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[kahless]

What does the bible say and why catholics do not qualify? Looking at the numbers catholics are the majority - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members - your words are starting to sound strange.

Sounds like he let his anti-Catholic bigotry out of the bag.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Roman Catholicism is not Christianity. They aren't Christians.

Not this again. I'm Catholic. I believe in Jesus Christ. Therefore, I am a Christian.

Now stop it.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Not this again. I'm Catholic. I believe in Jesus Christ. Therefore, I am a Christian.

Now stop it.

"Believing in Jesus" is not Christianity, especially with how Rome defines it. Believing in the propositions of the gospel is Christianity.

It sounds like you don't want to talk about it right now, but if you ever do, I will talk to you for as long as you want about the difference between the gospel and Roman Catholicism.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Is Kevin Swanson a real Christian?

I don't know. If he's a Reconstructionist, then he has some unbiblical notions about law and grace. It looks like he holds to the Westminster Confession, and there are problems in that too. I'm not judging anyone in particular, but I am judging the worldviews themselves.

 

[cajuncocoa]

"Believing in Jesus" is not Christianity, especially with how Rome defines it. Believing in the propositions of the gospel is Christianity.

It sounds like you don't want to talk about it right now, but if you ever do, I will talk to you for as long as you want about the difference between the gospel and Roman Catholicism.

Stop it. It's really rude to question other people's faith. That's what you're doing.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Stop it. It's really rude to question other people's faith. That's what you're doing.

I thought I was being as nice as I could by saying "it doesn't seem like you want to talk about it now, but anytime you want to talk about it, I would be happy to."

If you want me to deny the gospel by accepting Rome's false gospel, why would you have any respect for me? How could I respect myself by denying my faith?

 

[KEEF]

What does the bible say and why catholics do not qualify? Looking at the numbers catholics are the majority - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members - your words are starting to sound strange.

Ive been, and still am, Roman Catholic my whole life. Last I check, I have considered myself a Christian. I honestly dont know what Sola_Fide is talking about.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Ive been, and still am, Roman Catholic my whole life. Last I check, I have considered myself a Christian. I honestly dont know what Sola_Fide is talking about.

Do you want to talk about it?

 

[KEEF]

Do you want to talk about it?

Yes, I am honestly curious about why my Roman Catholic faith doesn't qualify as a Christian faith. If it is the whole argument that us Catholics hold all the saints and Mary on ecen ground as Jesus Christ, well that just isnt the case with the Roman Catholic faith. Maybe it is perceived that way by other Christian faiths because there are statues of Saints and such, but that just isnt the case.

In the scheme of things i am just going to go on through life to be the best person I can be to my fellow man, and use this forum for its intent to motivate people to get liberty minded candidates into office. But go ahead and PM me, as I am just curious because I hear it quite a bit from people of other Chriatian faiths.

 

[erowe1]

Is it also strange to say that non-Roman Catholics aren't Christians? Because that is the official position of the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[Indy Vidual]

The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest Christian church, with more than 1.25 billion members worldwide. One of the oldest religious institutions in the world, it has played a prominent role in the history of Western civilisation. ~Wikipedia

 

[AngryCanadian]

The Bible wasn't written by Jesus. Isn't this the same bible that called for burning the witches to?

“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer

Sounds like parts were written by the same people who wrote Koran.


There is a reason i stopped being religious.

 

[Dr. Dog]

Is it also strange to say that non-Roman Catholics aren't Christians? Because that is the official position of the Roman Catholic Church.

That is a lie.

 

[KEEF]

Is it also strange to say that non-Roman Catholics aren't Christians? Because that is the official position of the Roman Catholic Church.

Could you please reference the Catholic catechisms please? And/or find somewhere in the Roman Catholic Doctrine where this can be found?

...and nothing pre-Reformation where yes the Catholic Church was full of corruption and sometimes all out atrocities.

on a lighter note, let's go win some primaries.

 

[Sola_Fide]

That is a lie.

Have you read the catechism of the Roman Catholic church?

 

[Christian Liberty]

I don't know. If he's a Reconstructionist, then he has some unbiblical notions about law and grace. It looks like he holds to the Westminster Confession, and there are problems in that too. I'm not judging anyone in particular, but I am judging the worldviews themselves.

What views of law and grace do you think Reconstructionists have wrong, and how do those affect the gospel?

Stop it. It's really rude to question other people's faith. That's what you're doing.

Think about it from our perspective. Let's say he's right. Let's say you are going to Hell unless you repent. How would it in any way be loving for him not to question you on that? That doesn't follow at all.

I do think there are some Christians in the RCC, however I think those people would really have to repudiate what Trent says about faith alone, or at least effectively deny it.

Is it also strange to say that non-Roman Catholics aren't Christians? Because that is the official position of the Roman Catholic Church.

The Bible wasn't written by Jesus. Isn't this the same bible that called for burning the witches to?

Witches should be executed.

Sounds like parts were written by the same people who wrote Koran.


There is a reason i stopped being religious.

You stopped being religious because you have accepted enlightenment pluralism, and you have had it so deeply ingrained in you that you never thought to question it for the Biblical view of justice. Even though you have no basis for justice at all without God.

Could you please reference the Catholic catechisms please? And/or find somewhere in the Roman Catholic Doctrine where this can be found?

...and nothing pre-Reformation where yes the Catholic Church was full of corruption and sometimes all out atrocities.

on a lighter note, let's go win some primaries.

Council of Trent is technically post-reformation, and it says Protestants are anathema. I know Vatican II effectively reversed that, but the RCC somehow (bizarrely) says both councils are infallible.

 

[Dr. Dog]

Have you read the catechism of the Roman Catholic church?

Yes. And no where does it say all non-Catholics are not Christians.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Yes. And no where does it say all non-Catholics are not Christians.

The Council of Trent says we're "anathema." I know that Vatican II tries to reinterpret this to mean "really just wayward brethren" but that's clearly not original intent.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Yes. And no where does it say all non-Catholics are not Christians.

If salvation is only found in the Roman Catholic church, and not only am I not in it, but believe it is a Satanic institution, doesn't that mean I'm not saved?

 

[Dr. Dog]

The Council of Trent says we're "anathema." I know that Vatican II tries to reinterpret this to mean "really just wayward brethren" but that's clearly not original intent.

Many people have been falsely lead to believe that Vatican II revoked the anathemas of the Council of Trent, nothing could be further from the truth. An anathema on an infallible statement can not be revoked, and is always binding; otherwise the statement is not infallible.Vatican II referred to Trent dozens of times, quoted Trent's proclamations as authority, and reaffirmed Trent on every hand. As a matter of fact, at the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope John XXIII stated, "I do accept entirely all that has been decided and declared at the Council of Trent."