Cuccinelli: We're Positioned to Shock the Political World

You're a Jew, so obviously you won't accept my reasons.

Good one.

Your reasons are based on religious doctrine. You want to live in a theocracy. You dont believe in freedom, you believe in doctrine. Strict and zealous adherence to said doctrine. Youll defend the constitution for its support of decentralization but Im sure when it comes to separation of church and state youll suddenly find disagreement.

Lastly I dont disagree with your crazy views because im Jewish I disagree with them because they are insane.

(Ironically Orthodox Judaism probably accepts your views)

He's saying that thanks to condoms and other contraceptives, sex becomes SOLELY AND ONLY about pleasure. It becomes a hollow experience over time. And he has a point quite honestly if you examine society and how screwed up it has become. I think there is a balance to maintain. We shouldn't be living like Puritans, but by the same token we shouldn't be the Romans before the fall.

Who cares? What gives the government the right to ban a piece of rubber? Who cares if he thinks sex becomes solely and only about pleasure?? Thats his view. No ones forces him to use a condom but he shouldnt stop me, or anyone else for that matter, from using one. Im not hurting anyone by using a condom nor am I limiting someone else freedoms, thus theres no just reason for it to be banned.
 
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Good one.

It wasn't meant for you to take offensively, I base my views on my Catholic faith, you are Jewish so obviously you would not accept my arguments as having a valid basis.

Your reasons are based on religious doctrine.

Yes.

You want to live in a theocracy.

No. I do not believe the Church should be the civil authority. I do have some theonomist leanings, but I do not advocate a theocracy or ecclesiocracy.

Youll defend the constitution for its support of decentralization but Im sure when it comes to separation of church and state youll suddenly find disagreement.

I believe in separation of church and state, but I do not believe in it the way SCOTUS has defined it.

Lastly I dont disagree with your crazy views because im Jewish I disagree with them because they are insane.

I was not saying you would disagree with me because you are Jewish, I was saying you would disagree with my reasoning as valid because you are non-Christian.
 
Is anyone concerned about the OP, or do you just want to bicker about your divisive issues? It'd be an awful lot more productive to discuss the unifying ones.

Well, I guess you got your answer...me thinks we've been infiltrated.
 
Look at what you have done to this thread... Regardless of what your position is, you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
 
It wasn't meant for you to take offensively, I base my views on my Catholic faith, you are Jewish so obviously you would not accept my arguments as having a valid basis.



Yes.



No. I do not believe the Church should be the civil authority. I do have some theonomist leanings, but I do not advocate a theocracy or ecclesiocracy.



I believe in separation of church and state, but I do not believe in it the way SCOTUS has defined it.



I was not saying you would disagree with me because you are Jewish, I was saying you would disagree with my reasoning as valid because you are non-Christian.

My disagreement with your views has nothing to do with Religion. As I mentioned before Orthodox Judaism probably holds the same beliefs as you do. I disagree with your views because to enforce the policies you wish to implement, it would require force.

If your not stopping aggression or fraud, there is no legitimate use of force by government.
 
Gays aren't taxed differently; single people (as defined by the state) are taxed differently. I agree that all government marriages violate the NAP since it gives certain benefits to a defined group of people. But if you assume all marriage licenses do not violate the NAP, then neither does a "straight only" marriage license.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that of all the issues, gov't marriage should be the one we are the least concerned about. State marriage isn't going away and no matter how it's defined, it ultimately doesn't affect anyone's human rights as far as I can tell. Yes there's tax inequality, but giving two same-sex people a marriage license doesn't solve that either because single people are still taxed differently.

I dunno. I think everything is everything. One could argue that foreign aid is a drop in the bucket so why worry about it. My stance is end it or open it up. If yu open it up then maybe there will be a reaction from the right to end it for good. If Christians Conservatives are fighting for their gawd given rights and it is opened up to everyone perhaps they will retaliate and call for an end to it. I dunno.
Long ago I came up with the solution. Simply allow anyone to appoint anyone as their benefit designee. Could be a wife, husband, S.O. brother sister etc....
 
You didn't need to, your 'live and let live' theology is rooted in secular humanism.

We are not living in ancient biblical times which is what you seem to want to go back to. Live and let live is a tenet of libertarianism and I am a libertarian if not an AnCap so yes I totally disagree with your theocratic leanings, call it what you wish, it is what it is. There has been a lot of immoral acts committed in the name of religious doctrine, so I would be very careful about supporting religious doctrine as a moral compass personally. Plus I'm not brainwashed to believe that I need that doctrine to tell me when to cross the street. I am not an atheist but I will not live in a theocracy.
 
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Good one.

Your reasons are based on religious doctrine. You want to live in a theocracy. You dont believe in freedom, you believe in doctrine. Strict and zealous adherence to said doctrine. Youll defend the constitution for its support of decentralization but Im sure when it comes to separation of church and state youll suddenly find disagreement.

Lastly I dont disagree with your crazy views because im Jewish I disagree with them because they are insane.

(Ironically Orthodox Judaism probably accepts your views)



Who cares? What gives the government the right to ban a piece of rubber? Who cares if he thinks sex becomes solely and only about pleasure?? Thats his view. No ones forces him to use a condom but he shouldnt stop me, or anyone else for that matter, from using one. Im not hurting anyone by using a condom nor am I limiting someone else freedoms, thus theres no just reason for it to be banned.

I agree. His observations and fears do not give him the right to enforce a 'one size fits all' solution.
 
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eduardo has been watching too much Monty Python....



Eduardo thinks he's going to save humanity when the script has already been written. There will be no saving.
 
