Cop Loses Badge Over YouTube Video That Shows Him Body-Checking Bicyclist

[revolutionary8]

I found the video to be extremely bizarre, the important to thing to remember with these sorts of stories (and video footage in general as stated above) is that the whole story is unknown to us. But, at the very least, I think the behaviour of the cop was excessive force.

What part of the story do we not know? 1) officer used excessive force 2) officer falsified a criminal complaint stating that the cyclist ran in to him, when we know that is a LIE.
Now, tell me again why I need to hear "the rest of the story" from that lying sob?

 

[revolutionary8]

Before one calls excessive force, we most know all the circumstances.

If an officer orders someone to stop, and the person fails to stop, then forcefully getting them to stop (as was done in the video) is certainly not excessive force. What was the officer to do, say to himself "oh well, that guy didn't stop. Guess I'll have to catch him later."
?

Please...

Please is right. Officer falsifies a criminal complaint, and we are supposed to believe his lies over what we see with our own eyes.

 

[yongrel]

Please is right. Officer falsifies a criminal complaint, and we are supposed to believe his lies over what we see with our own eyes.

And your case is provided by Prison Plantet

 

[malkusm]

I love it when someone who knows what they are talking about shows up at RPF.

And I hate it when RPF sticks its fingers in its ears and says "Nah nah nah! I'm not listening!"

Anyway... welcome to the forums, Cop!

Are you being serious? I agree with him that we don't know the full story, but there are some valid points here.

1) The cop didn't offer any signal for the biker to stop. However, I'm willing to admit that this could have been necessary, as again, we don't know the story. Perhaps if he had alerted the biker to his intentions, he would not have been able to apprehend him.

2) The cop flat-out lied, in an official police report. The biker is pretty obviously going out of his way (steering farther and farther to the LEFT of the frame) to AVOID the officer, who continues to pursue him and finally body-checks him to the pavement.

Again, maybe his actions were warranted, I wouldn't argue with you there. But if the cop doesn't have anything to hide, why not just say in the police report, "This is what the suspect did, this is why I took him out?" ...rather than lie and say he deliberately ran into the officer.

 

[revolutionary8]

Did you want to answer to the fact that the officer claims the biker to have "deliberately steered into" him, or did you want to conveniently ignore that part?

Because Long steered directly in to the cop, as clearly shown in the video, this is why excessive force was justified, lawful, and not an abuse of power.

I love it when someone who knows what they are talking about shows up at RPF.

And I hate it when RPF sticks its fingers in its ears and says "Nah nah nah! I'm not listening!"

Anyway... welcome to the forums, Cop!

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[malkusm]

And your case is provided by Prison Plantet

The police report section of the story was provided by the Associated Press.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Before one calls excessive force, we most know all the circumstances.

If an officer orders someone to stop, and the person fails to stop, then forcefully getting them to stop (as was done in the video) is certainly not excessive force. What was the officer to do, say to himself "oh well, that guy didn't stop. Guess I'll have to catch him later."
?

Please...

The only criminal I see on the video is the cop. He should be locked up and waterboarded. The other cop was right there, as well as many witnesses. The other cop should be busted as well.

And people wonder how they blew up WTC 7 in braod daylight!

 

[yongrel]

The police report section of the story was provided by the Associated Press.

Yes, this is true. However, I do not trust Prison Planet to provide me with a remotely accurate interpretation of events outside of that. I expect Prison Planet is manipulating the info in some way shape or form to suit AJ's agenda.

 

[malkusm]

Yes, this is true. However, I do not trust Prison Planet to provide me with a remotely accurate interpretation of events outside of that. I expect Prison Planet is manipulating the info in some way shape or form to suit AJ's agenda.

My whole point is:

Video depicting the event

Contradictory police report +
___________________________

Cop should be held responsible =


(I don't trust anything from Prison Planet either, but everything in the above statement is backed up by other sources)

 

[Deborah K]

Between assaults by police and terrible tasers, the police are fast losing credibility with teh people. The cities need to get rid of the tasers, have policemen's anger issues addressed, pay them the wages they actually deserve, whatever that may be, dump the bad ones, and make sure that those who remain are not going to harass and attack citizens without just cause.

The next step is that the cops who have been receiving training to act against average citizens will routinely be doing so. That is a bad precedent to be setting. When the time comes, we need the police to be with the citizens, not against them.

I don't agree with getting rid of tasers. I bought one for my 21 year old daughter after she got mugged in a shopping center parking lot last Christmas season. Now if some creep tries to mess with her, he's in for a real treat!

As far as rogue cops go, yeah they need to be taken down a notch or two, or three. But we, as a movement, need to be recruiting the cops just like we need to be recruiting the layman sheeple. In D.C. this past month, during the March, we reached out to the cops. We planted seeds. We made friends within the three juridictions that we had to get permits from in order to assemble; march; and rally. We intend to cultivate those friendships and 'enlighten' our new friends. We will need them when the time comes. It is up to us to educate them. Everyone who has a friend or relative or acquaintance or a friend who knows a cop, needs to start working on them and get them over to our side. Anyone with the ability to think rationally cannot deny that the freedom movement is on the side of right.

 

[Cowlesy]

Exactly.

I don't agree with getting rid of tasers. I bought one for my 21 year old daughter after she got mugged in a shopping center parking lot last Christmas season. Now if some creep tries to mess with her, he's in for a real treat!

