Cops seize legal guns, neighbors say it's "too many".

[pcosmar]

If you wanted to shoot someone, would it be easier holding one gun in your hand, or trying to hold a dozen?

Yes, but if you are a gun collector,,one is a very small collection.

 

[james1906]

This is more along my line of thinking.


I sure wish this guy was my neighbor, because when the shit goes down, I know whose house to go to in order to protect the neighborhood.

+1

I want this guy and Joe Horn living in my neighborhood.

 

[Rael]

Yes, but if you are a gun collector,,one is a very small collection.

I think you missed my point. I'm saying that if their neighbor was a dangerous lunatic, he would only need one of those guns to kill someone, so it makes no sense to say that having more guns can be more dangerous.

 

[Paleo]

I think there are way too many mindless blathering sheep in rockford, IL

 

[GunnyFreedom]

If there had actually been a burglary, wouldn't all those weapons be gone? Especially with their distortion-elevated street value in Illinois?

 

[mrsat_98]

Certainly. Whoever the ranking officer was who made the decision to seize the weapons should be demoted and those who took part in it need a good ass chewing/suspension/etc.

That's not likely to happen unless a lot of people flood the mayor's office with calls, though.

demoted ROFLMAO Locked up.

http://www.ci.rockford.il.us/government/police/index.cfm Police Website. You know what to do.

 

[Slutter McGee]

That is called a mother fucking assertion.
That is called not being able to comprehend the mother fucking english language. It is also backing a mother fucking bullshit assertion with hot air because there are absolutely no citations whatsoever for any studies or evidence on the subject matter of hoarding, rodents, pests, property values, or health dangers to substantiate any use of force.

Sincerely,

LFOD

You seriously want me to present you evidence of this? Here is one example. When a hoarder has children living in unsanitary conditions. THAT justifies the use of "force". I am not going to go around finding scientific evidence for everything i state...especially when said comment is a matter of common sense.

Oh, and your constant use of "mother fucking" sounds ridiculous. Just use the word "fuck." Especially if you are going to repeat it. I would try using "fuck" as an
infix. Brings out originality.

My "assertion" was that you should learn how to read. Because if you had then you would know that I had also said I didn't think that the use of force was good, because even if legitimate it opens up the door for future abuse.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[MelissaWV]

No such thing as too many.

I don't know... I mean, if the guy's actual house were made of guns, and his furniture, and if he had his lawn inlaid with casings, and so on and so forth (a toilet made of handguns... hmm...), that might be "too many." Of course, even then I wouldn't support the police charging in. I'd support the guy's neighbors and family having a chat with him about his obsession

 

[Dr.3D]

You seriously want me to present you evidence of this? Here is one example. When a hoarder has children living in unsanitary conditions. THAT justifies the use of "force". I am not going to go around finding scientific evidence for everything i state...especially when said comment is a matter of common sense.

Oh, and your constant use of "mother fucking" sounds ridiculous. Just use the word "fuck." Especially if you are going to repeat it. I would try using "fuck" as an
infix. Brings out originality.

My "assertion" was that you should learn how to read. Because if you had then you would know that I had also said I didn't think that the use of force was good, because even if legitimate it opens up the door for future abuse.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Think about the children! Don't you care about the children?

 

[pcosmar]

I don't know... I mean, if the guy's actual house were made of guns, and his furniture, and if he had his lawn inlaid with casings, and so on and so forth (a toilet made of handguns... hmm...), that might be "too many." Of course, even then I wouldn't support the police charging in. I'd support the guy's neighbors and family having a chat with him about his obsession

That would be too COOL.
" a chat with him about his obsession " No, how about opening an attraction. A museum even.

Though some might be offended at the destruction of collectible guns in the construction, just the 'cool" factor would be a draw.

Still,
NOT too many.

 

[MelissaWV]

That would be too COOL.
" a chat with him about his obsession " No, how about opening an attraction. A museum even.

Though some might be offended at the destruction of collectible guns in the construction, just the 'cool" factor would be a draw.

Still,
NOT too many.

lol I said "might" be "too many." If you're a neighbor, you might have something to say about something like that popping up. Substitute something you dislike for the guns and you'll see what I mean. I also didn't say the chat had to be negative! Having a chat along the lines of what you just said (an attraction, etc.) would be constructive. Hell, the neighbors would be smart to get in on the action by offering some parking spots in exchange for a portion of income. Property values of houses next to an eyesore go down. Property values of houses next to a well-run exhibit? They might even go up

 

[Slutter McGee]

Think about the children! Don't you care about the children?

"Think about the children" is often the excuse for government intrusion into everything we do. It is used as the end all argument statement. But in this case, it is applicable to the conversation, is not an appeal to emotion. So while I certainly appreciate sarcasm in any situation, it is still misplaced.

