Delegates in NV - GOOD NEWS!

[m4ff3w]

My precinct in Pahrump Nevada: 5 of 5 delegates for Ron Paul, 5 of 5 alternates for Ron Paul. We also got a Ron Paul majority in every other precinct in Pahrump. We also beat Romney and spanked McCain in the straw poll. Pahrump Nevada chooses freedom!!! Thanks to a lot of really hard work by a lot of dedicated people, and two visits to our town by Ron Paul.

Thanks for your work out there.

 

[tomveil]

I have posted a longer response in one of the many numerous posts like this.. Getting sleepy so here it is again, in short. With such a large amont of PD you can assume a large amount of CD, in turn giving you a large amount of ND... Mitt will probably get 18 to 20+ delegates, maybe more. There will be some flux due to county makeup, and if some candidates drop out, but most likely that would benefit MR, not RP.

Now stop it! It is not negative to know how the system works...

But you don't know the # of PDs, which is my whole point. The straw poll %s has NO CORRELATION to the # of PDs. Once you realize that, the rest of your argument is correct.

We have significantly more than 14% of the PDs.

 

[fmontez]

What county is Pahrump in?

-Chris

Oh, and good work!

That is very good, gives us some solid county delegates.

 

[fmontez]

But you don't know the # of PDs, which is my whole point. The straw poll %s has NO CORRELATION to the # of PDs. Once you realize that, the rest of your argument is correct.

We have significantly more than 14% of the PDs.

As I said there will be some flux in counties and such.. it's a numbers game... I totally admit there could be a slight flux, but to say that the voting is not important is just not true. Look at the poster directly before this post, sounds like his whole county is RP strong... plus the delegates can vote any way they like.. so Mitt could get arrested for child porn between now and the county vote... but all things considered Mitt will walk away with most of the delegates.

 

[tomveil]

As I said there will be some flux in counties and such.. it's a numbers game... I totally admit there could be a slight flux, but to say that the voting is not important is just not true. Look at the poster directly before this post, sounds like his whole county is RP strong... plus the delegates can vote any way they like.. so Mitt could get arrested for child porn between now and the county vote... but all things considered Mitt will walk away with most of the delegates.

*baffled*

Look at the reports of the actual delegates. Compare to straw poll %.

Post again.

 

[robr]

Could someone explain this in lay terms so I can explain to people like my Dad in FL how it's possible RP could win NV? He's one of the idiots with the mindset 'I like him, but he can't win, so I'm going to vote for someone else.' I've encountered this mentality a number of times and can use more ammo to try to beat down that stupidity. I think being able to explain how RP might still win NV could help.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/018753.html

As with Iowa, the Nevada GOP Precinct caucuses are electing delegates to the County Conventions. That is all. No national delegates are allocated in today's caucuses. If the Nevada GOP were electing delegates to the national convention, they would have been penalized as were WY, NH, MI, SC, and FL. The March 5 county conventions will elect delegates to the April 26 state convention. Only then are the national convention delegates are elected.

Delegates elected today were unpledged. According to early reports, the Ron Paul delegate candidates did much better than the 13% received by Paul in the poll. In many precincts, Paul delegates WON OUTRIGHT MAJORITIES. The campaign is currently compiling precinct reports from around the state, but that may take a few days.


MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOUR STATE'S RULES ON ELECTING DELEGATES AND MAKE SURE YOU PARTICIPATE. THAT'S THE KEY

 

[RonPaulFTW08]

As I said there will be some flux in counties and such.. it's a numbers game... I totally admit there could be a slight flux, but to say that the voting is not important is just not true. Look at the poster directly before this post, sounds like his whole county is RP strong... plus the delegates can vote any way they like.. so Mitt could get arrested for child porn between now and the county vote... but all things considered Mitt will walk away with most of the delegates.

OK can we at least all agree on TWO THINGS?
1. Ron Paul placed 2nd in NV, better than he's ever did in the past, and let's all just hope it keeps getting better and better.
2. Mitt could get arrested for child porn b/t now and the county vote
3. Giuliani sucks as$. I saw ONE "join rudy" sign the other day in Orange County, CA. I swiped it haha... and as soon as my Ron Paul stickers come in I'm gonna do a little bit of redecorating on that sign and put it right back where I found it

 

[Hook]

What county is Pahrump in?

-Chris

Oh, and good work!

It is in Nye county. That is where Art Bell lives. You know, the "Kingdom of Nye".

 

[Hook]

As I said there will be some flux in counties and such.. it's a numbers game... I totally admit there could be a slight flux, but to say that the voting is not important is just not true. Look at the poster directly before this post, sounds like his whole county is RP strong... plus the delegates can vote any way they like.. so Mitt could get arrested for child porn between now and the county vote... but all things considered Mitt will walk away with most of the delegates.

The thing is the straw poll today is NON-BINDING. Since no other group of people had many precinct delegates volunteers, we have the actual majority of them. So when it comes time to elect County, State, and finally National delegates, we will have the controlling vote along the way.

 

[tomveil]

The thing is the straw poll today is NON-BINDING. Since no other group of people had many precinct delegates volunteers, we have the actual majority of them. So when it comes time to elect County, State, and finally National delegates, we will have the controlling vote along the way.

