Controlled Opposition - A must read for everyone in the liberty movement

[MN Patriot]

Seems to me that the Establishment wouldn't want any uppity independent third parties to challenge their hold on power, so they would use any means to marginalize, smear or discourage any third parties that would give voters an honest alternative.
I'm not one who thinks that the USA has always had the Republican and Democrat parties, and we will must always have those two parties to represent us.
If enough people are motivated to create a truly independent third party to replace the most phony of the two (hint: the Republican Party who claims to back free enterprise, but supports socialism in practice), then they can create a third party to put one of the old two out of business.

 

[FrankRep]

What's up with Eustace Mullins attacking Ron Paul?


Eustace Mullins: Ron Paul is a Rothschild Agent

YouTube - Eustace Mullins' on FED, Ron Paul, Rockefeller & G. Edward Griffin

 

[blissentia]

It's important to look into how the gold standard has been used in the past, the ties between the Austrian Economists, the Mont Pelerin Society, and the Rockefeller Foundation, etc.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Yeah, sorry. When the interviewer, who is keen on The SECRETS of the FEDERAL RESERVE and The Lost Science of Money, started touting DENNIS FREAKING KUCINICH as the savior of our society while taking kindly to those who would denigrate Ron Paul (who isn't a gold/silver standard or bust believer [WHOOPS GUESS HE'S NOT A ROTHSCHILD AGENT]), I couldn't take anything else seriously.

There's skepticism, then there's pissing in the wind.

This is clearly pissing in the wind.

Also, there's this:

"In 1987, Mullins authored The Curse of Canaan: A Demonology of History, in which he set forth the theory that an occult conspiracy founded in ancient Babylon controls the world monetary system, evidence of which he sees in Talmudic and Kabbalistic writings."

Yeah. Derp.

 

[blissentia]

Yeah, sorry. When the interviewer, who is keen on The SECRETS of the FEDERAL RESERVE and The Lost Science of Money, started touting DENNIS FREAKING KUCINICH as the savior of our society while taking kindly to those who would denigrate Ron Paul (who isn't a gold/silver standard or bust believer [WHOOPS GUESS HE'S NOT A ROTHSCHILD AGENT]), I couldn't take anything else seriously.

There's skepticism, then there's pissing in the wind.

This is clearly pissing in the wind.

Also, there's this:

"In 1987, Mullins authored The Curse of Canaan: A Demonology of History, in which he set forth the theory that an occult conspiracy founded in ancient Babylon controls the world monetary system, evidence of which he sees in Talmudic and Kabbalistic writings."

Yeah. Derp.

Mullins also quotes Masonic writings. There is a synthesis between the high levels of Judaism and high levels of Masonry. Nesta Webster realized this as well.


And there here is an occult obsession among power elites.

I suggest, for insight into that aspect, some of the works sold by Michael Hoffman II: http://revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-hoffmans-online-revisionist.html

 

[AuH20]

Yeah, sorry. When the interviewer, who is keen on The SECRETS of the FEDERAL RESERVE and The Lost Science of Money, started touting DENNIS FREAKING KUCINICH as the savior of our society while taking kindly to those who would denigrate Ron Paul (who isn't a gold/silver standard or bust believer [WHOOPS GUESS HE'S NOT A ROTHSCHILD AGENT]), I couldn't take anything else seriously.

There's skepticism, then there's pissing in the wind.

This is clearly pissing in the wind.

Also, there's this:

"In 1987, Mullins authored The Curse of Canaan: A Demonology of History, in which he set forth the theory that an occult conspiracy founded in ancient Babylon controls the world monetary system, evidence of which he sees in Talmudic and Kabbalistic writings."

Yeah. Derp.

The same Dennis Kucinich who finally succumbed to the beast after a flight on Air Force One. Yea, that one.

 

[blissentia]

The same Dennis Kucinich who finally succumbed to the beast after a flight on Air Force One. Yea, that one.

This interview was prior to that action. Kucinich did indeed succumb.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

People here still buying into G. Griffin's version of history that a handful of men jumped on a train and changed the world by changing our money supply? Yup, just a few powerful guys acted alone to craft a devious plot to control the world via paper money. Don't look any further folks, it was just a few evil men on a gold plated train.

I wonder where Griffin was born? Any know?

 

[Travlyr]

What's up with Eustace Mullins attacking Ron Paul?

Eustace Mullins: Ron Paul is a Rothschild Agent

YouTube - Eustace Mullins' on FED, Ron Paul, Rockefeller & G. Edward Griffin

Is that really what you heard Eustace Mullins say? That is a real stretch ... and that is not what he was saying.

Eustace has previously stated that JBS was funded by Nelson Rockefeller and that he was told that by one of the founders of JBS. The fact that JBS has been unable to even slow down the growth of government since 1960 is a testament to the failure of JBS so far. Their tactics are ineffective. Why? Eustace is again proved right by the FACTS.

People here still buying into G. Griffin's version of history that a handful of men jumped on a train and changed the world by changing our money supply? Yup, just a few powerful guys acted alone to craft a devious plot to control the world via paper money. Don't look any further folks, it was just a few evil men on a gold plated train.

