Cruz knocks Dole, McCain, Romney, praises Ron Paul

[jbauer]

dang tough crowd tonight. He might be pandering but lets give credit where credit is due. He said RON PAUL was the reason young people were interested in the GOP. He might have said it while thinking something completely different but he still said it to THOUSANDS of conservatives. He said it to THOUSANDS of conservatives that paid to go to a conservative conference in the middle of march.

Those words will come back to get him when he tries to knock Rand down.

Enjoy the sunshine boys and girls!!

 

[anaconda]

7:08 I guess Mr. Cruz feels "intervention is popular" with conservatives (tanks in the Ukraine, etc.). Is Cruz a Jeffersonian conservative or an Irving Kristol conservative?

 

[thoughtomator]

I did not know he was born in Canada. Does that mean he can't be President.

It depends on the nationality of his parents when he was born. If not both either citizens or legal immigrants at the time, he's not eligible.

 

[jjdoyle]

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Even Ron Paul would tailer his speeches for the audience he was speaking too.

BTW: I don't know why I didn't get it sooner, but I finally "got" your avatar.

On the bold, no, not really. He pretty much gave the same speech, at every stop. Every now and then a new detail or thought on a current event at the time might be included, but it was always the same, basic, speech.

Perhaps we should show Ted, Ron's letter about President Reagan and why he "left" the Republican Party back in the 80s? I don't think Ron thought of Reagan as having many principles that he stood by.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ron_Paul's_1987_Resignation_Letter_to_the_RNC

 

[anaconda]

Every time a "conservative" mentions the "Reagan Revolution" I get very frustrated and feel very condescended to. If Cruz was so dang "bold" he would have added a number eleven to the list in his speech: 11) No more saying Reagan was "conservative." And then spelled out precisely why.

 

[twomp]

Every time I finish listening to Ted Cruz speak, I feel the need to check my wallet to see if it's still there.

 

[klamath]

On the bold, no, not really. He pretty much gave the same speech, at every stop. Every now and then a new detail or thought on a current event at the time might be included, but it was always the same, basic, speech.

Perhaps we should show Ted, Ron's letter about President Reagan and why he "left" the Republican Party back in the 80s? I don't think Ron thought of Reagan as having many principles that he stood by.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ron_Paul's_1987_Resignation_Letter_to_the_RNC

but yet he tried to use knowing Reagan as a campaign ad

 

[IndianaPolitico]

On the bold, no, not really. He pretty much gave the same speech, at every stop. Every now and then a new detail or thought on a current event at the time might be included, but it was always the same, basic, speech.

Perhaps we should show Ted, Ron's letter about President Reagan and why he "left" the Republican Party back in the 80s? I don't think Ron thought of Reagan as having many principles that he stood by.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ron_Paul's_1987_Resignation_Letter_to_the_RNC

He kind of did. Not pandering, but he definitely was aware of the audience he was speaking to. His speeches at the Faith and Freedom Conferences are different then those he would give on college campuses. Not in substance, but in the way it was presented.

 

[TheGrinch]

dang tough crowd tonight. He might be pandering but lets give credit where credit is due. He said RON PAUL was the reason young people were interested in the GOP. He might have said it while thinking something completely different but he still said it to THOUSANDS of conservatives. He said it to THOUSANDS of conservatives that paid to go to a conservative conference in the middle of march.

Those words will come back to get him when he tries to knock Rand down.

Enjoy the sunshine boys and girls!!

I tend to agree. I think Cruz is a shill and always doubt his sincerity, but so long as we don't let him co-opt our progress, he's providing great exposure and proving which way the wind is blowing. It feels nice to get our asses kissed. It means we're winning.

 

[dinosaur]

Apparently Cruz tells a different story behind closed doors.

We saw a the first hint of this back in November, when the New York Times‘ Jonathan Martin reported that “when Mr. Cruz went to New York City to meet with donors this summer, he privately offered a different view of Mr. Paul: The Kentucky senator can never be elected president, he told them, because he can never fully detach himself from the strident libertarianism of his father, former Representative Ron Paul of Texas.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/06/how-ted-cruz-is-trying-to-outmaneuver-rand-paul/#ixzz2vHLjhAY5

 

[Dary]

Apparently Cruz tells a different story behind closed doors.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/06/how-ted-cruz-is-trying-to-outmaneuver-rand-paul/#ixzz2vHLjhAY5

Good find.

 

[jbauer]

To be fair....and play devils advocate he said the GOP needs to be more like ron and ron not neck airily exactly. I think we're all aware Cruz is just pandering. Let's just hope rand blows the doors of the place this afternoon!!!!

