Damn I love debating liberals!

[rp4prez]

http ://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1886589

Bet you can tell who I am. lol

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Going to translate how mentally bankrupt some of those people are...

Quotes from that thread:

I'm tired of people b*tching and moaning about the state of affairs and how the government is doing this and that - when we basically don't have another hand to play. If you feel so strongly that this isn't the way, come up with a GOOD plan. And no, just tax cuts aren't going to fly. Tell me how YOU would manage to save this country from it's recent history (beyond Bush). If you can't give me that, DRINK YOUR DAMN TEA AT HOME AND SHUT THE ____ UP.

"Leave the poor government alone! Too many people are complaining about how the Republicans and now the Democrats can't get anything right! Their trying their hardest so shut up, people like you who complain are whats wrong with this country!"

Honestly, I think these tea parties are pretty lame.

Since there aren't really enough eye-rolling icons in the world, I will refrain from posting my own thoughts and simply c&p this wonderful editorial on the subject from the L.A. Times.

"I'm going to let some guy at the LA Times do my thinking for me."

I'm sure you're absolutely right. Because of anyone out there, you are definitely the person whose opinion I would take on anything requiring more than two seconds of thought. A random guy who hangs out in communities where he's generally disliked, posting to get a reaction, trying to convert people to his brand of koolaid. Definitely more trustworthy, and clearly more intelligent.

(you were too polite with this guy)
"I'd rather listen to the experts on television and in Washington, who have been just oh so spot on in the past. Since I'm completely incapable of debating economics with you, I'm just going to resort to flames and dismiss you as "some guy on the interweb". Haha, take that I win!"

 

[LittleLightShining]

Go here: http://greenmountaindaily.com/diary/4356/teabagging-vermont-styleThese guys are animals.

 

[rp4prez]

(you were too polite with this guy)
"I'd rather listen to the experts on television and in Washington, who have been just oh so spot on in the past. Since I'm completely incapable of debating economics with you, I'm just going to resort to flames and dismiss you as "some guy on the interweb". Haha, take that I win!"

Man you seriously had me cracking up! Thanks! hahaha...

But you're probably right too night with that one guy. However, I'd rather kill them with kindness and hope that others on the forum see how those jerks are acting and actually speak up or at least realize how stupid those jerks are acting towards me. lol

I always try to remember when responding, "how would Dr. Paul respond?"

 

[rp4prez]

Go here: http://greenmountaindaily.com/diary/4356/teabagging-vermont-styleThese guys are animals.

lol... that guy is insane. I can't believe people say and think that way.

I especially like this comment:

some blatantly anti-gay comments were being said over the loudspeaker, but I can't confirm that first hand.

Like someone said in the comments below "provide proof." If he can't confirm it he shouldn't report it. Wow.. still amazed.

 

[dannno]

Buddy, for all your b*tching about inflation and devaluing of the currency, America has NOTHING to cry about. Take a look at the inflation occurring around the world (Zimbabwe for example) and cry me a freakin' river.

I saw you replied to them already, but you should also let them know that inflation has been a lot worse than they think, and it is going to be a lot worse than they think. For example, housing prices nearly doubled in less than a couple of decades. That's inflation. That means people were paying twice as much for their houses as they were before. Tell them that housing prices should come down so that people can afford all of the houses out there that were built during the housing boom. If the government would step aside, housing prices would come down to the point where it is more affordable.

Just because food prices have remained relatively steady, and the cost of foreign goods has gone down does not mean that we haven't been having inflation of our currency. Then you might want to throw in the true definition of inflation, which is growing the money supply, which is altogether different than rising prices, though they certainly are related.

 

[LittleLightShining]

lol... that guy is insane. I can't believe people say and think that way.

I especially like this comment:



Like someone said in the comments below "provide proof." If he can't confirm it he shouldn't report it. Wow.. still amazed.

That someone was me. My account was disabled

 

[A. Havnes]

Debating liberals isn't even a challenge anymore. Once a guy terminated our debate with a final, "I'm not going to debate Libertarian philosophy. I'll try and find what we discussed to drive him to that point.

 

[rp4prez]

Damn they REALLY hate me over there! hahaha..

This is why people speak rudely to you. Because you come on to this board, don't do anything except for stumping for Ron Paul and arguing that the U.S. needs to tie its currency to gold, and a majority of your posts have a tone as though you're "educating" us. (I'd guess you probably don't see it that way, but I'm willing to bet most of the posters here feel it.) It's rarely a good idea to start on a message board by dedicating yourself almost solely to politics (from a minority viewpoint, no less), or any other heated discussion. You need to get to know people, be helpful, ask for a little help, before you can really expect to garner any respect.

You might as well jump in cold to a cash bar thread.

Well I'm very sorry that people might feel this way. I can't help how people feel or take my messages. They are not meant to be "educational" at all. I'm stating my opinion and use things like "IMO", "I think", "it's my belief", or "I believe." If these words do not do the appropriate job I'm more than willing to entertain other methods of communication to be more effective with you or anyone else on this forum.

