Congress must end mass NSA surveillance with next Patriot Act vote

DamianTV said:
How about #1 we abolish the NSA and Federal Reserve and repeal the Patriot Act altogether?

Something about Tyranny finally coming to America, it will come in the guise of Patriotism. The Patriot Act is the exact opposite of Patriotic. It protects Govt from People, not People from the Real Terrorists.
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Uh, where is your plan to get that done?

I'm very much for it and even have a plan. It is a plan that escapes the box of partisan politics that has been so dysfunctional, that it literally created, by default, all of the problems that were used to justify the NSA, patriot act and a host of "solutions" to the self generated problems of our infiltrated federal government.

The plan.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution
 
enhanced_deficit said:
Obama is not going to let that happen. Obama was orginal supporter of PA according this shock claim by then Attorney General.

FF to 0:06 mark but stop watching at 0:31 :
https://youtu.be/ID91mi5c0OQ
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Do you realize that if Americans get their state legislatures uniformly constitutional to prepare for a general Article V convention with "preparatory amendment" that the president, the congress and the court have NO SAY over amendments that 3/4 of the states are ratifying?

Here is a real plan, but it requires Americans to agree that free speech has a purpose. DUH, think you can manage that?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution
 
I'll need to educate myself bit more on A V convention to offer a proper answer to your question but I'm a fan of free speech. But there were rumors that ddg's puppet masters had assassinated US Americans including under-age children for exercising free speech, so this seems like a complicated issue that requires more than cursory examination.
 
10 days left. Something big is happening tomorrow though:

Senate to Vote on NSA Surveillance Extension Saturday

The USA Freedom Act, which got its start as an NSA reform bill and has turned into a watered-down extension of the NSA surveillance program in general, is passed in the House, and Senate leaders have announced a Saturday vote on their version.

The Senate is facing strong opposition on both sides, from those opposed to surveillance and those wanting an even more straightforward approval. Sen. Rand Paul (R – KY) is already filibustering, and some amendments are seemingly going to be needed to pass the bill.

But if the USA Freedom Act needs to be reconciled with the House version, it may be too late, as the House has already gone into recess for the holiday.

The Senate’s alternate plan, also set for a Saturday vote, would be to try to extend the NSA surveillance two months, giving them more time to sell a permanent extension. There too, however, there is no House approval, and Rep. Justin Amash (R – MI) claims assurances from House leaders that they won’t try to push through a short-term extension bill with virtually everyone gone on recess.
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http://news.antiwar.com/2015/05/21/senate-to-vote-on-nsa-surveillance-extension-saturday/



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