Clenard Childress of BlackGenocide.org discusses how The Negro Project was the foundation of today’s industrialized abortion industry and how its pioneer, Margaret Sanger, who is still lauded by liberals as a human rights crusader, deliberately set out to sterilize blacks and encourage abortion of black babies in pursuit of a eugenicist drive to create a racially superior master race, a goal she shared with her close friend Adolf Hitler, and one that continues to reverberate through the generations as over 1,700 black babies are killed in the United States every day. Childress explains how the public school system’s encouragement of adolescents to have sex by handing out condoms is circumventing the authority of parents, which has led to an epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases, unwanted pregnancies and promiscuity. Childress leads the fight against the normalization of abortion, noting that after just a few weeks it’s now established that babies in the womb have heart beats and brain waves. Childress highlights how the Negro Project, Margaret Sanger’s eugenics plan for black Americans, targeted the systematic genocide of blacks through the promotion of abortion.
Childress explains how Sanger, a devout racist who wrote letters to and received praise from Hitler, was an advocate of social Darwinism and believed that a master race should be bred while ethnic groups deemed inferior, including African-Americans, needed to either be exterminated or their numbers reduced greatly. Sanger’s sterilization and abortion programs targeting the African-American community were set up in such a way so that the victims did not become suspicious of her true intentions. Sanger knew that to offset any distrust of her motives she would have to hire black religious leaders to deliver her programs and message, which is exactly what transpired as Childress highlights.
The eugenics drive to cull the black population was also achieved by withholding benefits from blacks who refused to be sterilized or have their baby aborted, thereby using coercion to force compliance with eugenics programs. After the end of the odious Tuskeegee experiments, wherein which African-American sharecroppers were deliberately and unwittingly infected by the U.S. Public Health Service with syphilis and not treated, eugenics went underground and re-emerged through organizations like Planned Parenthood.
Sanger worked closely with members of the Third Reich and yet she is still celebrated and honored today by liberals as a pioneer of women’s rights. Childress labels Sanger’s origins and her background as “the best kept secret in America” but notes that people are gradually becoming aware of her providence and her deep connections to today’s neo-eugenics movement and its adjutant abortion industry.
Sanger’s legacy lingers on in the modern era now that the African-American birth rate has dipped below the replacement rate thanks to industrialized abortion. Childress labels this process “genocide” and points out that Sanger’s program has been successful – around 52 per cent of all African-American pregnancies now end in abortion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnjCUVgW0hc&feature=youtu.be
 
I honestly think the western world is lost. Read my signature.


Not only the idea of God. Spirituality has been lost. I think organized religion is frankly a crock of shit, but it has been replaced by needless consumerism and hedonism simply for the sake of hedonism. Man is a creature of duality that is constantly battling between his higher conscious self and animal side. Over the recent years, the animal side has become dominant. This does not bode well for the future. Animals typically will deprive an area of it's food source without any concern for the winter. Animals will needlessly kill their young on occasion. You see where I'm going with this.
 
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Not only the idea of God. Spirituality has been lost. I think organized religion is frankly a crock of shit, but it has been replaced by needless consumerism and hedonism simply for the sake of hedonism.

All by design. Destroy man's relationship with God and he becomes a slave to his passions and therefore easily controlled.
 
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[h=1]The Silent Scream (Full Length) 28 minutes. The Silent Scream Complete Version - Abortion as Infanticide

Dr. Bernard Nathanson's classic video that shocked the world. He explains the procedure of a suction abortion, followed by an actual first trimester abortion as seen through ultrasound. The viewer can see the child's pathetic attempts to escape the suction curette as her heart rate doubles, and a "silent scream" as her body is torn apart. A great tool to help people see why abortion is murder. The most important video on abortion ever made. This video changed opinion on abortion to many people.
Introduction by Dr. Bernard Nathanson, host. Describes the technology of ultrasound and how, for the first time ever, we can actually see inside the womb. Dr. Nathanson further describes the ultrasound technique and shows examples of babies in the womb. Three-dimensional depiction of the developing fetus, from 4 weeks through 28 weeks. Display and usage of the abortionists' tools, plus video of an abortionist performing a suction abortion. Dr. Nathanson discusses the abortionist who agreed to allow this abortion to be filmed with ultrasound. The abortionist was quite skilled, having performed more than 10,000 abortions. We discover that the resulting ultrasound of his abortion so appalled him that he never again performed another abortion. The clip begins with an ultrasound of the fetus (girl) who is about to be aborted. The girl is moving in the womb; displays a heartbeat of 140 per minute; and is at times sucking her thumb. As the abortionist's suction tip begins to invade the womb, the child rears and moves violently in an attempt to avoid the instrument. Her mouth is visibly open in a "silent scream." The child's heart rate speeds up dramatically (to 200 beats per minute) as she senses aggression. She moves violently away in a pathetic attempt to escape the instrument. The abortionist's suction tip begins to rip the baby's limbs from its body, ultimately leaving only her head in the uterus (too large to be pulled from the uterus in one piece). The abortionist attempts to crush her head with his forceps, allowing it to be removed. In an effort to "dehumanize" the procedure, the abortionist and anesthesiologist refer to the baby's head as "number 1." The abortionist crushes "number 1" with the forceps and removes it from the uterus. Abortion statistics are revealed, as well as who benefits from the enormously lucrative industry that has developed. Clinics are now franchised, and there is ample evidence that many are controlled by organized crime. Women are victims, too. They haven't been told about the true nature of the unborn child or the facts about abortion procedures. Their wombs have been perforated, infected, destroyed, and sterilized. All as a result of an operation about which they they have had no true knowledge. Films like this must be made part of "informed consent." NARAL (National Abortion Rights Action League) and Planned Parenthood are accused of a conspiracy of silence, of keeping women in the dark about the reality of abortion. Finally, Dr. Nathanson discusses his credentials. He is a former abortionist, having been the director of the largest clinic in the Western world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gON-8PP6zgQ[/h]
 
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