I wonder where Griffin was born? Any know?

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin

Griffin was born in Detroit, Michigan, on November 7, 1931.

"The matter of a uniform discount rate was discussed and settled at Jekyll Island." - Paul M. Warburg

So yes. There is plenty of credible evidence to prove without a shaddow of a doubt that powerful international bankers conspired to create a central bank in the United States of America at Jekyll Island in November 1910.

 

[osan]

...Glenn Beck ...who I am pissed at for the moment for trying to link "right wing extremeists" and Radical Islam..AND for some things he said about the Confederacy...and vomiting on the souths' Constitution in the Confederate Museum.

Pardon my possible dullitude, but Beck vomited on it?

 

[teacherone]

Hey IP!

Nice to have you back man!

People here still buying into G. Griffin's version of history that a handful of men jumped on a train and changed the world by changing our money supply? Yup, just a few powerful guys acted alone to craft a devious plot to control the world via paper money. Don't look any further folks, it was just a few evil men on a gold plated train.

I wonder where Griffin was born? Any know?

 

[Captain Shays]

The techniques he uses, amongst many, are called containment and diversion, and they are way beyond your ability to observe. So, yeah, I would expect that 99.9999% here would be totally bought-in to his "program." These guys are professionally trained... do you really think you'd ever be able to figure it out on your own?

By the way, the next time you talk to "G", ask him why he sat on the Norman Dodd video taped interviews for 20 years because his public excuse about this is pathetic.

I think what you're doing here is much the same mistake many archeologists made when researching the Great Pyramid. They did some math and concluded that the Egyptians were the first to discover the formula Pi. Later researchers found that the Egyptians used a wheel on a stick and a marker on that wheel to measure the foundation of the pyramids. Any time you use a wheel or circumference you automatically incorporate the formula Pi.
Do you see how your responses fit into my analogy? Because say Ed Griffen or the JBS does this or that pratice or technique you assume they are part of the dialectic (great conspiratorial engineers controlling the mind of the population) yet they are only using a wheel.

 

[jmdrake]

People here still buying into G. Griffin's version of history that a handful of men jumped on a train and changed the world by changing our money supply? Yup, just a few powerful guys acted alone to craft a devious plot to control the world via paper money. Don't look any further folks, it was just a few evil men on a gold plated train.

I wonder where Griffin was born? Any know?

Hello IP. I was wondering if you were still around. I'm not 100% familiar with Griffin's work. I have watched some of his lectures but I haven't read his books. (I've got a long reading list these days). That said, my position is that the creation of the federal reserve is a significant step in something that was started long before that. After all, the federal reserve is only the third bank of the U.S. And manipulations of geopolitics go back before the founding of the U.S. I would be surprised if Griffin doesn't realize and/or say this also.

 

[Captain Shays]

Seems to me that the Establishment wouldn't want any uppity independent third parties to challenge their hold on power, so they would use any means to marginalize, smear or discourage any third parties that would give voters an honest alternative.
I'm not one who thinks that the USA has always had the Republican and Democrat parties, and we will must always have those two parties to represent us.
If enough people are motivated to create a truly independent third party to replace the most phony of the two (hint: the Republican Party who claims to back free enterprise, but supports socialism in practice), then they can create a third party to put one of the old two out of business.

I agree with you but here's the problem. We've heard it said that "republicans and Democrats are different sides of the same coin". I agree but let's not ignore the edge of the coin; the mainstream media. That's what gives them their edge over third party challengers to their power structures. Information is power so whomever controls the flow of information controls a lot of power. Likewise the Fabians who took control of our educational system realized that to orchestrate their long term incremental plans toward totalitarianism they had to control the minds of generations of people. Thats when the phraseology changed from "We're a constitutional Republic" to "We're a Democracy". The difference seems blurred and the definitions nebulous and nondescript today and most Americans don't even know the difference between the two. But in our Republican form of government based on individual rights and personal responsibility we inherent our rights like we do our fingers and toes and ears. We do not get them from the government. But, in a collectivist sort of government structure like democracy we do get our rights from the government. In a limited constitutional republic if you attempt to take away the rights of free people it would be like ripping off their ears and fingers, or worse, ripping off the fingers from their children, in which case we would never tolerate it and we would never elect the SOBs let alone re-elect them. In a democracy we're just happy to keep what rights we can and maybe even get something from the government (some other poor working sap).
My point is this. We who would LOVE to break up the two party crimocracy by electing a third or fourth party candidate are up against YEARS of indoctrination in our educational system and the power of the mass media.
Me thinks Ron Paul has it right. Change it from within.We need to infiltrate THEM!

 

[pcosmar]

People here still buying into G. Griffin's version of history that a handful of men jumped on a train and changed the world by changing our money supply? Yup, just a few powerful guys acted alone to craft a devious plot to control the world via paper money. Don't look any further folks, it was just a few evil men on a gold plated train.

I wonder where Griffin was born? Any know?

