Conference Call - Jan 14th 2008

[freedom_junkie]

I believe the big L's are taking over the campaign as well. guess who heads NY and all its counties practically? Guess who most of the NY delegates are?? meanwhile these people don't number as much as the rest.

Note to the big L's. If you expect us to blindly follow you if RP doesn't get the nomination, take heed. We have mind of our own. We will vote all over the place, some dem, some repub, some constitutional, some lib and some green. Ideolgy does not get the job done. I know many Libs who are not on this agenda, but then again, I know many Libs who are.

 

[ghemminger]

ghemminger, I don't know you, nor do i intend to quibble. but it is much better to engage those who disagree with you than try to smear their character or just dismiss them, especially when their concerns are valid.

By the way, when was this conference call and who was invited?

It is Monday 1:00 and invatations were sent out to 20+ grassroots organizations

 

[PlaytoWin]

You people need to back the F off of Ghemminger. The bottom line is this:

1) Every issue he listed is real and needs to change from the Paul Campaign

2) He is obviously doing somehting right because he and a few others have the ear of the campaign - they actually had a meeting to address our concerns. he should be thanked for what he did.

3) Troy, it makes no sense to pursue a communication startegy that does not feature an established communication channel to the grassroots. What do you expect the campaign to do, make time in their already busy schedule to field calls from everyone?

4) We need to dispense with all egos and quit bickering. We are running out of time. The only thing that matters is results and it seems like this is a good first step.

Couple of questions:

1) When discussing communication with the grassroots, did you discuss the fact we are very concerned because we don't see anything tangible on how the money is being spent? That coupled with not so good results has people putting their wallet back in their pocket.

2) Was the friendly suggestion made in having a presentation/speaking coach broached, and, if so, how was it received?

Thanks for your reply.

 

[michaelwise]

I would like to here a directive to the grassroots from the head honcho himself on what to do in the event of his untimely death or loss of nomination due to media blackout. Should we do what we think is best, do a write in campaign, sit out the election, vote third party, infiltrate the republican party to make it better? What does the good doctor think we should do in the end?

I think a statement from Dr. Paul himself on what to do, would go a long way in sending the establishment and the media a strong message.

 

[Soccrmastr]

Shouldn't the guy they hired to run the Daily Dose be commenting on grassroots activity?

 

[freedom_junkie]

PS

Canvassing and signs do work. Bickering does not. Wonder if half the people on this board are even canvassing w/ the campaign?????

 

[Ronin]

No answers directly from the campaign but we are learning all we need to know through indirect means of communications

Thanks for answering my original question. What did you learn?? I think we are all starved for information and being vague doesn't really help matters.

 

[Troyhand]

You're doing great things for Ron Paul by trolling on this forum. Congrats.

Third time you called me a troll. I'm happy with my posting history for all to see, so you might as well be calling me a Big Doodyhead. - Grow up, you coward.
I'm criticizing the idea. Are you going to tear apart my behavior or my previous argument like an adult, or are you just going to namecall? Bore me, please with your reply.

 

[ghemminger]

I believe the big L's are taking over the campaign as well. guess who heads NY and all its counties practically? Guess who most of the NY delegates are?? meanwhile these people don't number as much as the rest.

Note to the big L's. If you expect us to blindly follow you if RP doesn't get the nomination, take heed. We have mind of our own. We will vote all over the place, some dem, some repub, some constitutional, some lib and some green. Ideolgy does not get the job done. I know many Libs who are not on this agenda, but then again, I know many Libs who are.

+1000 All RP supporters carefully read this thread before attacking anyone

 

[szczebrzeszyn]

I like ghemminger a LOT, one of my favorite well known grassroots members.

Me too, he's very entertaining.

 

[free.alive]

ghemminger, I'm privy to much, much more than you would think. You just won't hear me talking about it.

 

[ghemminger]

Did you ask them where are our anti-war ad is?????????????????????????

No that is a minor problem...

