If I take his money though, then I could get my refund from the donations I gave his campaign during his senate run. But that still doesn't mean I would vote for him.
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I just think he's probably the best that we'll actually be able to get. He's the most libertarian candidate that Republican voters are actually able to stomach in the current political environment. I would prefer him over Trump, Rubio, and Clinton.
Because Rand is the ONLY republican candidate that attract enough democrats and independents to beat Hillary in the general, and we want a real conservative to win.
That's why.
He should run as an independent or as the Libertarian Party candidate then. He has no chance at the GOP nomination with poll numbers at 2-3% with only six weeks to go. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
Brett, seriously, why don't you just go to the Ted Cruz forums already. If Rand doesn't have a chance, I don't understand the need for you to be here, or worse, continuously make negative comments about Rand while trying to prop up Ted Cruz.
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Cruz had a bad press week, they are all coming out of the woodwork now. Checkout Breitbart and Free Republic, they are freaking out over there.
This is the 2016 Presidential election sub forum. This isn't the Rand Paul sub forum. The liberty movement shouldn't just be about one person or one family. This shouldn't be some sort of cult like movement where no one within the movement is ever allowed to support anyone who's last name isn't Paul.
Yep, there's the cult like mentality for you. Anyone who dares to think for themselves isn't allowed here.
We should be supporting Liberty candidates and Cruz isn't one of them. It's in especially bad taste for you to put Rand Paul down, while trying to pump this fraud Ted Cruz.
you're trying to poison the well with your pro-Cruz Neo_Con fraud garbage.
Cult like? Here we go... By the way, have you ever met a Cruz/Trump supporter?
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If you are going to push Cruz, can you at least come up with some better reasoning for us to not support Rand than that nonsense.
Rand Paul is my first choice for President. I donated money to his Senate campaign in 2010. I've donated money to him in his money bombs this election cycle. I will continue to donate more to him in his race for the U.S Senate. But his candidacy for President seems to be going nowhere, and if he isn't going to win, then to me it makes no sense to attack Cruz which will just make it more likely that a full blown neocon like Rubio wins the nomination. You may not see any difference between Rubio and Cruz, but I do. I think Rubio is far worse. And Trump is a full blown fascist who's advocating Hitler type policies.
You're intentionally distorting my words. I'm not trying to convince you to not support Rand. I will continue to support him as long as he remains in the race. I just think it makes no sense to constantly attack the candidate who's the closest to Rand on the issues. I see so many libertarians on Facebook constantly attacking Cruz. It just makes no sense to me. You should focus your criticism on the candidates who are the most anti liberty. Attacking Cruz also isn't going to do anything at all to make Rand win over his supporters.
LOL; Brett here may actually be slick, Ted 'two-faced' Cruz himself.
Dude, I have over 21,000 posts here. You have barely over 1,000. I've been promoting liberty candidates since I first started posting here. I've donated money to Rand and promoted his candidacy on my Facebook page. His Presidential campaign is going nowhere, but I'll do what I can to help him get reelected to the Senate.
I didn't distort any words... I'm just saying that referring to his current position in the polls as a way to discount any possibility of rand winning is nonsense. We've seen how this goes, time and time again. Cruz was 6% just 2 weeks ago. Now people are saying he's all but inevitable. Paul could rise just as quickly.
Cruz didn't have a negative favorable rating with Republican voters. In the most recent PPP poll, Rand was at a 37% favorable rating and 47% unfavorable rating with Republican voters. You can't win the nomination of a party that has a plurality of voters who have a negative opinion of you. The rise of ISIS and the Republican Party becoming more hawkish killed Rand's campaign. Rand is the best candidate running, but I'm just being realistic.
But, I should've just kept my thoughts to myself. I'm not trying to undermine Rand's campaign in any way but was rather just looking at the race objectively. I'm not trying to convince anyone to support Cruz. I was just kind of writing down my current thoughts. But I will stop posting comments about Rand's campaign because while I don't think he has any chance to win, I don't want to do anything to undermine his campaign or be accused of doing that.
So, see you guys in a few months when Rand's Senate campaign kicks off. Later.
Whether it benefits Rand or not is unknown, you were questioning why people were attacking Cruz. While yes it wouldn't make sense to do so if people were seriously considering Cruz as a 2nd option (or even 1st), like yourself and I'm sure others as well, but to the rest Cruz is no different than Bush, Rubio, Hillary, Trump or whoever else.
Anyways Cruz has been attacking Rand from the start (not directly because that isn't his style), I don't see why Rand shouldn't attack back.
Also you're attacking Rand supporters as cult-like, have you seen the Cruz and Trump supporters online? Also just an fyi no need for the back handed comments when you claim to be a Rand Paul supporter.
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