The Money supply is only one aspect.
The Socialist Coup of 1913 has affected other issues as well. Education, News Media and the Military Industrial Complex etc.
They have had 80 years to consolidate their positions.

Globalism is the next phase.

And what does G,E. Griffins birthplace have to do with anything?

edit. it seems he was born in Detroit Michigan.

 

[MN Patriot]

I agree with you but here's the problem. We've heard it said that "republicans and Democrats are different sides of the same coin". I agree but let's not ignore the edge of the coin; the mainstream media. That's what gives them their edge over third party challengers to their power structures. Information is power so whomever controls the flow of information controls a lot of power. Likewise the Fabians who took control of our educational system realized that to orchestrate their long term incremental plans toward totalitarianism they had to control the minds of generations of people. Thats when the phraseology changed from "We're a constitutional Republic" to "We're a Democracy". The difference seems blurred and the definitions nebulous and nondescript today and most Americans don't even know the difference between the two. But in our Republican form of government based on individual rights and personal responsibility we inherent our rights like we do our fingers and toes and ears. We do not get them from the government. But, in a collectivist sort of government structure like democracy we do get our rights from the government. In a limited constitutional republic if you attempt to take away the rights of free people it would be like ripping off their ears and fingers, or worse, ripping off the fingers from their children, in which case we would never tolerate it and we would never elect the SOBs let alone re-elect them. In a democracy we're just happy to keep what rights we can and maybe even get something from the government (some other poor working sap).
My point is this. We who would LOVE to break up the two party crimocracy by electing a third or fourth party candidate are up against YEARS of indoctrination in our educational system and the power of the mass media.
Me thinks Ron Paul has it right. Change it from within.We need to infiltrate THEM!

I like your assessment of democracy vs republics.

Infiltration works great for people who have evil intent. What diabolical agenda does the liberty movement seek to conceal by conspiring to take over the Republican Party?

I think the liberty movement needs to be louder and more aggressive and confrontational to the fascists who seek to enslave us. Shame them as they should be shamed.

Use a third party like the Libertarian Party to directly challenge the Republicans to reform themselves, or else the Libertarian party will put the Republicans into 3rd party status. Openly state our plans and goals.

Might as well incite a tax revolt while we are at it; challenge the Republicans to introduce legislation to end tax withholding, so workers would have to write a check every month to the government. The first step to ending the income tax. If the Republicans oppose this idea, that would prove they are just as socialist as the Democrats. Another reason why we need a third party.

Various polls have shown great distrust with the two old parties, so the massive brainwashing efforts haven't endeared Americans to either party. I think the time is right for a legitimate, competent libertarian third party to appear.

 

[Captain Shays]

From your lips to God's ears MN Patriot. Now what's your plan on over coming the power of the mass media when they can simply ignore or marginalize our Libertarian or Constitution Party champions? How many people still think the tea Party movement is full of racists? How many people think Ron Paul is connected to the KKK? How many people bought into the "Bush's tax cuts for the rich" line thinking that some how we poor people had money taken out of our pockets to give to his rich oil buddies? How many people still think Al Gore is an environmental savior yet know nothing about the U'Wa tribe or the poor people of East Liverpool Ohio that he screwed over? How many people bought into the lie that Iraq had something to do with 911? How many people when asked "what kind of government do we have"? answer "Democracy"? I could go on and on and on about the lies we've bought into because of the power of the media and the years of indoctrination in our public educational system and so could you if you tried.

I'm not so set in my ways that I'm no longer open to suggestion so if you have one please bring it to my eyes because we both want the same thing and I'll join with ANYONE who can up root this corrupt, freedom robbing Satanic establishment.

 

[Travlyr]

I'm not so set in my ways that I'm no longer open to suggestion so if you have one please bring it to my eyes because we both want the same thing and I'll join with ANYONE who can up root this corrupt, freedom robbing Satanic establishment.

Honest Sound Money as described by Ron Paul is the answer. None of the elite antics could be perpetuated if we win the elimination of the central banking fiat money schemes, imo.

 

[MN Patriot]

I'm not so set in my ways that I'm no longer open to suggestion so if you have one please bring it to my eyes because we both want the same thing and I'll join with ANYONE who can up root this corrupt, freedom robbing Satanic establishment.

Billboards and the internet. http://www.freedomboardsacrossamerica.com/

Run third party liberty candidates in a unified campaign for EVERY congressional seat in the nation (plus as many other statewide seats, legislative, etc as possible), with the eventual goal of creating a political party that represents the people and not the Establishment. Make a 6 year goal of putting the pathetic Republican Party out of business, or at least an irrelevant third party.

We need a serious national discussion of HOW to make this happen, not WHY it can't happen. Too many people stuck in the past about third parties, like you said. A new reality needs to be constructed, but it takes a coordinated effort of many people.

 

[MN Patriot]

Honest Sound Money as described by Ron Paul is the answer. None of the elite antics could be perpetuated if we win the elimination of the central banking fiat money schemes, imo.

3 is the magic number.
1) End the Fed.
2) End the income tax and abolish the IRS.
3) Downsize government dramatically.