 

[ghemminger]

You people need to back the F off of Ghemminger. The bottom line is this:

1) Every issue he listed is real and needs to change from the Paul Campaign

2) He is obviously doing somehting right because he and a few others have the ear of the campaign - they actually had a meeting to address our concerns. he should be thanked for what he did.

3) Troy, it makes no sense to pursue a communication startegy that does not feature an established communication channel to the grassroots. What do you expect the campaign to do, make time in their already busy schedule to field calls from everyone?

4) We need to dispense with all egos and quit bickering. We are running out of time. The only thing that matters is results and it seems like this is a good first step.

Couple of questions:

1) When discussing communication with the grassroots, did you discuss the fact we are very concerned because we don't see anything tangible on how the money is being spent? That coupled with not so good results has people putting their wallet back in their pocket.

2) Was the friendly suggestion made in having a presentation/speaking coach broached, and, if so, how was it received?

Thanks for your reply.

1. Yes they understand your concerns -

2. no too specific for this time

 

[Dave Pedersen]

Many want to be a leader but they don't want to lead. Thanks George for your efforts.

 

[ghemminger]

Thanks for answering my original question. What did you learn?? I think we are all starved for information and being vague doesn't really help matters.

We learned that the campaign is listening and that Ron Paul himself will or will not make a executive level decsion to get this campaign back on track or not (in the next few days)

 

[Dlynne]

Good grief people. Don't ya'll understand that this campaign is in big trouble, with a capital T?

Do you know that scheduled media appearances and press conferences have been canceled with no explanation? That Paul has no support in refining his presentation so that middle America "gets it?" Do you understand that there have been lost opportunities for this campaign, most likely due to ineptness and inexperience?

Yes, I know Paul has run for Congressman and as the Libertarian candidate for President. But this is different. This is the big time, and we are not winning. We should be winning.

I don't care who does the speaking for grassroots, and I don't care about anyone's ego. I want Ron Paul to win this race.

 

[Stealth4]

We learned that the campaign is listening and that Ron Paul himself will or will not make a executive level decsion to get this campaign back on track or not.

wow you learned that "Ron Paul will or will not" make a decision? Thats Amazing, you must have ties all the way to the top!

 

[ghemminger]

Many want to be a leader but they don't want to lead. Thanks George for your efforts.

Thank you Dave - Ours is not the only effort to address issues - there are 3 or more factions pushing foward for major change - one closely aligned with the family....

 

[free.alive]

my two cents:

we do not need, nor should the campaign, any centralized effort within or among the grassroots to direct efforts here or there. Each state, each city and then county has different needs, different challenges and different supporters.

what needs to happen is that LOCAL grassroots leaders and LOCAL campaign leaders need to build that bridge between themselves and get working together fast. THis means phone-banking, this means knocking doors and becoming precinct captains.

the majority of us simply have no need to be concerned with what the next ad will be, although if we really do have strong opinions we should have a way to voice them and know the campaign is listening. This already exists.

All politics is local. Politics belongs to those who show up. Canvassing wins votes - everything else is just noise. These are three quotes that continue to refocus me on how I should be approaching victory in Washington, and what I should be encouraging others to do.

Yes! - to an open line of communication and a campaign representative that will report back to the grassroots answers to our concerns and questions.

No! - to a centralized grassroots "committee" (definitely a euphamism) because the grassroots needs to focus and work with the campaign locally, not nationally.

 

[ghemminger]

Good grief people. Don't ya'll understand that this campaign is in big trouble, with a capital T?

Do you know that scheduled media appearances and press conferences have been canceled with no explanation? That Paul has no support in refining his presentation so that middle America "gets it?" Do you understand that there have been lost opportunities for this campaign, most likely due to ineptness and inexperience?

Yes, I know Paul has run for Congressman and as the Libertarian candidate for President. But this is different. This is the big time, and we are not winning. We should be winning.

I don't care who does the speaking for grassroots, and I don't care about anyone's ego. I want Ron Paul to win this race.

Thank you Dlynne - we are hoping for a executive level grassroots board to be commisioned to help make Ron Paul make some very difficult decsions....soon