Controlled Opposition - A must read for everyone in the liberty movement

[LibertyEagle]

You are kidding, right?

You haven't noticed the racists are still keeping their hand in, trying to offend every demographic in Rand Paul's name? You haven't seen all the people screeching that Trump supporters will only listen to us if we're extra nice and polite, when they only listen to Trump and Trump is the only guy who gives Howard Stern a run for his money? You haven't seen the trumpeted headlines every time the pollsters find a way to cook our numbers down a little more? You haven't seen the messages of doom and gloom from people who allegedly understand how the pols are being manipulated and allegedly remember the major swings we saw Ron's numbers take when it came close to primary time, and suddenly inaccurate poll numbers were a danger to the pollsters' reputations? You surely noticed that two percent of us give a fuck about Trump, yet he has been the subject of thirty percent of the new threads, right?

I mean, you have noticed, right?

Oh, they still love us and want us to be unhappy. Trust me.

Uh, Tulsa, NO ONE wants to listen to people who are behaving like lunatic assholes. Just sayin'.

 

[acptulsa]

Uh, Tulsa, NO ONE wants to listen to people who are behaving like lunatic assholes. Just sayin'.

Well, it's a good thing you're stalking me, then. This way they can avoid your posts and my posts at the same time.

 

[LibertyEagle]

lol. Fair enough. Although, not stalking you. You're just one of the few posting this early.

 

[afwjam]

Bump in memory of IP, hope you are still out there buddy.

 

[jmdrake]

Bump in memory of IP, hope you are still out there buddy.

Yep. IP was (is I hope) very prescient.

 

[fr33]

We have been neutered, penetrated and left alone to slowly bleed?

Yes that's where the liberty movement is. Actually we probably were just a smaller movement than we thought we were at one time and we are coming to grip with it. The political establishment is shook up though. Your average conservative republican seems way different than just a few years ago. It's probably just because Obama had 8 years. 8 years ago conservative republican voters would have bought this new Red Scare hook line and sinker along with supporting ISIS in Syria if not for Obama being president. It's been pleasantly shocking to me to hear Republicans resist that foolishness.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Bump in memory of IP, hope you are still out there buddy.

Yep. IP was (is I hope) very prescient.

Still paying attention, fellas. Still working toward a better world. Just have had little to no time for online swamps.

Funny looking at these old threads. Don't think I'd change a word of what I said. Perhaps more relevant and appropriate now, then when written

Update on my perspectives.

- RP is part of the swamp/cabal (or whatever u want to call it)
- I'm 70/30 on Trump being a Patriot. Sometimes I'm confused by his actions. But then, it's no easy task dealing with these swamp creature. I'm giving him time, and my support.
- We are winning. Tide has turned.
- Internet behemoths need to be disintermediated... fast.
- Q Anon is BS... as diversion... sideshow.
- Our Gov't is less of a problem then those in the shadows outside gov't (media, internet moguls, arms dealers, human trafficers, corp psychopaths, etc)
- Clinton Foundation & UraniumOne was less about money and more about weakening the USA by denying access to key resources and moving it into the hands of the Globalists.
- Globalists plans are now visible for everyone to see. Attacks on multiple fronts. A great challenge. But Patriots have stepped up. Don't buy into Alt media, almost all of it is controlled.

 

[osan]

Update on my perspectives.

- RP is part of the swamp/cabal (or whatever u want to call it)

Buhwho? Ron Paul? I must be missing something.

- I'm 70/30 on Trump being a Patriot. Sometimes I'm confused by his actions. But then, it's no easy task dealing with these swamp creature. I'm giving him time, and my support.

I think you're on the right track. Witnessed a lot of hatred for him even here. I suspect that were those people to get a briefing on global political reality, they might not be quite so harsh. Nobody can credibly deny that the man has inherited a mess of epic proportions. Nobody, not even the much vaunted Ron Paul would be able to breeze through and make all things right.

