OK. Have it your way and I'll write down the obvious.
Santa lives at the north pole. The north pole exists in the real world, no? Does it make Santa real? Obviously no.
Logical fail. People knew about the north pole prior to the story of Santa living there. On the other hand if you found archeological evidence of a tiny toy factory that's been there at least as long as the legend of Santa you might be on to something. Applying your false analogy to the Bible, I'm not saying the evidence of the Red Sea points to Biblical truth.
But evidence of the existence of archeological sites that skeptics such as yourself used to claim didn't exist goes to proof.
V for vendetta is a movie, a fairy tale, no?. But it predicts a future of citizens giving up their rights for safety out of fear of some major catastrophic event and in the process being oppressed by a lunatic power hungry politician. - When and if this really happens, as it looks like it will, are you going to claim the movie predicted the future and therefor it must not be a fairy tale but a prophecy and the writer of the script must be a prophet? Or is he just someone he made a good educated guess and used a little bit of imagination a long with it to create a nice moral story?
Ummm....it already happened before the movie. 9/11 happened and Bush got more power. Of course the V graphic novel was predated 9/11. But you can go all the way back to Hitler and the burning of the Reishstag to again see the same "prediction" had already happened in history. Fiction based on analogies to past historical events does not count as prophecy. On the other hand predicting the effect of a cashless society nearly 2,000 years before that happened and well before there was any technology that could have led to that is an entirely different category altogether. So logical fail # 2.
Now if you wanted to come up with a halfway decent argument you could go with 1984. It certainly predicted things like a surveillance society long before they happened. But the technology existed at the time of the writing of 1984 and the plans for such a society were already being discussed by elites such as H.G. Wells who wrote the book "The New World Order". So for George Orwell to look at existing technology, and read up on people who were saying "We'd like to create a one world totalitarian state" and put two and two together was not extraordinary. On the other hand for John who was living in a world empire that was
NOT able to completely control world commerce to predict that such a feat would happen 2,000 years prior is a whole different ball of wax.
Same here. You can find a dozen of modern movies that show science fiction on the topic of science and health that we didn't have yet or didn't understand yet, The Terminator comes to mind for example, where in a obvious fairy tale a robot looking like a human travels through time to kill someone where back in 1984 when the movie was released it was probably deemed fiction of us ever being able to produce such a machine we're almost there today. So again, is the author of that move a prophet for writing a fictional script that just so happens to be slowly becoming a reality and a general knowledge?
We're almost to time travel? Really? Citation please or this is logical fail # 3. If you're talking about the robot itself, Disney had animatronic robots years before the terminator, the field of robotics was and is growing exponentially, and there are a lot of secret projects that the general public may not know about but that get leaked to script writers. Nobody in their right mind would have thought the possibility of a walking talking robot in the future was a fairy tail. Logical fail # 4.
And most importantly what do any of these truer aspects of The Bible have to do with the story of god, angels, miracles, Christ rising from the dead, of heaven, of hell and of a holy spirit???
Again, you're shifting gears away from the hypothesis I attacked to your main hypothesis that you haven't proven and that I haven't dis-proven. Logical fail # 5. The whole point of the "fairy tale" argument that you are putting forward and that was advanced by the movie Zeitgeist which you like so much isn't simply that Jesus didn't rise from the dead, but that Jesus never existed at all. Your claim, and theirs, is that the Bible was made up out of whole cloth. So if someone proves the existence of Jesus the "fairy tale" claim falls, even if certain aspects of Jesus cannot be proven. That's why the fairy tale claim is so lame. Really, your side tries to claim the idea of crucifixion was plagiarized from India and other places when India never used crucifixion as a means of capital punishment, but Rome did.
Again, to keep this simple for you, I'm not claiming to have proven that the Bible is 100% true. I'm claiming to have proven that it wasn't simply made up out of thin air like a fairy tale. When you have to say stuff to back up your claim like the north pole is some kind of archeological site that should tell you something.
Face it. You got duped by a fairy tale for fear of the pain of your mortality and for the comfort in a promise of an afterlife full of pleasure and you surrendered your common sense to a few unelected group of MEN in the process.
Face it. You've been outdone by someone you feel is a "dupe" using the scientific method you love so much. I will concede that your arguments didn't come from any group of "men" atheist or otherwise. I doubt you would find any scholars anywhere who would sign on to an argument where you have to pretend the north pole = ancient Biblical archeological sites being found in order to try to support it.
