Cop Loses Badge Over YouTube Video That Shows Him Body-Checking Bicyclist

[Thor]

wrong thread.. got this mixed up with the 16 yo broken back due to the last post but anyway.....

I can completely understand why cops are guarded. I agree with what oyate said, except for rolling the winda down all the way, I would only roll it down enough to pass them my license, registration and insurance. I don't want anyone I don't know personally sticking their head in my vehicle. Well, maybe Ron Paul.

That said, lets turn the tables. Say you were tazed umpteen times 10 seconds each time, would you want to "kill em"? If so, would you have the capacity to keep your mouth shut in that state? He is a 16 yo boy for chrissakes, who most likely, up until that moment, felt invincible.
God I would give just about anything to go back to my "invincible" mind set.

I did not read the story (so maybe I should instead of posting the question), but what came first, the 16 YO saying he wanted to kill them, or the tazing? If the tazing was first, then I could see the reaction. If the threats to the cops came first, then I can see them reacting.

 

[revolutionary8]

wrong thread.. got this mixed up with the 16 yo broken back due to the last post but anyway.....



I did not read the story (so maybe I should instead of posting the question), but what came first, the 16 YO saying he wanted to kill them, or the tazing? If the tazing was first, then I could see the reaction. If the threats to the cops came first, then I can see them reacting.

The article doesn't specify, so unless someone has the actual police report, I don't know.
That said, I wouldn't believe a word these bastards said or reported. It is CYA now. 19 fucking times? 10 fucking seconds each time? On top a broken back? These dudes are psycho.

 

[libertarian4321]

Even if this guy had just killed 300 people 20 minutes earlier, and the officer was taking him down, the only thing that matters is that on the video it shows the cop tackling him first, and that the guy couldn't have done anything prior that wasn't shown on video?

If the guy was a mass murderer, its 1) unlikely he'd be riding a bicycle in a public event and 2) even more unlikely that a uniformed cop on foot doing crowd control at the public event would be the guy to "take him down."

Look, you're a cop, so you have blinders on- you will always assume that the cop can do no wrong, and that the citizen is always wrong. Its not uncommon.

The cop is going down- he assaulted the cyclist after making no attempt to stop him (assault is assault, even if the thug committing it is wearing a uniform). He knew he did wrong, so he lied in his report to cover up his assault. However, the tape clearly shows that the cyclist swerved to avoid him, and the cop, who was twice his size, stepped into him and threw a shoulder- he's lucky the cyclist didn't break his neck.

Even if the cyclist called him a name or flipped him the bird, that does not justify the cop's actions.

Just because you throw on a uniform does not give you the right to act like a thug, and this cop is a thug.

I hope he not only loses his job, I hope he gets jail time AND gets sued...

 

[Join The Paul Side]

I don't think there are that many bad cops. Trust me, if you know what we have to go through during the hiring process, you would be amazed. The hiring process does an amazing job at weeding out the bad eggs.

I think the "bad cops" are mostly just in small departments out in the middle of nowhere, where the sheriff lets his nephews be deputies and all his friends. Or small towns with like 3 officers where everyone knows everyone and the chief of police is the father of all the officers. Those kind of places, ones that don't really hire. And there are still quite a few departments like that. Of course since those officers did not go through a real hiring process, they didn't get weeded out ..

but in real departments, if you're a bad egg, you're not getting the job

Not. Want to see a department infested with bad cops? Take a look at Boynton Beach PD in Palm Beach County, Florida. That would be a good start for you. But man, they really got you sold on this crap you say you believe in, don't they? It's OK. We know you're just serving your master.

 

[revolutionary8]

Not. Want to see a department infested with bad cops? Take a look at Boynton Beach PD in Palm Beach County, Florida. That would be a good start for you. But man, they really got you sold on this crap you say you believe in, don't they? It's OK. We know you're just serving your master.

No that isn't it JTPS, I don't think. It is just as Long stated as they assaulted him then lied in their report to justify their brutality--- "You are just a pwn in the game".
Aren't we all.
I would prefer to be a Rook (Rooks charge) rather than a pwn, OR royalty, so I am trying to work my way up.

 

[brandon]

The cop should be charged with treason, found guilty, and executed. Anyone on these forums who is trying to justify the that cop's behavior needs their head examined.

 

[brandon]

THe guy was not a mass murderer or criminal of any sort. If you read the article you will see that he was only charged with "assaulting an officer." Of course the assault was when he purposely hit the cop with his bicycle.

 

[revolutionary8]

Moving question to correct thread-

Who knows about the critical mass? Isn't the entire point of the mass- civil disobedience? Isn't the entire point of the mass to obstruct motorized traffic?

If Long was arrested because he was "obstructing traffic", as the falsified report states, wouldn't that suggest that he was being singled out for no good reason? Isn't that discrimination?

 

[Oyate]

Who knows about the critical mass? Isn't the entire point of the mass- civil disobedience?

Read the thread. NY courts have found that Critical Mass doesn't even need a parade or rally permit for what they do. The courts have found their rides to be legal activity.

 

[revolutionary8]

Read the thread. NY courts have found that Critical Mass doesn't even need a parade or rally permit for what they do. The courts have found their rides to be legal activity.