Speaking of the crap with which Trump must deal as prezzy, I have been told that there is talk out there that our shiny new president has appropriated a special Marine strike force of some 2000+++ members who raided a CIA data center a few days ago. No idea whether this is true, but I hope like hell that it is. If it is, it would go a long way toward assuaging my doubts and suspicions about the man; suspicions I hold not because he is Trump or due to what he has said or even done, but because this is politics.

- We are winning. Tide has turned.

Winning what, exactly?

- Internet behemoths need to be disintermediated... fast.

Engrish, prease.

- Q Anon is BS... as diversion... sideshow.

See previous point.

- Our Gov't is less of a problem then those in the shadows outside gov't (media, internet moguls, arms dealers, human trafficers, corp psychopaths, etc)

Seems a distinction without a difference.

- Clinton Foundation & UraniumOne was less about money and more about weakening the USA by denying access to key resources and moving it into the hands of the Globalists.

BINGO. Give that poster a cigar. A GOOD one, too.

- Globalists plans are now visible for everyone to see. Attacks on multiple fronts. A great challenge. But Patriots have stepped up. Don't buy into Alt media, almost all of it is controlled.

Hope you are right about those stepping up. I do see some of it, but it seems so meager. But as you point out, media are seemingly paddling for all they are worth to get us to believe that those of the liberty ilk are few, far between, and dangerously psychotic.

 

[nikcers]

Buhwho? Ron Paul? I must be missing something.

The left is literally attacking Rand Paul because he is arguing for real tax cuts, they even have this 10 million dollar ad campaign they are pushing against him telling him to keep his word- they are trying to make him back down and not fight for a real tax cut.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Update on my perspectives.

- RP is part of the swamp/cabal (or whatever u want to call it)
- I'm 70/30 on Trump being a Patriot. Sometimes I'm confused by his actions. But then, it's no easy task dealing with these swamp creature. I'm giving him time, and my support.
- We are winning. Tide has turned.
- Internet behemoths need to be disintermediated... fast.
- Q Anon is BS... as diversion... sideshow.
- Our Gov't is less of a problem then those in the shadows outside gov't (media, internet moguls, arms dealers, human trafficers, corp psychopaths, etc)
- Clinton Foundation & UraniumOne was less about money and more about weakening the USA by denying access to key resources and moving it into the hands of the Globalists.
- Globalists plans are now visible for everyone to see. Attacks on multiple fronts. A great challenge. But Patriots have stepped up. Don't buy into Alt media, almost all of it is controlled.

Yes, the Pauls are bad, Trump's good, and we should focus not on policy but on this invisible Goldstein called globalism.

Good lord...

we are winning

The post above is proof positive of the opposite.

 

[devil21]

Yes, the Pauls are bad, Trump's good, and we should focus not on policy but on this invisible Goldstein called globalism.

The Pauls are not "bad" and IP didn't say they were. I think when IP says the Pauls are part of the cabal he means that the Pauls are Freemasons. Ron is definitely a mason, dunno about Rand but I'd assume so. If you research what Freemasonry is (and I know you have...ahem '33'), there are two paths a mason can choose. The left hand path or the right hand path. The Pauls take the right path. The proverbial "good cops" of the age old good cop/bad cop paradigm. The lights in the dark that are necessary to provide choices and the exercise of free will for the masses.

 

[timosman]

The Pauls are not "bad" and IP didn't say they were. I think when IP says the Pauls are part of the cabal he means that the Pauls are Freemasons. Ron is definitely a mason, dunno about Rand but I'd assume so. If you research what Freemasonry is (and I know you have...ahem '33'), there are two paths a mason can choose. The left hand path or the right hand path. The Pauls take the right path. The proverbial "good cops" of the age old good cop/bad cop paradigm. The lights in the dark that are necessary to provide choices and the exercise of free will for the masses.

You don't want to have people jumping off the bridges.

