Deep sea submersible with up to five passengers and crew missing on Titanic wreck dive

[Anti Federalist]

Underwater Vessel Goes Missing During Expedition to Titanic

https://www.breitbart.com/local/2023/06/19/underwater-vessel-goes-missing-during-expedition-titanic/

ELAINE MALLON 19 Jun 2023

A submersible touring the shipwrecked Titanic went missing around 370 miles off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada.

The Boston Coast Guard deployed a search and rescue team on Monday. It is unknown how many people are aboard the Titan, which belongs to OceanGate Expeditions, CBS News reported.

“Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families,” OceanGate stated, adding that they are “deeply thankful for the extensive assistance we have received from several government agencies and deep sea companies in our efforts to reestablish contact with the submersible.”

The private company offers expeditions, research and data collection, deep sea testing, and now underwater tourism.

The company has other expeditions planned, according to OceanGate, which charges up to $250,000 a person for the excursion. Dives can last up to ten hours each, the Daily Mail reported.

The submersible can hold five people — breaking down to three guests, a pilot and a “content expert,” BBC reported. It is the only 5-person vessel that can reach the Titanic, which lies 2.4 miles below the ocean’s surface. CBS News’s Sunday Mornings correspondent David Pogue described the vessel as no bigger than a minivan.

The vessel operates using a touch screen and computers, and there is only one switch used to turn the vessel on, according to CEO Stockton Rush.

“There’s no switches and things to bump into, we have one button to turn it on,” Rush said.

The vessel relies on Elon Musk’s company Starlink for communication during the expeditions.

 

[jmdrake]

The vessel operates using a touch screen and computers, and there is only one switch used to turn the vessel on, according to CEO Stockton Rush.

“There’s no switches and things to bump into, we have one button to turn it on,” Rush said.

The vessel relies on Elon Musk’s company Starlink for communication during the expeditions.

Everything 100% computer controlled. What could possibly go wrong? Then again if something goes wrong, what can you possibly do to fix it? W

 

[sparebulb]

There is no way I would ever get in that thing.

Of all things that would need a manual override to open and close valves, it would be a submarine.

This could be some delectable Darwinism when these brainiacs eliminate themselves with their technology.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

There is no way I would ever get in that thing.

Of all things that would need a manual override to open and close valves, it would be a submarine.

This could be some delectable Darwinism when these brainiacs eliminate themselves with their technology.

I don't know, let's put that first. But, I can see how it would be safer.

Every valve is a potential fail-point, where things can leak, and it has to pass through the hull. If there's only one electrical cable, you've reduced the number of failure points. Now, I think this thing would have an emergency weight at the bottom that can be released to surface, that one I would definitely nominate for a physical switch/release.

 

[donnay]

British Billionaire is on board...hmm.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/WFLAJosh/status/1671358227135463425

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/WFLAJosh/status/1671358233330548738

 

[Occam's Banana]

Missing sub used $30 video game controller
The missing submarine taking tourists to explore the sunken remains of the Titanic is still missing since 6AM on Sunday. The Ocean Gate submersible, Titan, is said to have 96 hour oxygen supply for five people. But now the discussion is about the subs $30 Logitech video game controller, and how a $250,000 ticket resulted in this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzY55RMWUUA

 

[dannno]

Missing sub used $30 video game controller
The missing submarine taking tourists to explore the sunken remains of the Titanic is still missing since 6AM on Sunday. The Ocean Gate submersible, Titan, is said to have 96 hour oxygen supply for five people. But now the discussion is about the subs $30 Logitech video game controller, and how a $250,000 ticket resulted in this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzY55RMWUUA

I think you'd have to pay me at least $250k to go down there in that thing.

 

[TheTexan]

Why dont they just get out and swim to the top. Do they not know how to swim

 

[RJB]

 

[jmdrake]

Damn! Too soon!

Okay. I wasn't going to say this yet but...think of the similarities. The names "Titanic" verses "Titan." Both were supposed to be unsinkable engineering marvels. I'm guessing the sub lacks any sort of "escape pod" or "escape hatch" just like the Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats. And rich people on board. Anyhow...I hope they make it somehow.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Damn! Too soon!

Okay. I wasn't going to say this yet but...think of the similarities. The names "Titanic" verses "Titan." Both were supposed to be unsinkable engineering marvels. I'm guessing the sub lacks any sort of "escape pod" or "escape hatch" just like the Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats. And rich people on board. Anyhow...I hope they make it somehow.

It has several layers of drop-weights so it can resurface using its own buoyancy. Apparently even an automatic one in case everyone inside is unconscious. If that system was operational, the sub should be floating somewhere on the surface. I think it's more likely they drowned/crushed by a leak. A complete electrical failure would be the only other possible option really. Then they might be sitting somewhere on the ocean floor, idle. If they were just 'stuck' they probably could have still communicated so that's unlikely. Also, it apparently takes around 4hrs to dive down all the way, they got lost after 1 1/2 ? So they were not at full depth when contact was lost. I'm going to go with they have died instantly or quite soon after contact was lost.

