Deace: Huckabee will run in 2016

[jjdoyle]

Huckabee's big gov't sins are numerous and well documented. In a GOP that is now largely about limiting government Huckabee will have a hell of a hard time winning states outside the bible belt.

Since when did Republicans care about "big gov't sins"? The majority of them don't. Mitt Romney, John McCain, Rick Santorum, and the plethora of other Republican candidates have had those exact issues, and worse. Yet, they fall behind them just fine.

Newt Gingrich, divorced how many times? Won what "Bible belt" state? South Carolina?

If Rand can't win in Iowa or the "Bible belt", where will he be able to win? New Jersey against Chris Christie?

 

[Ender]

Deace: Huckabee will run in 2016

I think I'm gonna be sick.

 

[Rocco]

Read every single opinion poll of GOP voters taken since 2010. Limiting government is the mainstream GOP voters #1 issue.

I don't see that.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I do not like this news.

 

[jjdoyle]

Deace: Huckabee will run in 2016

I think I'm gonna be sick.

Why?

Read every single opinion poll of GOP voters taken since 2010. Limiting government is the mainstream GOP voters #1 issue.

And yet, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Rick Santorum got more popular votes in 2012 than Ron Paul. I guess their definition of "limiting government", is quite broad?

 

[jjdoyle]

*can delete this, looked for option, didn't see it.

 

[Rocco]

The party has changed profoundly in recent years. Yes Romney did win, but 70% of the GOP voted against him right up until he became "inevitable". GOPers wont give McCain the time of day anymore. Things have changed a lot.

As for your Newt and Rand comments, nobody said non hardcore social cons cant win these states, I am saying I don't see Huckabee being able to win outside of them. I cannot imagine a scenario where Huckabee is competitive, for example, in New Hampshire (or anywhere in the northeast or west coast for that matter). Rand, on the other hand, does not have these geographic limitations.

Since when did Republicans care about "big gov't sins"? The majority of them don't. Mitt Romney, John McCain, Rick Santorum, and the plethora of other Republican candidates have had those exact issues, and worse. Yet, they fall behind them just fine.

Newt Gingrich, divorced how many times? Won what "Bible belt" state? South Carolina?

If Rand can't win in Iowa or the "Bible belt", where will he be able to win? New Jersey against Chris Christie?

 

[erowe1]

Read every single opinion poll of GOP voters taken since 2010. Limiting government is the mainstream GOP voters #1 issue.

And yet they nominated Romney in 2012.

If Huckabee had run, he would have beaten Romney.

 

[jjdoyle]

The party has changed profoundly in recent years. Yes Romney did win, but 70% of the GOP voted against him right up until he became "inevitable". GOPers wont give McCain the time of day anymore. Things have changed a lot.

Mitt Romney won the primary with more than 50% of the popular votes. A higher percentage than John McCain, who didn't even hit 50% in 2008. He was the only "inevitable" candidate for the entire 2012 race.

But saying GOPers won't give McCain a chance, yet he is still in office, I think is a bit ironic. He was re-elected in 2010, by more than 50% of the GOP voters in his area. The majority of your GOP voters do not know what they care for, they are simply sheep. But Rand will definitely need to win in New Hampshire, if he loses in Iowa. Which, is possible looking at the numbers I think. But with states like North Carolina having their primary earlier now, that one will likely favor Mike Huckabee, instead of being in May and not even mattering. 2016 could be really different with a state like NC voting A LOT earlier than normal.

 

[TaftFan]

Well, now we learn Huckabee won't be renewing his radio show.

 

[Lord Xar]

Most U.S. 'Christians' don't care about Middle East Christians being persecuted. Mainline Evangelicals want: Israel worship, war with Iran, support the troops, and kill the gays -- in that order.

I think James nailed it. I think Huckabee is just a spoiler for the momentum Rand or Cruz will initiate coming out of Iowa. After that, they will dump on him and praise Christie. Same fucking script every 4 years. Yet, voters do not wise up.

 

[jjdoyle]

Well, now we learn Huckabee won't be renewing his radio show.

Here, for those wondering what you're talking about:
hxxp://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/mike-huckabee-radio-show-ends-100437.html

 

[Miss Annie]

Evangelicals like Freedom Fanatic and I don't want any of that, and people like us are growing in number. And no, Evangelicals do care about persecution worldwide, every Sunday at my church someone prays for the persecuted church. And I don't know anyone who actually wants to kill gays, in fact there isn't a single Christian majority nation that proscribes the death penalty for sodomy.

I totally agree with this. Sadly, I think there are a lot of misconceptions here about Christians. I know there are some Christians that make us look bad, like Westboro, but that is not how the majority of Evangelicals think. Most evangelicals would get behind Rand to take marriage out of the government to get rid of the legality of gay marriage. Most Christians do care very much about the persecution of the Christians in the ME. Most evangelicals do care very much about Israel, but are also smart enough to see that our presence in the ME is doing more harm than good to Israel.

I think one think that evangelicals are iffy about is the lack of concern for the Muslim Brotherhood's activity in our government. Now please do not misinterpret that....... I do NOT mean ALL muslims in general....... The Brotherhood is a very different organization and is supportive of radicalization.

 

[devil21]

Is the GOP trying to look like a friggin joke? Huck and Christie both on the debate stage? How much easier can the GOP make it for the Dems to call us "rich white fat cats" and the like?

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Most Christians do care very much about the persecution of the Christians in the ME. Most evangelicals do care very much about Israel, but are also smart enough to see that our presence in the ME is doing more harm than good to Israel.

Then why do most of their voters continue to vote for war mongers?

 

[erowe1]

Then why do most of their voters continue to vote for war mongers?

I don't think that choosing warmongers like Romney and McCain over a warmonger like Obama indicates much about the foreign policy persuasions of those evangelicals, especially when the main reasons they have for that decision are based on other issues, very often ones where they (rightly or wrongly) perceive the McCain/Romney types to be more for limiting government than Obama.

 

[Keith and stuff]

A social con and tax increasing fiscal moderate. I'd rather have Romney or Huntsman.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Ugh...I see the Stupid Party is all set to replay 2008/2012.

Christie will end up getting the nomination.

And All Hail President Hillary.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

I don't think that choosing warmongers like Romney and McCain over a warmonger like Obama indicates much about the foreign policy persuasions of those evangelicals, especially when the main reasons they have for that decision are based on other issues, very often ones where they (rightly or wrongly) perceive the McCain/Romney types to be more for limiting government than Obama.

Granted I'm stereotyping here, but these voters tend to view Obama as a pussy because he didn't publicly advocate for the full-on ground war/bombing campaign that McCain and Romney wanted in Iran. So no, I don't believe that the evangelical voters knew all along that they were cornered into a "lesser of the 2 evils" scenario.

 

[anaconda]

That would be good. He'd divide the evangelical vote with Cruz, leaving Paul as the clear leader of the pack.

I was hoping Cruz would debate through December 2015, than drop out and endorse Rand. Rand seems to very much want the evangelical vote. But I fear Huckster will only throw his delegates at whatever candidate represents a GOP "healing consolidation" (aka Christie or Jeb).