Exactly!

 

[FacelessJoe]

Yea, I'd love some explaining in laymen terms. Politically, I don't know how the system works, and I need this to explain to other people so I can make an attempt to convince them that Ron Paul can win. Any help?

 

[JustBcuz]

Could someone explain this in lay terms so I can explain to people like my Dad in FL how it's possible RP could win NV? He's one of the idiots with the mindset 'I like him, but he can't win, so I'm going to vote for someone else.' I've encountered this mentality a number of times and can use more ammo to try to beat down that stupidity. I think being able to explain how RP might still win NV could help.

OK the vote #'s mean nothing. It's a straw poll, supposedly a gauge of support.

Who actually decides who's going to get the nomination is the delegates. Those are the guys you see on TV at the Republican National Convention.

What varies is how each state chooses those delegates. In a regular primary, everyone votes and then the delegates are divided by the voting %s, or maybe it's winner take all, like Florida.

In Nevada, for the first time ever, we had a caucus.

In a caucus, each precinct elects delegates to go to the County Convention. The delegates at the County Convention select the delegates to the State Convention. The delegates at the State Convention select the delegates to the National Convention. THE DELEGATES AT THE NATIONAL CONVENTION CAST THE VOTES FOR THE NOMINATION. It's like a bunch of mini-elections. We elected 6 delegates in my precinct, from 11 attendees. Three of them are Ron Paul delegates.

The delegates are the ones with the power.

Let me tell you. We did VERY well electing delegates. We have MAJORITIES of delegates coming out of very heavily Romney precincts.

Not everyone attending was aware of this. In most precincts you could be a delegate just by raising your hand.

We had superior organization. We did well. If the GOP plays by the rules, we will deliver much more than 4 delegates to the National Convention.

 

[RonPaulFTW08]

OK the vote #'s mean nothing. It's a straw poll, supposedly a gauge of support.

Who actually decides who's going to get the nomination is the delegates. Those are the guys you see on TV at the Republican National Convention.

What varies is how each state chooses those delegates. In a regular primary, everyone votes and then the delegates are divided by the voting %s, or maybe it's winner take all, like Florida.

In Nevada, for the first time ever, we had a caucus.

In a caucus, each precinct elects delegates to go to the County Convention. The delegates at the County Convention select the delegates to the State Convention. The delegates at the State Convention select the delegates to the National Convention. THE DELEGATES AT THE NATIONAL CONVENTION CAST THE VOTES FOR THE NOMINATION. It's like a bunch of mini-elections. We elected 6 delegates in my precinct, from 11 attendees. Three of them are Ron Paul delegates.

The delegates are the ones with the power.

Let me tell you. We did VERY well electing delegates. We have MAJORITIES of delegates coming out of very heavily Romney precincts.

Not everyone attending was aware of this. In most precincts you could be a delegate just by raising your hand.

We had superior organization. We did well. If the GOP plays by the rules, we will deliver much more than 4 delegates to the National Convention.

I kind of understand that. Naturally the next question is - who is keeping track of the official number of delegates elected in NV? I know we are keeping a tally in one of the threads.. hopefully someone will add all that up sometime over the weekend?

 

[JustBcuz]

I kind of understand that. Naturally the next question is - who is keeping track of the official number of delegates elected in NV? I know we are keeping a tally in one of the threads.. hopefully someone will add all that up sometime over the weekend?

Oh man thats a zoo.

There are tons of delegates. PLUS Nevada's delegates are unbound, we can change our minds at any time we want.

The campaign has an idea of how it went...but nobody, not us, not Romney, not Duncan Hunter, actually knows the count.

We won't actually know what we've got for MONTHS.

Edit to add: there are literally THOUSANDS of precinct delegates.

 

[fmontez]

OK can we at least all agree on TWO THINGS?
1. Ron Paul placed 2nd in NV, better than he's ever did in the past, and let's all just hope it keeps getting better and better.
2. Mitt could get arrested for child porn b/t now and the county vote
3. Giuliani sucks as$. I saw ONE "join rudy" sign the other day in Orange County, CA. I swiped it haha... and as soon as my Ron Paul stickers come in I'm gonna do a little bit of redecorating on that sign and put it right back where I found it

1. Yes Paul did 2nd in NV which is better than 3rd. Although I noticed that my local news called it a tie.
2. Mitt could get arrested for something
3. Rudy will lose FL

 

[dfalken]

1. Yes Paul did 2nd in NV which is better than 3rd. Although I noticed that my local news called it a tie.
2. Mitt could get arrested for something
3. Rudy will lose FL

Did you finally understand why Ron Paul might have won Nevada (in terms of delegates) even though Mitt Romney won the caucus?

 

[Basilieus]

Is this only for Caucasus? or for the same as Primaries?

 

[morerocklesstalk]

The delegates will not be as disproportionate as the straw poll. In every precinct I saw Ron Paul delegates, my precinct was the lowest being as I was the only RP supporter hence only 1 delegate.

 

[Voodoo]

Nevada Takes First Step in Caucus
http://freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-Article.htm?InfoNo=029090

 

[Carole]

How did the voting for these delegates actually work?

How did they get elected delegates if there were more people there, say from the Romney voters to vote for their own delegates? This is the part that is really most confusing?