Cops seize legal guns, neighbors say it's "too many".

[acptulsa]

People who have a problem with "hoarders" are little more than gossipy small minded people who should tend to their own business. As for having a large number of firearms, a person can only use one or two at the most at a time. The rest of those firearms can sit there and be in storage in the home and not cause any problem on their own.

People need to mind their own business!

Thank you. It doesn't take but about twelve seconds of rational thought to realize he doesn't have enough room in that house to have the Chinese Army over for a keg party. Therefore, even if he can operate one with his feet, that only makes one percent of the hoard that could be dangerous to someone at any one time.

 

[Pericles]

Are the police now in the business of making laws? How many is too many? 4? 12? 57? 122?

is this a trick question? You can never have too many weapons.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The problem here is the word "legitimate". Such situations, even if they are legitimate, can open up the door to future abuse. I recognize that.

Agreed that this story is a little "gray" but I still maintain that the threat from arms and ammo is minuscule compared to threats from common household chemicals, improperly stored.

That opens a can of worms if such a fungible word as "legitimate" is used as a guideline to what cops can do in such a situation.

The fact remains, the house was empty, there was no threat of danger or safety issues readily apparent from the outside, the only reason the cops showed up was because of the burglary call.

Had that not happened, no one would have been the wiser.

 

[Bruno]

is this a trick question? You can never have too many weapons.

it was a rhetorical question

 

[Humanae Libertas]

Are the police now in the business of making laws? How many is too many? 4? 12? 57? 122?

Having a single firearm is too many to these cops.

 

[acptulsa]

Having a single firearm is too many to these cops.

Yet I'll wager that not one of them has less than three at home.

 

[Slutter McGee]

People who have a problem with "hoarders" are little more than gossipy small minded people who should tend to their own business. As for having a large number of firearms, a person can only use one or two at the most at a time. The rest of those firearms can sit there and be in storage in the home and not cause any problem on their own.

People need to mind their own business!

Hoarders are often the business of neighbors. Often they create unbearable stench, attract rodents and pests which can infest in neighbor's properties, lower property values dramatically, and pose a health danger to others.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[Dr.3D]

Hoarders are often the business of neighbors. Often they create unbearable stench, attract rodents and pests which can infest in neighbor's properties, lower property values dramatically, and pose a health danger to others.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Yeah, we need to make a law that people need to wash their dishes and clean up their homes everyday. I'm sure that would make a lot of busybody people happy.
/sarcasm

Just because someone doesn't live the same way as the majority of people, it doesn't mean those people should have to conform to the majority.

Yeah, complain about the smell, rodents and pests, but don't bother the person if they live in a messy home. We don't need nosy neighbors inflicting their standard of living on those who don't live up to their expectations.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

Hoarders are often the business of neighbors. Often they create unbearable stench, attract rodents and pests which can infest in neighbor's properties, lower property values dramatically, and pose a health danger to others.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Please back statist bullshit advocating the use of force against innocent individuals up with some facts.

Sincerely,

LFOD

 

[KCIndy]

So far, I've not seen the most pertinent question asked:

HOW DID THE POLICE KNOW ABOUT THE GUNS IN THE FIRST PLACE???

Did the homeowner shoot his mouth off? (no pun intended) Did someone see the guns and rat him out?

OR:

Police say a 67 year-old man owns the home and the weapons. He is a legally registered gun owner.

There's yer problem right there....


PS if shoes were guns, my wife would be arrested for having an "arsenal" in our house...


EDIT: Okay, just re-read it. Didn't catch the part about the burglary call.... I guess I pulled the trigger too early on that one. (Pun intended!)

 

[Bruno]

So far, I've not seen the most pertinent question asked:

HOW DID THE POLICE KNOW ABOUT THE GUNS IN THE FIRST PLACE???

Did the homeowner shoot his mouth off? (no pun intended) Did someone see the guns and rat him out?

OR:



There's yer problem right there....


PS if shoes were guns, my wife would be arrested for having an "arsenal" in our house...

The homeowner wasn't home. Did you miss this part?