 

[angelatc]

Apparently Cruz tells a different story behind closed doors.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/06/how-ted-cruz-is-trying-to-outmaneuver-rand-paul/#ixzz2vHLjhAY5

Cruz "urged Republicans to run campaigns on true conservative principles" not actually govern according to them, silly. He's George W Bush.

 

[Michael Landon]

Every time Cruz links Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul together, I get more of my enemies in the Republican Party sincerely asking me about Ron Paul so I don't think this is a bad thing. Reagan had his issues and Ron Paul exposed them in his Party resignation letter, but most conservatives view Reagan as THE Conservative standard bearer so for Ron Paul to be mentioned in the same sentence as Reagan, it causes some conservatives to look at Paul more closely.

- ML

 

[Brett85]

Cruz keeps constantly talking about how he's somewhere in between "the two extremes" on foreign policy, Rand Paul and John McCain. The sad thing about that is that Rand is already a moderate on foreign policy issues, halfway in between Ron and McCain on foreign policy. So if Cruz is really about halfway in between Rand and McCain on foreign policy, then he's about a 75% interventionist. He agrees with McCain about 75% of the time on foreign policy issues, and agrees with Ron about 25% of the time.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Cruz keeps constantly talking about how he's somewhere in between "the two extremes" on foreign policy, Rand Paul and John McCain. The sad thing about that is that Rand is already a moderate on foreign policy issues, halfway in between Ron and McCain on foreign policy. So if Cruz is really about halfway in between Rand and McCain on foreign policy, then he's about a 75% interventionist. He agrees with McCain about 75% of the time on foreign policy issues, and agrees with Ron about 25% of the time.

I personally think Rand is more than 50% non-interventionist, and I've been more critical of him than others here. If I had to give a ballpark figure for Rand I'd say somewhere between 70-80% non-interventionist.

 

[Brett85]

I personally think Rand is more than 50% non-interventionist, and I've been more critical of him than others here. If I had to give a ballpark figure for Rand I'd say somewhere between 70-80% non-interventionist.

Maybe so, but either way it would make more sense for Cruz to say that he's somewhere in between "the polar extremes" of Ron and McCain than between Rand and McCain. Rand really isn't "extreme" or "isolationist" at all in his foreign policy views, in my opinion.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I wish that Rand would explain to these idiots the difference between "isolationist" and "non-interventionist" at some point. He may need to point it out more than once, too. As in, very often.

 

[compromise]

I personally think Rand is more than 50% non-interventionist, and I've been more critical of him than others here. If I had to give a ballpark figure for Rand I'd say somewhere between 70-80% non-interventionist.

Rand Paul is 90%+ non-interventionist. The only issues where he disagrees with Ron are Iran sanctions when diplomacy is not being conducted and maintaining certain permanent alliances and overseas military bases.

7:08 I guess Mr. Cruz feels "intervention is popular" with conservatives (tanks in the Ukraine, etc.). Is Cruz a Jeffersonian conservative or an Irving Kristol conservative?

Neither.

On the bold, no, not really. He pretty much gave the same speech, at every stop. Every now and then a new detail or thought on a current event at the time might be included, but it was always the same, basic, speech.

Perhaps we should show Ted, Ron's letter about President Reagan and why he "left" the Republican Party back in the 80s? I don't think Ron thought of Reagan as having many principles that he stood by.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ron_Paul's_1987_Resignation_Letter_to_the_RNC

Except when Ron ran for President of course, when he changed his mind.

Cruz "urged Republicans to run campaigns on true conservative principles" not actually govern according to them, silly. He's George W Bush.

Cruz has a more conservative voting record than Barry Goldwater. George W. Bush is a moderate Republican.

Every time Cruz links Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul together, I get more of my enemies in the Republican Party sincerely asking me about Ron Paul so I don't think this is a bad thing. Reagan had his issues and Ron Paul exposed them in his Party resignation letter, but most conservatives view Reagan as THE Conservative standard bearer so for Ron Paul to be mentioned in the same sentence as Reagan, it causes some conservatives to look at Paul more closely.

- ML

I agree with your point, but describing them as "enemies" isn't a great way to treat a group you're trying to reach out to.

 

[Brett85]

Rand Paul is 90%+ non-interventionist. The only issues where he disagrees with Ron are Iran sanctions when diplomacy is not being conducted and maintaining certain permanent alliances and overseas military bases.

The issue of permanent alliances is a pretty significant issue, though. Rand also supports sanctions against Russia. Ron has called the sanctions against Russia "criminal."