I'm usually under the impression that most everyone here understands things but has a different point of view. I like to discuss those different points of view. The fact that I spend most of my time in the political forum really shouldn't make any difference at all. If you or anyone else is so concerned with my amount of time in the political forum please feel free to send me a private message to get to know me better as a person instead of assuming things about me and/or mocking me like a child does.

I also assumed (I guess incorrectly?) that all of us here are adults and can have adult conversation about political topics. That's what this forum is here for. However, you bring up an important point. Is it always a good thing to surround yourself with like minded people? That would be an excellent discussion. Then a follow up topic of how to respectfully have a discussion with someone you passionately disagree with. I think we could all learn a lot from that.

I guess my point in all of this is that I disagree with you. I think someone could come on this forum here and spend most if not all their time in the political forum and talk about Ron Paul, Constitutional government, or free market economics and be just fine. It's how people react to those comments of disagreement and, IMO, should be mindful of even if they know everyone on the forum, visit every inch of the boards, and agree with the majority here.

P.S. I talk a lot more about other things than Ron Paul or US needs to go back to the gold standard. If you would read some of my more recent posts you'd know that.

 

[Freedom 4 all]

Enjoy while it lasts, I used to enjoy debating neocons until they permabanned me from Sean Hannity's forum.

 

[angelatc]

My thoughts:

Great. I agree, let's audit the Fed. Would that be a BIG job?? Who can we get to do it pro bono? 'Cuz otherwise, who is going to pay for it?

An audit usually pays for itself, actually, if one has never been audited before.

Some signs in Madiosn:

Where's the birth certificate?
Hitler was really popular to. (nice spelling)
Taxation = white slavery
1 million people attended the inauguration this year and only 15 missed work.

Having been to some anit-war demonstrations, I'm not sure they can actually be pretending to hold any moral high ground on this issue, so one must assume they're disappointed in us because they hold us to a higher standard than their brethern.

Buddy, for all your b*tching about inflation and devaluing of the currency, America has NOTHING to cry about. Take a look at the inflation occurring around the world (Zimbabwe for example) and cry me a freakin' river.

Zimbabwe introduced competing currencies to slow down inflation, so that example actually is a point for our side. Besides, how would these people react if you said "Buddy, for all your b*tching about health care America has NOTHING to cry about. Take a look at the starvation and disease occurring around the world (Zimbabwe for example) and cry me a freakin' river."

I think you're looking for "naive".

Typo flame? Pathetic.

Back to inflation, I'll take a little inflation over deflation any day.

LOL!

My taxes have gone down. Between DH and I, we see about $100 more a month in our paychecks. I see nothing to protest from my POV.

Actually, her taxes haven't changed. Her witholding has gone down. If she and her husband both work, there's a good chance they might owe money next April. But let's keep that to ourselves.

Well, it's great to know all those of us working for non-profits, caring for the elderly, abused and neglected children, their families, the poor, homeless, the undereducated and underemployed-for which we get paid insulting salaries, BTW-are simply draining resources and providing nothing of value to society. And you wonder why your posts are mocked and laughed at.

Charity provides those services much better than government, especially when government isn't competing with them. She's right - she is a drain on resources. While she does provide some value, it certainly isn't the best value.

Did it ever occur to you non-profit workers ENJOY what they do, or maybe even BELIEVE in what they do? It's not all about making a profit.

Then stop being insulted by the salaries.

The immense density and stupidity in your post is hard to comprehend. What a lovely, well-constructed bubble you must live in, where sarcasm and intelligence fail to break through.

Irony. I love irony.

Will there ever be a time when programs for literacy, abuse victims, cancer programs, etc. be SO profitable (i.e. able to operate) that we won't need grants?

NOt as long as there are business that demand grants. But grants divert money politically instead of viably.

What point of view is it you think I should defend? The fact that non-profits are underfunded and expected to overproduce?

Actually, that's the environment that could encourage efficiency improvements of non=profit managers didn't measure their manhoods by the size of their budgets.

 

[rp4prez]

I love you guys! hehehe...

 

[Mesogen]

This is what I go through often on Democrat blogs.

Their new "trump" argument is "Why weren't you complaining before? Why now that the Democrats are in power and we have a black president?"

They pull it out over and over.


eta:

here's another canard

These Tea Parties were on the surface against higher taxes. But, just like you said, 95% of Americans have gotten a tax CUT already. So, then everyone had to stammer and scramble about "well, it's not really taxes, it's how the government spends our money." Well, what is it? It's confusing

Are they pretending to be dumb?

When the government spends money, where does that money come from? When the government goes into an abyss of debt, where will the money come from to pay it off or to pay the interest? You pretty much have two choices taxes or inflation.

 

[p4poetic]

I thought liberalism and libertarianism is more or less very similar. Oh well, guess I was wrong...

 

[asimplegirl]

You did?

 

[Andrew-Austin]

I thought liberalism and libertarianism is more or less very similar. Oh well, guess I was wrong...

Liberals are for civil liberties and privacy just as libertarians are, though they stick up for them rather inconsistently.

Other then that they differ enormously.