As far as rogue cops go, yeah they need to be taken down a notch or two, or three. But we, as a movement, need to be recruiting the cops just like we need to be recruiting the layman sheeple. In D.C. this past month, during the March, we reached out to the cops. We planted seeds. We made friends within the three juridictions that we had to get permits from in order to assemble; march; and rally. We intend to cultivate those friendships and 'enlighten' our new friends. We will need them when the time comes. It is up to us to educate them. Everyone who has a friend or relative or acquaintance or a friend who knows a cop, needs to start working on them and get them over to our side. Anyone with the ability to think rationally cannot deny that the freedom movement is on the side of right.

Deb -

GREAT.

POST.

 

[ChickenHawk]

I'm not a fan of police brutality but if it's gunna happen to someone a Critical Mass cyclist is as good a victim as any. As an avid cyclist I'd like to body check a few of these bastards, they give the sport a bad name. Kinda wish the guy in Seattle last week had a gun and coulda taken out a few of them.

 

[revolutionary8]

And your case is provided by Prison Plantet

yongrel when he sees any thread linking to prison planet ----> la la la la la

 

[malkusm]

I don't agree with getting rid of tasers. I bought one for my 21 year old daughter after she got mugged in a shopping center parking lot last Christmas season. Now if some creep tries to mess with her, he's in for a real treat!

As far as rogue cops go, yeah they need to be taken down a notch or two, or three. But we, as a movement, need to be recruiting the cops just like we need to be recruiting the layman sheeple. In D.C. this past month, during the March, we reached out to the cops. We planted seeds. We made friends within the three juridictions that we had to get permits from in order to assemble; march; and rally. We intend to cultivate those friendships and 'enlighten' our new friends. We will need them when the time comes. It is up to us to educate them. Everyone who has a friend or relative or acquaintance or a friend who knows a cop, needs to start working on them and get them over to our side. Anyone with the ability to think rationally cannot deny that the freedom movement is on the side of right.

I agree with this 100% - but I don't think for a minute that any cop who is "on the side of right" would want to be associated with something like this. Just as it makes me cringe as a student at Virginia Tech that "that incident" is what first pops into people's minds, that "the killer" is the person most identifiable with me when I mention where I'm from. I'd imagine the honest cops cringe in a similar manner to see one acting as a thug and then lying about it.

 

[yongrel]

yongrel when he sees any thread linking to prison planet ----> la la la la la

You're damn straight. Prison Planet has yet to prove itself as anything more than an HTML version of Alex Jones screaming at random people on a bus.

 

[ItsTime]

I don't agree with getting rid of tasers. I bought one for my 21 year old daughter after she got mugged in a shopping center parking lot last Christmas season. Now if some creep tries to mess with her, he's in for a real treat!

As far as rogue cops go, yeah they need to be taken down a notch or two, or three. But we, as a movement, need to be recruiting the cops just like we need to be recruiting the layman sheeple. In D.C. this past month, during the March, we reached out to the cops. We planted seeds. We made friends within the three juridictions that we had to get permits from in order to assemble; march; and rally. We intend to cultivate those friendships and 'enlighten' our new friends. We will need them when the time comes. It is up to us to educate them. Everyone who has a friend or relative or acquaintance or a friend who knows a cop, needs to start working on them and get them over to our side. Anyone with the ability to think rationally cannot deny that the freedom movement is on the side of right.

We do need them. The problem is finding the good ones. My fathers best friend is a 24 year detective for the state police, and he says the same thing "good luck finding one"

 

[SeanEdwards]

I don't agree with getting rid of tasers. I bought one for my 21 year old daughter after she got mugged in a shopping center parking lot last Christmas season. Now if some creep tries to mess with her, he's in for a real treat!

I think a better defense against garden variety mugging is a money clip. You pull that out of your pocket, show it to the perp, then chuck it one direction while running in the opposite direction. The money clip gives the cash wad sufficient heft to make it chuckable.

I honestly can see almost no case where I would use a taser as a self defense weapon. If I was going to turn aggressive on a threatening criminal, I would want to immediately use overwhelming deadly force, i.e. keep shooting till they stop twitching. I'm not giving the dick any chance to get back at me for hurting him.

 

[Zolah]

Before one calls excessive force, we most know all the circumstances.

If an officer orders someone to stop, and the person fails to stop, then forcefully getting them to stop (as was done in the video) is certainly not excessive force. What was the officer to do, say to himself "oh well, that guy didn't stop. Guess I'll have to catch him later."
?

Please...

Well I was going to add to the end of my post ..."unless the officer recognised the person as a potentially dangerous and/or wanted person", I think you're mostly right. But in the case of this video - and only in my humble opinion - the force used was excessive.

I think the video on it's own isn't useful for judgement, but it will be key evidence regarding the report of the incident from the cop and the cyclist.

 

[Oyate]

I'm not a fan of police brutality but if it's gunna happen to someone a Critical Mass cyclist is as good a victim as any. As an avid cyclist I'd like to body check a few of these bastards, they give the sport a bad name. Kinda wish the guy in Seattle last week had a gun and coulda taken out a few of them.

Well this thread has deteriorated into more than the usual muck. Listen to this guy. No different from what you'd read on the Hannity/O'Reilly boards.

Listen skippy, protection of law extends to ALL Americans, even you ones you don't happen to like.

 

[CopThatSupportsRonPaul]

1) The cop didn't offer any signal for the biker to stop

A verbal signal is all that is needed, and there's no way that camera's microphone is going to pick up the officer telling the guy to stop when they are standing 40 feet away from the camera.