Police were called to this home just after two this morning. They arrived after neighbors called about a burglary. When police got inside the home, they found empty shell casings and a variety of weapons, from shotguns to rifles.

 

[KCIndy]

The homeowner wasn't home. Did you miss this part?

Police were called to this home just after two this morning. They arrived after neighbors called about a burglary. When police got inside the home, they found empty shell casings and a variety of weapons, from shotguns to rifles.

Yeah, somehow I actually did miss that.... I've already posted an "edit" correction at the bottom of the post... my mistake! :o

 

[Dr.3D]

"At the current time we're taking the firearms for safe keeping as evidence until we can further investigate this," says Deputy Chief Lindmark.

Shouldn't this read.... "At the current time, we can't find anything to charge this man with, so we are keeping his property until we can find something to charge him for." ???

They have no right to keep the property of an innocent person. From where do these people get their training?

They can't determine his guilt till they come up with a charge to pin on him.

 

[Slutter McGee]

Please back statist bullshit advocating the use of force against innocent individuals up with some facts.

Sincerely,

LFOD

I have already stated that I find the confiscation of fire arms from the individual questionable, but I simply recognized that this is not as black and white as most cases on here.

Surely we agree that the only limits that should be placed on private property use should only come when such uses violate the equal rights of others to be secure in their property. Which is kinda what I said.

But apprently you can't fucking read. Guess that makes me a statist.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I have already stated that I find the confiscation of fire arms from the individual questionable, but I simply recognized that this is not as black and white as most cases on here.

Surely we agree that the only limits that should be placed on private property use should only come when such uses violate the equal rights of others to be secure in their property. Which is kinda what I said.

But apprently you can't fucking read. Guess that makes me a statist.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

I appreciate the point you are trying to make with your argument but unless the owner of the firearms in question was shooting into other people's homes unprovoked than it is absolutely nobody elses business how they were stored in his home.

IF the man does have a hoarding issue than it is nobody else business but his and his families. Is he piling garbage on someone else's property? The article did not indicate that he was so if the neighbors have a problem with it than maybe they should make the decision to move and let someone live in their home who does not have a problem living there.

You and I have NO right at all to dictate how this man should live it is afterall his personal choice to keep his place like that. You may not agree with his lifestyle but you do not have to live there and if we cannot believe in personal freedom for those we disagree with than do we really believe in it at all?

 

[erowe1]

How many guns do they have at the police station?

If it's not too many for the government, then it can't be too many for anyone else.

 

[devil21]

I have already stated that I find the confiscation of fire arms from the individual questionable, but I simply recognized that this is not as black and white as most cases on here.

Surely we agree that the only limits that should be placed on private property use should only come when such uses violate the equal rights of others to be secure in their property. Which is kinda what I said.

But apprently you can't fucking read. Guess that makes me a statist.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Please explain how being a hoarder means his gun collection is violating someone else's rights and security. I would appreciate some legal backing for your argument.

This is also assuming the whole "hoarder" portion of the story is true, rather than a cover story for the cops to justify their theft.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Hey, hey, hey, Slutter McGee's comments are too many and pose a danger to liberty minded people around here. MOD, can you ban Slutter for our security? Sheesh...

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

Hoarders are often the business of neighbors. Often they create unbearable stench, attract rodents and pests which can infest in neighbor's properties, lower property values dramatically, and pose a health danger to others.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

That is called a mother fucking assertion.

I have already stated that I find the confiscation of fire arms from the individual questionable, but I simply recognized that this is not as black and white as most cases on here.

Surely we agree that the only limits that should be placed on private property use should only come when such uses violate the equal rights of others to be secure in their property. Which is kinda what I said.

But apprently you can't fucking read. Guess that makes me a statist.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

That is called not being able to comprehend the mother fucking english language. It is also backing a mother fucking bullshit assertion with hot air because there are absolutely no citations whatsoever for any studies or evidence on the subject matter of hoarding, rodents, pests, property values, or health dangers to substantiate any use of force.

Sincerely,

LFOD

 

[Danke]

He did have too many. He should have been sharing them with the neighbors.