Cured Cancer Patient Gets 20 years for selling Apricot Seeds - Vitamin B17 Cure

[PaulConventionWV]

Yes, you're undoubtedly right, and that being the case- I wonder how this travesty of justice was able to reach the newspapers at all. To intimidate others, I see that, but it also threw a spotlight on the curative powers of the seeds and a highly damaging spotlight on the falsity/worthlessness of their "cures".

Hmm. NOT rational at all -but then, neither are they, the drug pushers...right?

No, it doesn't really cast light on the curative powers of the seeds. I don't see why you would assume that. Rather, it reinforces the message that big pharma is all you have. It only damages the falsity/worthlessness of their "cures" if people then go and research it just because they saw something about it in a newspaper, which is highly unlikely. A "spotlight" would be putting actual evidence of the benefits of B17 or the harms of big pharma in the newspaper, not just some guy getting arrested for selling something he shouldn't be selling. You are reallly reachhing for conclusions by thinking that one or a couple newspaper articles is going to "cast a spotlight" on something that runs much deeper.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

No, I don't claim nothing of the sort. My gripe is with the ethics surrounding an exponential monetary system based on debt. No conspiracy theory needed thank you very much.

So you think Bernanke is doing this out of the goodness of his heart? And Obama? He REALLY wants what's best for America? LOL

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I'm guessing one can't buy the seeds in bulk because they don't want people making cyanide. As if gasoline isn't just as dangerous...

It's because they don't want people starting a business selling real cures.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Sounds like the testing that was done when they came up with "Smoking cannabis kills brain cells"

They tested on monkeys. They hooked them up to a gas mask that pumped in 63 joints worth of smoke in 5 minutes for three months.

They suffocated them, that's what killed their brain cells.

EndDaFed watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JGjzwVvN8#t=58s

Man, those must have been some stoned-off-their-asses monkeys!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Cancer presents a paradox to me. I don't want it, and I don't want anyone I know to suffer from it, but on the other hand, it helps keep the population younger and to a manageable level, with less starvation and depletion of natural resources. We all gotta die of something. If not cancer, then what? How long would civilization last, and how long would our natural resources hold out if we wiped out everything that killed us?

Probably the biggest paradox there is...

That's right.
Cancer: killing us so we don't die.

 

[DGambler]

Ok, I just finished the book. I also ate apple seeds yesterday, guess what, I'm not dead.

Thanks again for this thread...not sure how someone who has learned about the Fed (which required a great deal of curiosity a few years ago) wouldn't at least research more into this area and read testimonials prior to condemning it.

 

[Ethek]

My take is that B17 and B12 absorbtion are highly dependent on gut health and gut PH balance. Inflamation (like with a dietary allergen intolerance , wheat, soy, dairy, ect..) coupled with a overly sugar based refined grain diet will destroy your bodies ability to absorb complex B vitamins.

Judging from the Obesity Rate I say at least 40% of the public is walking around with major food intolerance (Celiacs) and a good percentage of others cope with chronic minor inflationary

As for the import of PH, look at the 'miracle' of Apple cider vinegar. Yeast thrives on sugars and exudes a know carcinogen toxin. It hates vinegar, grapefruit seed, perhaps apricot seed. B vitamins are crucial in heart health (homocysteines) , mental health (Alzheimer,MS, autoimmune) and a slew of other things.

I don't know why people are not allowed to come to their own judgement on this.

 

[DGambler]

My take is that B17 and B12 absorbtion are highly dependent on gut health and gut PH balance. Inflamation (like with a dietary allergen intolerance , wheat, soy, dairy, ect..) coupled with a overly sugar based refined grain diet will destroy your bodies ability to absorb complex B vitamins.

Judging from the Obesity Rate I say at least 40% of the public is walking around with major food intolerance (Celiacs) and a good percentage of others cope with chronic minor inflationary

As for the import of PH, look at the 'miracle' of Apple cider vinegar. Yeast thrives on sugars and exudes a know carcinogen toxin. It hates vinegar, grapefruit seed, perhaps apricot seed. B vitamins are crucial in heart health (homocysteines) , mental health (Alzheimer,MS, autoimmune) and a slew of other things.

I don't know why people are not allowed to come to their own judgement on this.

Have you read World Without Cancer? It pretty much answers your question.

