Coup d'Etat in Turkey Breaking?

Smitty said:
I'm not in the mood to have a pissin' match with someone suffering from Trump derangement syndrome today.
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Good. Especially since all you need for that is a mirror.

But, of course you'll keep trying to 'jack the thread until I let you have the last word, so go ahead...
 
acptulsa said:
Under 'weigh'?
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Yes. In olden days, a ship weighed anchor and went hither thither "under weigh". That became "under way", which is not strictly correct, AFAIK.

ETA: from http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-und2.htm


Under weigh

Question:

Q From Paul Bondin: An office colleague of mine insisted on writing “a project got under weigh” rather than “a project got under way”, whenever he described the start of some task. His explanation was that the expression had a maritime beginning, along the lines of weighing anchor to get a ship moving. I rather fancied the idea at the time, but I suspect that his story is pure fiction. The next time I use the expression, should I use weigh or way?

Answer:

A According to the best current style manuals, definitely way. But your colleague has the ghostly support of generations of writers. In fact, at one time, under weigh could be regarded as the standard spelling.

What happened was that the Dutch, who were European masters of the sea in the seventeenth century, gave us — among many other nautical expressions — the term onderweg, meaning “on the way”. This became naturalised as under way and is first recorded in English around 1740, specifically as a maritime term (its broader meanings didn’t appear until the following century). Some over-clever individuals connected with the sea almost immediately linked it erroneously with the phrase to weigh anchor. Weigh here is the same word as the one for finding out how heavy an object is. Both it and the anchor sense go back to the Old English verb, which could mean “raise up”. The link between the senses is the act of raising an object on scales.

It’s easy to find a myriad of examples of under weigh from the best English authors in the following two centuries, such as William Makepeace Thackeray, Captain Marryat, Washington Irving, Thomas Carlyle, Herman Melville, Lord Byron, and Charles Dickens (“There were the bad odours of the town, and the rain and the refuse in the kennels, and the faint lamps slung across the road, and the huge Diligence, and its mountain of luggage, and its six grey horses with their tails tied up, getting under weigh at the coach office.” — Little Dorrit).

It was still common as recently as the 1930s (“He felt her gaze upon him, all the same, as he stood with his back to her attending to the business of getting under weigh.” — The Happy Return by C S Forester, 1937) but weighhas dropped off almost to nothing now. This paralleled another change, starting around the same time, in which the two words began to be combined into a single adverb, underway (though many style manuals still recommend it be written as two words). It may be that the influence of other words ending in -way, especially anyway, encouraged the shift in spelling back to the original and in the process killed off a persistent misunderstanding.
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This is clearly a divergent opinion... may be correct, or not. I'm not that invested in it to care one way or another. Choose the poison that suits you. :)

However, the likes of Byron, Melville, and Thackeray seem to lend some credibility to "under weigh"

 
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Smitty said:
Erdogan was getting friendly with Putin.

Because of the possibility of a Trump Presidency, the U.S. State Dept. has decided to act against Assad before the election.

A coup was sponsored against Erdogan to prevent Turkey's relationship with Russia from being a hindrance in the effort against Syria.

Kerry goes to Moscow to inform Putin that it's going to happen and to warn him against getting involved.

The take away from it all, as mentioned, war with Syria is very imminent.
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Thanks for breaking it down.
 
Army arresting people violating curfew.

Numerous tanks and military vehicles heading towards State TV/Radio HQ

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acptulsa said:
Good. Especially since all you need for that is a mirror.

But, of course you'll keep trying to 'jack the thread until I let you have the last word, so go ahead...
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You know, you can agree with the other 95% of his post without agreeing with the Trump part.
 
CFR asshole on Sky News Laughing and Jiggling over the whole manner. "heh Heh it looks choreographed, I don't know"
 
Obama is clueless to this. This does not make his pet Islamic gang happy and should make Syria stronger.
 
Smitty said:
Erdogan was getting friendly with Putin.

Because of the possibility of a Trump Presidency, the U.S. State Dept. has decided to act against Assad before the election.

A coup was sponsored against Erdogan to prevent Turkey's relationship with Russia from being a hindrance in the effort against Syria.

Kerry goes to Moscow to inform Putin that it's going to happen and to warn him against getting involved.

The take away from it all, as mentioned, war with Syria is very imminent.
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I love how you already know the motivations behind the coup. I mean, it can't possibly be about conflict between Islamists and moderates (a common theme in Turkey), no, it's about Trump!
 
dannno said:
You know, you can agree with the other 95% of his post without agreeing with the Trump part.
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His narrative is 100% dependent on the theory that Trump is the axis upon which the world spins. Why did you thank him for breaking it down if you didn't pay any attention to that breakdown?
 
acptulsa said:
His narrative is 100% dependent on the theory that Trump is the axis upon which the world spins. Why did you thank him for breaking it down if you didn't pay any attention to that breakdown?
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No, his narrative is dependent on us wanting to attack Syria - the Trump part is just speculation about the timing, it's not necessary for the rest of the narrative.
 
Tywysog Cymru said:
I love how you already know the motivations behind the coup. I mean, it can't possibly be about conflict between Islamists and moderates (a common theme in Turkey), no, it's about Trump!
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No, it's about us attacking Syria.
 
It makes me wonder if Erdogan order the air-force to shoot down the Russian jet doing bombing runs on ISIS, or if the air-force ordered it. I'm still not sold who is on who's side though.... Maybe Erdogan only started trying to get friendly with Putin after he found out his military already was making friends with him.
 
I bet this was supported by Russia. Putin was the only one involved. Probably had Kerry over to watch the whole thing go down and tell him to stay out of it. Ergoden.....sucks ass
 
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