a favor to stop filming and the guy gets all defensive and starts nagging the guy to death. I mean, would it hurt you to just walk away from that situation? Why try to attract so much attention? Why do people make a challenege out of a request in order to prove a useless point? You don't have to be testy all the time in order to defend liberty. Sometimes it's better to just walk away. It's not like that was going to be a pivotal moment for the revolution. If anything, it was counter-productive. And then the guy comes on here bragging about how he was just told to do something by a Democrat statist. It's jsut pure nonsense. Don't engage in this kind of stupid, arrogant prank. If a guy asks you to leave and you don't see any reason to stay, why stay if it's not a cop trying to keep you away from a scene or something? They're telling you for their own eas, not to take away your rights.

I can't even stress enough how dumb and stupid this was. Don't be an asshole, kids.

 

[kylejack]

The area was stated to be blocked off.

The street may have been closed, but the sidewalk was not.

We don't know how his conversation with the cops went. Stop talking out of your ass.

This gent was talking out of his ass when he said he couldn't be up there without a pass, on a public sidewalk that was open to foot traffic.

Yeah, he should just walk off his job site...

No, he just doesn't have to be standing near Ridley. Ridley wasn't even taping him until he flashed his credentials and told Ridley to get off the public sidewalk.

 

[kylejack]

I don't care if you tell me to leave. I can tell you to shut up, but that doesn't mean I have to stick a camera in your face and film you whatever you do.

Oh, the "stick a camera in your face" nonsense. Ridley was several feet away at all times and never advanced on the guy. PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE EVIL CAMERAS THAT MERELY DOCUMENT WHAT IS HAPPENING.

It's ridiculous to defend this sort of useless rebelliousness. If a guy asks you a favor on the street, you don't have to assume he's an agent for the elite who thinks he has authority.

But he already demonstrated that he thinks he has authority and tried to order Ridley off a public sidewalk.