 

[Anti Federalist]

50 and 60 year old white guys...JFC.

I worked my whole life at sea, I never have had any other type of job.

Greenhorn, deck hand able seaman, engineer, mate, captain, Master.

In my teens and twenties in my first commands, I made my share of mistakes, some just dumb, some from my ego writing checks my body could not cash, some just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A couple of them required life or death effort on my part to press through and not get anything wrecked or anybody killed.

15 or so years ago, with that seasoning under my belt, I focused and trained on a niche of maritime work very similar to this, in the offshore oilfield, which is one of the most risk averse work environments in the world. Astronauts do not have as many checklists as sub sea deepwater ROV operations and equipment placement does.

You MUST do it right, every single fucking time, or doom on you. Everything is watched, everything is recorded, in that pilothouse alongside a billion dollar facility with hundreds of lives and trillions of dollars in the balance, as you maneuver a 400 foot vessel weighing ten thousand tons, to within ten feet and stay there, there is no room for any mistakes. Or to "fly" remote submersibles or support deep diving work. One fuckup is all it takes, so there can never be that one fuckup.

Ever.

And until the end of my career, that's what I did.

For another roughly 15 years.

And I'm proud to say I got it done without one single major incident of any kind.

And that's why you want a 60 year old white man piloting your plane, doing your open heart surgery, or conning your ultra deep submersible, and not some cute 25 year old diversity hire, fresh out of marine biology school.

 

[jmdrake]

It has several layers of drop-weights so it can resurface using its own buoyancy. Apparently even an automatic one in case everyone inside is unconscious. If that system was operational, the sub should be floating somewhere on the surface. I think it's more likely they drowned/crushed by a leak. A complete electrical failure would be the only other possible option really. Then they might be sitting somewhere on the ocean floor, idle. If they were just 'stuck' they probably could have still communicated so that's unlikely. Also, it apparently takes around 4hrs to dive down all the way, they got lost after 1 1/2 ? So they were not at full depth when contact was lost. I'm going to go with they have died instantly or quite soon after contact was lost.

Thank you for the additional information. Bottom line is that it sounds lke the "idiot proof" sub wasn't. The possiblity of a complete eletrical failure with no manual override? Wow. Hoping for the best!

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Thank you for the additional information. Bottom line is that it sounds lke the "idiot proof" sub wasn't. The possiblity of a complete eletrical failure with no manual override? Wow. Hoping for the best!

As this sort of thing is in my interest, I have been watching some news on it now. There is a possibility that they lost comms, the safety system worked and they're floating somewhere in the waves. One good argument in favour of that appears to be that the temperature gradient that's quite sudden between the warm top layer and the cold bottom layer is good at insulating sounds so it's more likely the sound came from (close to) the surface.

Another good argument made by an ex navy rescue diver is that this hull is stressed quite heavily every time it dives... But then why are they hearing knocking sounds every half hour. Or is that something people might have wanted to hear and the media ran with it ? We'll find out soon I guess.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

50 and 60 year old white guys...JFC.

I worked my whole life at sea, I never have had any other type of job.

Greenhorn, deck hand able seaman, engineer, mate, captain, Master.

In my teens and twenties in my first commands, I made my share of mistakes, some just dumb, some from my ego writing checks my body could not cash, some just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A couple of them required life or death effort on my part to press through and not get anything wrecked or anybody killed.

15 or so years ago, with that seasoning under my belt, I focused and trained on a niche of maritime work very similar to this, in the offshore oilfield, which is one of the most risk averse work environments in the world. Astronauts do not have as many checklists as sub sea deepwater ROV operations and equipment placement does.

You MUST do it right, every single fucking time, or doom on you. Everything is watched, everything is recorded, in that pilothouse alongside a billion dollar facility with hundreds of lives and trillions of dollars in the balance, as you maneuver a 400 foot vessel weighing ten thousand tons, to within ten feet and stay there, there is no room for any mistakes. Or to "fly" remote submersibles or support deep diving work. One fuckup is all it takes, so there can never be that one fuckup.

Ever.

And until the end of my career, that's what I did.

For another roughly 15 years.

And I'm proud to say I got it done without one single major incident of any kind.

And that's why you want a 60 year old white man piloting your plane, doing your open heart surgery, or conning your ultra deep submersible, and not some cute 25 year old diversity hire, fresh out of marine biology school.

Can't rep unfortunatly.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Thank you for the additional information. Bottom line is that it sounds lke the "idiot proof" sub wasn't. The possiblity of a complete eletrical failure with no manual override? Wow. Hoping for the best!

The ones I have worked with had buoyancy compensation weights that were self releasing via mechanical means.

In a worse case scenario, assuming the pressure hull was not flooded, when the weight settled on the sea floor it would toggle self-releasing hooks that would disconnect the weight from the ROV and allow it to re-float to the surface.

 

[Anti Federalist]