 

[DamianTV]

My take is that B17 and B12 absorbtion are highly dependent on gut health and gut PH balance. Inflamation (like with a dietary allergen intolerance , wheat, soy, dairy, ect..) coupled with a overly sugar based refined grain diet will destroy your bodies ability to absorb complex B vitamins.

Judging from the Obesity Rate I say at least 40% of the public is walking around with major food intolerance (Celiacs) and a good percentage of others cope with chronic minor inflationary

As for the import of PH, look at the 'miracle' of Apple cider vinegar. Yeast thrives on sugars and exudes a know carcinogen toxin. It hates vinegar, grapefruit seed, perhaps apricot seed. B vitamins are crucial in heart health (homocysteines) , mental health (Alzheimer,MS, autoimmune) and a slew of other things.

I don't know why people are not allowed to come to their own judgement on this.

I know it is off topic from Cancer in general, but people are not allowed to conclude their own judgements because it would harm corporate profits. People are expected to think what they are told, by a form of submission I call Intellectual Slavery. That is to say if a person has a couple of letters behind their name and wear some form of official looking costume, things of those nature have been taught to us to expect those people are Intellectual Superiors and their conclusions are to not be questioned. This is also coupled with another form of Slavery I call the Health Slave. People become helplessly dependant on those that do the most harm to them with the expectation that the harm will cease if compliance is offered. The only thing that the slaves compliance does for the Health Slave is bolster corporate profits at the expense of their own lives. Take these pills, for the rest of your life. Get this procedure because it is really fucking expensive. First they make you sick, then you turn to them for help, then they continue taking advantage of you.

I think there is one major problem with the Healthcare Industry that isnt addressed very often. And that is effective treatments being more cost effective to the individual cant win against treatments that are beyond expensive. They would work if we had a truly free market, but being that our financial system is the exact opposite of a free market, cost effective and beneficial treatments are prohibited at every opportunity. The decline in our physical health is a symptom of an unhealthy financial market. I believe the solution to this isnt to fix the financial market, but separate the concepts of the two. Otherwise, its your money or your life, and often people lose both. Medical Care Providers dont make money on healthy people, thus, making more people sick more often generates revenue. I dont really have any sort of a solution for removing the incentives of greed out of the equation, but believe that if we had a truly Free Market in finance, these Death Dealers would go out of business becaue of the prohibitively high cost of their non effective treatnments would lose out to more cost effective and health effectve methods of treating illness and disease, simply because the demand for the latter would be higher.

 

[presence]

I don't give a shit what the government says. Which is why I linked to clinical research. I only care what the specialists think.

I don't give a shit what the government or the clinical research says. If one of my fellow Americans wants to sell apricot seeds to someone else that wants to buy them FOR WHATEVER REASON, they damn well should have the LIBERTY to do so in the land of the free.

I don't need a fucking nanny.

 

[DGambler]

Has anyone here ever eaten apricot seeds? If they were truly poisonous, why aren't they out and out outlawed?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Depends on how many you eat at one time. You can die from drinking too much water too.

 

[farreri]

I've been eating apple seeds along with my apples for the last two months now with no ill effect. Viva apples seeds!

 

[DGambler]

In regards to Laetrile, even the National Cancer Institute acknowledges that no controlled clinical trial of laetrile has ever been conducted.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/laetrile/HealthProfessional/page5

Laetrile has been used as an anticancer treatment in humans worldwide. Reviewed in [1] Although many anecdotal reports and case reports are available, findings from only two clinical trials [2,3] have been published. No controlled clinical trial (a trial including a comparison group that receives no additional treatment, a placebo, or another treatment) of laetrile has ever been conducted.

 

[farreri]

Foods Containing B17 (Nitrilosides)

http://www.vitaminb17.org/foods.htm

 

[farreri]

"Answers To The Most Frequently Asked Questions About Apricot Seeds..."

http://www.rawapricotseeds.com/faq.html

 

[farreri]

Is there amygdalin in the apricot's pit (stone), or just in the seed (kernel) inside the pit?

 

[DGambler]

Is there amygdalin in the apricot's pit (stone), or just in the seed (kernel) inside the pit?

Just the kernel from my understanding. I've been eating them now for about 2 weeks. About 4 to 7 a day.