Thanks, that is what I read, and thought, but I figured I would ask just to prove a point. I say the reason for arrest-----"obstructing traffic" is as bogus as the charges documented in the falsified report - "assaulting an officer" and "disorderly conduct". Now, does that leave us with resisting arrest?
We will be able to gauge ego size when/ if (not) they drop (any of) the charge/s.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

And your case is provided by Prison Plantet

Actually, they were just reporting what they found at AOL News...

http://news.aol.com/article/youtube-clip-shows-cop-shoving-cyclist/104938

 

[bluto20]

why are there cops out in the middle of a street anyways while, bikes are considered, motor vehicles are oncoming? that's like walking out into oncoming traffic and expecting not to get hit. the cops should be the ones responsible for their own actions.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

CopThatSupportsRonPaul:

You're obviously not a cop, and no cop with any intelligence would appreciate you speaking for them.

 

[westmich4paul]

I don't think there are that many bad cops. Trust me, if you know what we have to go through during the hiring process, you would be amazed. The hiring process does an amazing job at weeding out the bad eggs.

I think the "bad cops" are mostly just in small departments out in the middle of nowhere, where the sheriff lets his nephews be deputies and all his friends. Or small towns with like 3 officers where everyone knows everyone and the chief of police is the father of all the officers. Those kind of places, ones that don't really hire. And there are still quite a few departments like that. Of course since those officers did not go through a real hiring process, they didn't get weeded out ..

but in real departments, if you're a bad egg, you're not getting the job

Ok I am going to try to be as non abrasive about this as possible. Shown what you see in the video given and reading the charges that were brought against the cyclist are you really trying to tell me that you actually do not believe the cop was in the wrong? Now granted if the cyclist was smoking a joint and the cop saw it and that was the charge listed on the report well then I could buy into your theory. But the charges as listed clearly are not what happened on the video. You can see the cyclist moving away from the officer as he walked inot the said direction of the bike. The charge of resisting arrest I also find it hard to believe because the force used to knock him down I am sure left him down because you can see the officer standing over him at the end of the clip. The charges filed are completely bogus to the video. I mean hell you could even try to say well maybe he did something in violation of the law, but the charges to not match this theory and also Rodney king also violated the law but yet charges of police brutality were also brought up.

This officer did not need to use the excessive force as was shown in the video to apprehend this individual. Just the basic fact that you are trying to defend a fellow brother cop says volumes about how cops will back each other even when one is claerly a black eye to his badge and his dept. You wonder why the general population doesn't trust you guys anymore?

One bad apple can spoil the bunch but one bad apple who is defended by a bunch of other bad apples just sours the whole orchard.

Just remeber this as we inch closer to a fascist state it will be the boys in blue who are the first responders in taking of your liberty.

 

[CUnknown]

Use of force is called "assault" if there is no legal validity to it (and in this case there was NONE).

This case is clear cut. The officer in question should not merely lose his job. He should also face charges of assault, and perjury for the false testimony. Losing his job is a "slap on the wrist."

And federal charges should at least be considered under 18 USC 242 (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/crim/242fin.htm)

That cop should definitely be charged with criminal assault and tried in a court! Although he'd probably just plea-bargain seeing as the evidence against him is overwhelming. There is also a witness behind the cyclist who will testify that the attack was unprovoked. Then you have the cop lying on the police report, too.

Just an awful abuse of power.

 

[Unspun]

Even if this guy had just killed 300 people 20 minutes earlier, and the officer was taking him down, the only thing that matters is that on the video it shows the cop tackling him first, and that the guy couldn't have done anything prior that wasn't shown on video?

He didn't kill 300 people. He didn't kill one person. If he did, we would have heard those charges and surely none of us would have a problem with the force used to bring down some crazy guy who killed someone--or 300 people. Therefore, your logic fails on a colossal level.

CopThatSupportsRonPaul:

You're obviously not a cop, and no cop with any intelligence would appreciate you speaking for them.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Ok I am going to try to be as non abrasive about this as possible. Shown what you see in the video given and reading the charges that were brought against the cyclist are you really trying to tell me that you actually do not believe the cop was in the wrong? Now granted if the cyclist was smoking a joint and the cop saw it and that was the charge listed on the report well then I could buy into your theory. But the charges as listed clearly are not what happened on the video. You can see the cyclist moving away from the officer as he walked inot the said direction of the bike. The charge of resisting arrest I also find it hard to believe because the force used to knock him down I am sure left him down because you can see the officer standing over him at the end of the clip. The charges filed are completely bogus to the video. I mean hell you could even try to say well maybe he did something in violation of the law, but the charges to not match this theory and also Rodney king also violated the law but yet charges of police brutality were also brought up.

This officer did not need to use the excessive force as was shown in the video to apprehend this individual. Just the basic fact that you are trying to defend a fellow brother cop says volumes about how cops will back each other even when one is claerly a black eye to his badge and his dept. You wonder why the general population doesn't trust you guys anymore?

One bad apple can spoil the bunch but one bad apple who is defended by a bunch of other bad apples just sours the whole orchard.

Just remeber this as we inch closer to a fascist state it will be the boys in blue who are the first responders in taking of your liberty.

So true, my brother.

 

[angelatc]

Yes, this is true. However, I do not trust Prison Planet to provide me with a remotely accurate interpretation of events outside of that. I expect Prison Planet is manipulating the info in some way shape or form to suit AJ's agenda.

It was on a plethora of other blogs yesterday. I saw it and I don't read Prison Planet.

And for the record I hate cops. And they have a union: their wages are fine.

 

[angelatc]

The cop should be charged with treason, found guilty, and executed. Anyone on these forums who is trying to justify the that cop's behavior needs their head examined.

I do not support the death penalty, but I could be convinced to make an exception for government officials who abuse the power the position and trust of the people.

THis probably isn't a death penalty case though. He should be booted off the force, but he won't be. Thanks to the unions, it practically takes an act of Congress to get bad cops off the payroll.

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

And for the record I hate cops.

'cept when you need us.

Typical human leech on society...