 

[osan]

The Pauls are not "bad" and IP didn't say they were. I think when IP says the Pauls are part of the cabal he means that the Pauls are Freemasons. Ron is definitely a mason, dunno about Rand but I'd assume so. If you research what Freemasonry is (and I know you have...ahem '33'), there are two paths a mason can choose. The left hand path or the right hand path. The Pauls take the right path. The proverbial "good cops" of the age old good cop/bad cop paradigm. The lights in the dark that are necessary to provide choices and the exercise of free will for the masses.

What the hell?

GOOD cop? Seriously? No such thing. All cops are bad cops because the very definition of "cop" is badness itself. In a very different world there could be good cops - what I would likely rather call "guardians". Were our police guardians of the right things, I would have little to no problem with them. They are nothing like that. They are bandits, murderers, perjurers, fraud, bullies, and so on down the dreary list of qualities that agents of the Tyrant typically manifest.


As for free will, the "masses", which is to say the Meaners, have no interest in such things, save along very narrowly determined lines such as where Johnny can stick his little WankyBit. Beyond that frightfully close channel, free will not only meets with disinterest, but with open hostility. The Meaner wants his slavery, so long as you don't call it that.

 

[osan]

You don't want to have people jumping off the bridges.

Meh... speak for yourself.

 

[devil21]

What the hell?

GOOD cop? Seriously? No such thing. All cops are bad cops because the very definition of "cop" is badness itself. In a very different world there could be good cops - what I would likely rather call "guardians". Were our police guardians of the right things, I would have little to no problem with them. They are nothing like that. They are bandits, murderers, perjurers, fraud, bullies, and so on down the dreary list of qualities that agents of the Tyrant typically manifest.


As for free will, the "masses", which is to say the Meaners, have no interest in such things, save along very narrowly determined lines such as where Johnny can stick his little WankyBit. Beyond that frightfully close channel, free will not only meets with disinterest, but with open hostility. The Meaner wants his slavery, so long as you don't call it that.

The good/bad cop analogy is the easiest way to describe the esoteric principle. Don't take the term too literally.

 

[osan]

The good/bad cop analogy is the easiest way to describe the esoteric principle. Don't take the term too literally.

Ah OK... pardon me, please.

 

[devil21]

Ah OK... pardon me, please.

It's cool. In fact, in a way, your comments are very accurate in that the esoteric philosophy is that most people are inclined to "bad" behavior to gain higher status than their peers. You seem to agree with that. A 'Ron Paul' is a choice to go the other direction and be of service to others instead of service to self. Most don't take that path but the path is made available. I hope that makes sense.

 

[osan]

It's cool. In fact, in a way, your comments are very accurate in that the esoteric philosophy is that most people are inclined to "bad" behavior to gain higher status than their peers. You seem to agree with that. A 'Ron Paul' is a choice to go the other direction and be of service to others instead of service to self. Most don't take that path but the path is made available. I hope that makes sense.

I'd be a bit careful with those thoughts. I don't view service to self the way most others seem. For me, and here I speak in "all else equal" terms, service to self IS service to others. You should take care of yourself first and foremost. If everyone did that, the world would likely be a far better place. Now, if you want to talk about self-service run amok with morbitity, then yes it is not a good thing.

 

[devil21]

I'd be a bit careful with those thoughts. I don't view service to self the way most others seem. For me, and here I speak in "all else equal" terms, service to self IS service to others. You should take care of yourself first and foremost. If everyone did that, the world would likely be a far better place. Now, if you want to talk about self-service run amok with morbitity, then yes it is not a good thing.

Can you imagine a presidential election with no voices like a Ron or Rand, or going back to a Perot, or other examples of voices of reason? When there are all the same cookie cutter candidates then there's no choices, even if the sane choices are ignored.

 

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

I don't think so. . . about good cop bad cop comparison.

Ron simply understands the principles of Liberty