Cop Shoots Dog [VIDEO]

Like I said before, he even risked being mauled by reaching his hand out and the dog became aggressive and lunged at his hand.

Exactly. What do you think the chances were of this turning out any differently after he decided to approach the dog like that?

It's not like he whistled the dog over to where he was standing and it charged. It's not like they let the owner talk to the dog and eased tension on the scene and it just charged.

The cop approached the dog after it just saw them manhandling it's master whose yelling at them not to shoot it with his gun pointed at it and his arm out. What else did he think was gonna happen in that situation? He was just gonna pet it? Grab it by the collar and arrest it?
 
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This one is justified in my opinion.
To affirm that you would have to also affirm that the charge/detention was legitimate. What right had the officer to arrest this man? Obstructing, huh? How is it obstructing when you are a block away filming and commenting on a massive militarized drug raid?

They are trained to shoot first. There are alternatives. The dog did what a dog is going to do. The police did what they routinely do. That being, arrest people on trumped up charges and shoot first, without hesitation.

But as I've said, to state this shooting was justifiable you must also affirm that the arrest was justifiable. A dog protecting his owner from an unlawful arrest is the same as a person protecting themselves from an unlawful arrest. To be clear, they both have consequences the same.
 
But as I've said, to state this shooting was justifiable you must also affirm that the arrest was justifiable. A dog protecting his owner from an unlawful arrest is the same as a person protecting themselves from an unlawful arrest. To be clear, they both have consequences the same.

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Youre wrong because the arrest was illegal. The dog is in the right.
This. I don't give a damn if the dog bit the officers until the handcuffs were taken off and the owner had a chance to subdue it.

Unlawful arrest is unlawful. Seeing that the dog got shot anyways, I wish he would have bit one of those cocksuckers. Maybe make them think twice about the next time they trump up charges on a person.
 
anyone that thinks this is justified, needs to be re-incarnated as a dog...then get shot by a cop. Then report back how it felt.

fucking hell.

I lost my best friend, and female mix, Katie, to cancer a few months ago. I'm still crying.

fuckin bastard cops. Killing dogs like its open season....fuck, and fuck.
 
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Exactly. What do you think the chances were of this turning out any differently after he decided to approach the dog like that?

It's not like he whistled the dog over to where he was standing and it charged. It's not like they let the owner talk to the dog and eased tension on the scene and it just charged.

The cop approached the dog after it just saw them manhandling it's master whose yelling at them not to shoot it with his gun pointed at it and his arm out. What else did he think was gonna happen in that situation? He was just gonna pet it? Grab it by the collar and arrest it?

You act like the cop had forever to respond... this happened in a few seconds... The officer only had a short period to make a decision. He decided to try and grab the dog's collar instead of shooting it (trigger happy cops shoot the dogs as soon as they charge) the dog became aggressive and tried to bite him. At that point he was justified in killing the dog.

To affirm that you would have to also affirm that the charge/detention was legitimate. What right had the officer to arrest this man? Obstructing, huh? How is it obstructing when you are a block away filming and commenting on a massive militarized drug raid?

They are trained to shoot first. There are alternatives. The dog did what a dog is going to do. The police did what they routinely do. That being, arrest people on trumped up charges and shoot first, without hesitation.

But as I've said, to state this shooting was justifiable you must also affirm that the arrest was justifiable. A dog protecting his owner from an unlawful arrest is the same as a person protecting themselves from an unlawful arrest. To be clear, they both have consequences the same.
You're assuming the cop who shot the dog is the same cop who decided to arrest this man on these charges (assuming the charges are bullshit). For all we know he feels like shit for being put in that messed up situation by his fellow cop and killing the dog.
 
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Youre wrong because the arrest was illegal. The dog is in the right.

anyone that thinks this is justified, needs to be re-incarnated as a dog...then get shot by a cop. Then report back how it felt.

fucking hell.

I lost my best friend, and female mix, Katie, to cancer a few months ago. I'm still crying.

fuckin bastard cops. Killing dogs like its open season....fuck, and fuck.

Clearly I am a cop-loving dog-hater. Thanks for the neg rep WM and vague death wish JK/SEA.
 
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You act as if the cop who shot the dog is the same cop who decided to arrest this man on these charges (assuming the charges are bullshit). For all we know he feels like shit for being put in that messed up situation by his fellow cop and killing the dog.
As he should. Truth be told he would have assisted in the illegal detention/arrest of the man in any case. Failure to do so would cost him his 30 pieces and have him labelled mentally incompetent. (see Regina Tasca for an example)

I wonder though, what outcome or policy changes do you expect from this? The officers who showed a willingness to trump up charges on a man fired? Reprimanded with pay? If anything the latter. An apology will not so much as be issued aside to say the incident was "unfortunate" while admitting no blame. Mark my words.

And I just noticed the "assuming these charges are bullshit" parenthesized. How aren't they? You are a block away from a heavily armed and armored militarized pig Battalion and you are obstructing justice or "official business"? How about them obstructing the roadway? Is that not an ticketable offense? The charge is nothing short of bullshit. It is a snare-all used only when you are an annoyance to the police or they wish to exercise petty power over you. Obstructing the police, that's good. They obstruct thousands of people (productive people, I'd add) daily. They get medals. You go to jail until the bullshit charges dropped or plead out at disorderly conduct paying for the proceedings, the attorney, the fees and fines.
 
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Clearly I am a cop-loving dog-hater. Thanks for the neg rep WM and vague death wish JK/SEA.

Clearly you can't see another way to handle this incident. The dog ran TO his owner then stopped. Clearly the poor thing was in distress, the situation could have been handled much better.

The situation shouldn't have even happened in the first place, there was no reason to arrest the man. None whatsoever.

"Policy was followed, safety was ensured"
 
As he should. Truth be told he would have assisted in the illegal detention/arrest of the man in any case. Failure to do so would cost him his 30 pieces and have him labelled mentally incompetent. (see Regina Tasca for an example)

I wonder though, what outcome or policy changes do you expect from this? The officers who showed a willingness to trump up charges on a man fired? Reprimanded with pay? If anything the latter. An apology will not so much as be issued aside to say the incident was "unfortunate" while admitting no blame. Mark my words.
I don't expect any policy changes.

And I just noticed the "assuming these charges are bullshit" parenthesized. How aren't they? You are a block away from a heavily armed and armored militarized pig Battalion and you are obstructing justice or "official business"? How about them obstructing the roadway? Is that not an ticketable offense? The charge is nothing short of bullshit. It is a snare-all used only when you are an annoyance to the police or they wish to exercise petty power over you. Obstructing the police, that' ds good. They obstruct thousands of people (productive people, I'd add) daily. They get medals. You go to jail until the bullshit charges dropped or plead out at disorderly conduct paying for the proceedings, the attorney, the fees and fines.
Because unlike you I don't assume to know all the facts about what happened based on one YouTube video and a news report, that quite frankly, doesn't illuminate any facts about why the man was arrested.
 
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I couldn't watch the video, but here's a not too graphic pic of the officer wearing the cool shades firing away and the dog going down (saw this link on the Hawthorne PD Facebook page, I don't do 4chan myself) :

http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1372720809537.png

For those of us who are concerned about such things, this picture could be as iconic as the "lady in red" pic from Istanbul -- the new face of "Officer Friendly" for some who have been asleep ...

And , before it all disappears, some of you might want to see the angry postings the PD's Facebook page, the are 100% anti-police ... now if people could just turn internet rage into something real, maybe things could change for the better ...

https://www.facebook.com/hawthornepolice
 
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Because unlike you I don't assume to know all the facts about what happened based on one YouTube video and a news report, that quite frankly, doesn't illuminate any facts about why the man was arrested.
Yawn. Rewatch the video, find me evidence of a crime, post the time it occurred and I'll give it a look. Aside from that it is kind of amusing to say I'm jumping to conclusions when the camera doesn't lie. This isn't second hand hearsay, what is on video is what happened. Point. Blank. Period.

As an aside I've seen it enough times personally, I've seen it countless times on video, I've read about dozens of times, I know how pigs are, their tactics and what they do so even if there were no video, it would be no stretch of the mind to understand the man probably wasn't obstructing their unnecessary, costly, militarized show of force. Not to mention, as evidenced BY THE VIDEO, they'll shut down an entire road with multiple cop cars and an APC and have the audacity to trump a charge of obstructing justice of all things. (or whatever the law be named in California.. Obstructing Official Business, Obstructing a Public Official, etc.)

I've even seen a case of them charging a man with obstructing traffic for waving around a sign warning people of an upcoming obstruction in traffic. That of course being an unconstitutional DUI checkpoint. Or was it a seat belt checkpoint? In either case, this charge is unlawfully trumped up on hundreds of people daily with no repercussions when the charge is reduced (probably 90%+) or plead out to avoid the certain fact that a pig's word is worth more than yours and the fact that cops and judges (the entire system really) have a special relationship with each other. Plead out and get a $250 fine + court costs and fees, or take it all the way and risk up to six months in jail and not exceeding $1,000. (+court costs and fees) Bullshit snare-all charge is bullshit. It's for the purposes of revenue generation, intimidation and compliance. It is also used as a threat if you question the legality of their actions or affirm your rights.
 
Well, some people love dogs, and they are family members. Some people eat dogs, and some people...like cops, don't give a fuck because they are power hungry punks who just look for an excuse to show how fucking tough they are by shooting an innocent animal....fuck this shit. And fuck and fuck fuck. No excuse. NONE!
 
When they're not shooting dogs, Hawthorne police also enjoy tasering autistic children.
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_15607803

I'm literally shaking in anger after watching the video.

If you Support Your Local Police, THIS is the kind of thing you're willing to countenance. Functionaries who would kidnap a peaceful, innocent man and then murder his dog have no place among decent people.
 
The rest of the video isn't much more graphic than that still shot. It's actually a very short part at the end and it's from a distance.

Apparently they arrested him and charged him with obstructing over his radio:

PINAC:

UPDATE: The man who was arrested, Leon Rosby, was charged with obstructing officers.

According to CBS:

Attorney Michael Gulden said his client Leon Rosby was watching and taking video of the Hawthorne SWAT team when police claimed Rosby was obstructing officers during the barricade.

Rosby is seen in video footage walking with the dog – which appeared to be a Rottweiler – near several patrol cars to capture the scene on his phone.

After an exchange with nearby officers, Rosby is heard saying the words, “civil rights violation” before returning the dog to his vehicle.

As officers begin to proceed toward Rosby, he also begins walking in the direction of the officers and is then taken into custody without any further exchange.

According to the Daily Breeze, Rosby was arrested because he had refused to turn down his car radio, which can be heard in the video.

The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police cars and the department’s Bearcat armored vehicle.

As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly.

“It’s distracting the officers,” Swain said. “It’s interfering with what they are able to hear. It’s not just a party call. It’s an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what’s going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in his car is bleeding over and it’s distracting them.”

It still doesn’t make sense considering Rosby walked back to his car, placed his dog inside, then walked back to the cops and allowed himself to be arrested.

Why didn’t he just turn down the music when he placed the dog back inside?

If he was so defiant about the music, wouldn’t he have been more defiant about getting arrested?

Here is a video recorded before the above video from when Rosby pulled up to the scene, parked his car and stepped out to begin recording.


http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_23578147/hawthorne-police-kill-dog-during-arrest-owner

dailybreeze said:
A Hawthorne man complained Monday that police officers needlessly killed his Rottweiler as they took him into custody for allegedly causing a disturbance at a crime



scene.
The shooting, captured on cellphone video, began to go viral following its posting Sunday night on YouTube. The video shows the dog jumping through the open window of Leon Rosby's car and lunging at the officers after they handcuffed him. One male officer fired about four shots, wounding the dog and sending it squirming in the street.

"There was no way Max should have died like that," Rosby said. "Max was only protecting his master. He was trying to stop them from beating on me."

Police said the dog lunged at officers, giving them no choice but to shoot it.

"It looks like the officer tried to reach down and grab the leash, and then the dog lunges in the direction of him and the other officers there,"

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Hawthorne police Lt. Scott Swain said. "And I know it's the dog's master, and more than likely not going to attack him, (but) we've got a guy handcuffed that's kind of defenseless. We have a duty to defend him, too."
The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police cars and the department's Bearcat armored vehicle.

As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly.

"It's distracting the officers," Swain said. "It's interfering with what they are able to hear. It's not just a party call. It's an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what's going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in


Hawthorne resident Leon Rosby talks about his encounter with Hawthorne Police Sunday at 137th St. and Jefferson Ave. that ended with his Rottweiler Max being shot to death by officers. Rosby stands near the blood spattered sidewalk where his dog was killed. (Robert Casillas / Staff Photographer)
his car is bleeding over and it's distracting them."
Martinez said the Usher song "Tell Me Again" was looping over and over.

Rosby, who pulled out his own cellphone to record the police activity, did not lower the volume.

"I do apologize if I didn't immediately comply. The music may have been a little loud but I was complying," Rosby said. "I said, 'Sir, I want to make sure nobody's civil rights were being violated.' "

A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, "It's my (expletive) radio!"

Rosby, 52, denied cursing, saying he was a Christian.

Once police arrested the suspected robber, officers motioned to Rosby and began walking toward him. Swain said they intended to arrest him and told him to put the dog in his car. He complied.

The video shows him putting the dog in the car, but leaving the windows open. Rosby said he walked toward officers, turned and put his hands behind his back, and waited for them to arrest him. The video shows the dog barking as officers took him into custody.

Suddenly, the 130-pound, 3-year-old dog jumped out of the car and ran at them.

"I said, 'No, Max!' " Rosby said. The dog is seen lunging at the officer, who fired several shots.

"He literally shot my puppy I had since he was 6 weeks old," Rosby said.

The dog died in the street.

"I was crying and hollering, 'My dog! My dog! Max! Max!' " he said.

Rosby spent the night in jail on suspicion of obstruction and was released at 5 a.m. Monday.

He said Monday he believed police were retaliating against him because of previous run-ins and struggles with officers. Court records show he has previous convictions for resisting, battery and driving under the influence. Rosby, who is black, said he has filed six complaints against the Hawthorne Police Department, alleging mistreatment and racial profiling.

Rosby filed a lawsuit against the city of Hawthorne and two police officers in March, contending officers broke one of his ribs when they responded to a domestic violence disturbance at his house, not far from the dog shooting scene.

"There's been a pattern of harassment against him and other African-Americans in Hawthorne," said Rosby's attorney, Michael Gulden. "Last July, the police responded to his home and beat him unnecessarily, then threw him in jail for no reason. We sued for that. We'll amend that complaint to include the dog incident."

Rosby, a husband and father, said police should have taken his handcuffs off so he could corral the dog. There also was no need to arrest him, he said.

"Why did they not just let me go when I put him in the car?" he asked.

Rosby said he and Max had spent their last moments together at the Lawndale dog park. The dog kept licking him on the back of the neck in his car as he drove.

"All he did was love me," he said.

Staff writer Sandy Mazza contributed to this article.
 
You act like the cop had forever to respond... this happened in a few seconds... The officer only had a short period to make a decision. He decided to try and grab the dog's collar instead of shooting it (trigger happy cops shoot the dogs as soon as they charge) the dog became aggressive and tried to bite him. At that point he was justified in killing the dog.

I'm not at all, and I'm aware of how short it took.

It's not an instinctual reaction to approach a big dog with your arm out and it takes about long to understand the ramifications as it does to consciously choose to act upon it.
 
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