I know a woman who kept her dead fetuses in her freezer with the frozen weenies all eleven kids got for dinner everynight before they went to bed on top of piles of dirty dipers and trash. That isn't an exageration. Again, this is not an appeal to emotion, but simply an example of a situation in which children are at risk in a specific environment and it is a legitimate function of the government to step in. That does not mean I support the CPS nazis invading peoples homes for every little thing.

The point is pretty simple. If what you do on your property violates the rights of others, or negatively affects another's property, it is often but not always a legitimate function of government to step in.

Now to get back to the point of the thread. Does that mean they have a right to take the guns....probably not, but we don't have all the details.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[MelissaWV]

...
I know a woman who kept her dead fetuses in her freezer with the frozen weenies all eleven kids got for dinner everynight before they went to bed on top of piles of dirty dipers and trash. That isn't an exageration. Again, this is not an appeal to emotion, but simply an example of a situation in which children are at risk in a specific environment and it is a legitimate function of the government to step in. That does not mean I support the CPS nazis invading peoples homes for every little thing.

The point is pretty simple. If what you do on your property violates the rights of others, or negatively affects another's property, it is often but not always a legitimate function of government to step in.

...

Have you ever asked yourself why, if you know this is going on and you're so repulsed by it, you don't do anything to better this woman's situation? Or, if you think it's Government's role to storm in there and help those children out, you haven't ensured that has happened?

 

[Slutter McGee]

Have you ever asked yourself why, if you know this is going on and you're so repulsed by it, you don't do anything to better this woman's situation? Or, if you think it's Government's role to storm in there and help those children out, you haven't ensured that has happened?

I didn't know about it until the government did step in. The woman always seemed weird, but there was no evidence of such extremely unhealthy living conditions. My point was simply that it was a legitimate function of local government to intervene.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[ninepointfive]

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" do you disagree with, Slutter?

This man can arm a militia. Surely, that's something scary for a person who fears them.

Now I think your post collection in this thread is too many.
I need to bust in to your place so I can conficate your millions of bits of information. It's simply too many bits.

press delete. Forum saved! phew!

 

[Slutter McGee]

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/050609/loc_436811285.shtml

Incase any of you think I am full of it.

"It knocked us down," Kari Kotara said. "It was atrocious. You could smell it from the front porch - you could smell it back to our unit."

Jurors saw for the first time Tuesday pictures of the home where police found five of Ramirez's children huddled in the backyard and two near death inside.

They found squalid conditions and the dead fetus in a baby wipes box in a refrigerator. Rotten food, clothing and trash covered the floors and filled the washing machine and oven. Dirty diapers cascaded out of a closet and onto the floors covered in bugs and roach eggs. The bathroom was piled high with toilet paper caked with blood and human waste.

The youngest child was naked, her vaginal area swollen from laying immobile in her crib. Ramirez's second youngest child lay on a soiled mattress, lice crawling in her hair, unable to lift her head. Feces soaked through her diaper and dried urine ate her skin, Kotara said.
The skin breakdown was so severe, just putting in an IV could cause a serious infection.
Technicians had to clean the dehydrated, emaciated 2-year-old just to administer aid. They later had to decontaminate themselves and their ambulance to keep from exposing other patients to the bacteria covering the child.

"She was so depleted, you could count every rib all the way down," Kotara said.

There is plenty more out there. But...damn that evil government stepping in for the welfare of children. And yes I would have called the police on her if I had known.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[Slutter McGee]

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" do you disagree with, Slutter?

This man can arm a militia. Surely, that's something scary for a person who fears them.

Now I think your post collection in this thread is too many.
I need to bust in to your place so I can conficate your millions of bits of information. It's simply too many bits.

press delete. Forum saved! phew!

Dude, you are missing my argument completely. We should be able to have as many guns as we want. My point is simply that environmental situations can often pose a serious risk to others. And when police step in, these situations create something that is not quite as simple as " SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee

 

[pmbug]

Re: OP - I'd be more outraged at the confiscation if either the owner were home or the house weren't basically open to the world after being broken into.

The neighbors are retarded.

 

[ninepointfive]

Dude, you are missing my argument completely. We should be able to have as many guns as we want. My point is simply that environmental situations can often pose a serious risk to others. And when police step in, these situations create something that is not quite as simple as " SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee

Okay. So you are saying the home and it's effects may have been a threat which infringes upon the liberties of the neighbors?

 

[Slutter McGee]

Okay. So you are saying the home and it's effects may have been a threat which infringes upon the liberties of the neighbors?

not so much a threat, but more a potential danger to others property. Again I don't know the details. And if no potential danger was present then I disagree with confiscation of firearms. But the hoarder issue does complicate things.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee