Conference Call: Dr. Paul is Willing, Seeking Indications of His Support for 3rd Party Run

[Tod]

I think Paul and Johnson would make an excellent team, with Johnson bringing managerial skills to the table that Paul might be a bit weak on.

 

[Ender]

Pipe _ Dream

So?

I'd rather pipe this dream than spend any time listening to the Repubs/Dems.

 

[idiom]

At this point RP has more real people support than President Obama.

I wonder who Palin would endorse at this point.

If we are going to have a GOP civil war lets dispense with the foreplay.

 

[sailingaway]

As much as I wish it was true, I can't imagine Benton/Tate turning Ron Paul, Inc over to the LP.

And if he were going to run as a third party, he'd need to mount legal challenges in a lot of states to get on the ballot. The "he wants us all to be involved" flies in the face of everything the campaign has said and done over the past few months, too.

I would be happy to log in tomorrow and have everybody mocking me for being so terribly wrong, too.

I don't think it is going to happen, but all along I thought the federal case that should be brought was on fraud and the two party system disenfranchising people because no candidate outside can run a national campaign with a practical chance of winning the ground is so slanted. You'd have to name not only the state GOPs but also the states for ballot access rules being collusion with the parties creating part of what forces people into one of the two parties. Show how fraud inside the party made that not a representative avenue and ask for ballot access and dismantling of ballot access requirements and preferences in funding etc for major parties as a remedy.

I like that case with or without Ron running, but it would address ballot access in one fell swoop, as he polled to get into the debates. At least I would hope it would work that way. and the facts we have with video are pretty compelling imho.

BUT if the LP doesn't think it is a good deal to have Ron at the top of the ticket in return for a solid chance of getting in the debates, which Gary's 1% from Rasmussen this week doesn't make it look like they will be getting into, and more funding and more media, then they dont. And that was the most likely able to work avenue, imho.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I believe that was what the caller was indicating as best but I do not think Ron Paul said that.

Right, it was Evan Alaska (FB Name) that was the host. He proposed trying to get Ron to run as Gary's VP. That won't do anything for the movement and will maybe help the LP a little, but no debate with Obama and Romney for Gary.
The only thing that makes sense at all, is Paul/Johnson. But that's not what the conference call was about.

 

[moraha]

BUT if the LP doesn't think it is a good deal to have Ron at the top of the ticket in return for a solid chance of getting in the debates, which Gary's 1% from Rasmussen this week doesn't make it look like they will be getting into, and more funding and more media, then they dont. And that was the most likely able to work avenue, imho.

Well do you think that the 1% will increase if Paul is picked for VP?

 

[wetroof]

I think Paul as VP on the libertarian ticket could get past some ballet access issues that would arise if Paul were to replace GJ as the nominee.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Well do you think that the 1% will increase if Paul is picked for VP?

Yea, it could probably go to 5%, maybe, but that's not enough to get into a debate with Obama and Romney.

edit: And getting to 5% would be if we kicked ass on the net to get it out that Paul was on the ticket.

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Ronpaulflix is disinfo?

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Yes. Title says "Doug Wead." You never see Doug Wead, just some dirty hippie with a beer gut claiming to have the out and out scoop on Paul. Are we that stupid?

 

[CPUd]

If he ran as VP with Gary it would help the LP very much but they would not win. Don't get me wrong I will be voting for Gary anyways but I'm saying I just don't see Ron doing this.

The only reason he would do this would be to show the GOP why they need to start treating us with some respect. It would not mean to be an indication to us to leave the GOP at all. Even thought the GOP can burn in hell forever for all I care it is still the best bet we have. In two years we all better be ready to start this over again provided Mittens bombs in the election. If not then we must swallow are pride and work within the Democrat party. Thats what im thinking and I'm always right.

But KNOW that I am a Libertarian Big and Little L.

And if the LP does well enough to get several states' electoral votes, we run the risk of an electoral deadlock. If we don't want Mitt to win, we don't want an electoral deadlock.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Yes. Title says "Doug Wead." You never see Doug Wead, just some dirty hippie with a beer gut claiming to have the out and out scoop on Paul. Are we that stupid?

No, not stupid, just a lot of us are naive. Me too, to some degree, but I'm learning.

edit: And hey, I'm a long haired hippy lookin' old man with a bit of a gut, please be kind

 

[idiom]

The campaigns messaging has been so bad most of us wont believe anything thats not Ron Paul direct to camera. This is not new. In fact this is the defence with the Newsletters. 'If you didnt see Ron say it, dont trust it.'

 

[idiom]

Have you met GJs 'managerial skills'.?!?

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Right, it was Evan Alaska (FB Name) that was the host. He proposed trying to get Ron to run as Gary's VP. That won't do anything for the movement and will maybe help the LP a little, but no debate with Obama and Romney for Gary.
The only thing that makes sense at all, is Paul/Johnson. But that's not what the conference call was about.

I heard the callers talking about "either" president or VP, and not limited to the Libertarian Party although that possibility was mentioned. Nothing I heard said only VP was being discussed.

That said, this would send a shock wave around the world. Many Republicans are disgusted at what happened at the convention and say they would never vote for Romney now. I think a lot of people are planning on staying home. Ron Paul says his support is far greater than they are allowed to report, which is easy to believe. If he can fill a stadium of 10,000 to capacity at UCLA they do not want you to know how strong he really is.

I say a Paul-Johnson ticket starts polling at 20-24% out of the gate, then becomes a three-way race as Obamney reveal that they are an empty suit. Paul easily makes the 15% threshold for inclusion in the presidential debates. Either way, we and Paul get to keep waking people up for another 2 months. All those college crowds show we are waking up by leaps and bounds. WE CAN'T STOP NOW.

 

[FindLiberty]

IMO,
If all the other LP's VP candidates "decide" to step down for "any" reason, I see no problem with the LP asking RP if he wants to become their VP candidate to run with GJ in November. RP is a lifetime member of the LP as far as I know...

The LP's VP slot does not have the same rules it has for POTUS. It's not impossible if the LP people involved really want to make Liberty via Ron Paul (as the Libertarian VP) a priority. (The LP POTUS slot is the more tricky one to set up for the 50 states - impossible for RP at this point after the LP convention.)

In Nov 2012, the LP will not win and RP will not win. Obama will probably win!

Even if Mitt wins, the LP still gets >5% votes for easy LP ballot access next time. The public gets some exposure to the Liberty solutions to the century old Rep/Dem created big gov problems.

I just hope Amerika can hang on to some freedom as the empire gets ugly and sinks. I don't see any solution to that!

 

[lakefx]

Yea, it could probably go to 5%, maybe, but that's not enough to get into a debate with Obama and Romney.

edit: And getting to 5% would be if we kicked ass on the net to get it out that Paul was on the ticket.

I seem to remember several polls done in January / Febuary with Ron Paul running as 3rd party against Romney and Obama. Had Paul in the 11-13% range. Honestly, with the atmosphere as it is today following the RNC...I'd bet that number is closer to 17% or even 20%. Ron can't win with those numbers, but he can certainly change the discussion and platforms of his competition without question.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

I seem to remember several polls done in January / Febuary with Ron Paul running as 3rd party against Romney and Obama. Had Paul in the 11-13% range. Honestly, with the atmosphere as it is today following the RNC...I'd bet that number is closer to 17% or even 20%. Ron can't win with those numbers, but he can certainly change the discussion and platforms of his competition without question.

Sailingaway cited polls that had him in the 17% range if I'm not mistaken.

 

[69360]

Some of you are living in a bit of a bubble. The average voter has no idea what happened at the RNC and doesn't really care.

 

[Ender]

All Ron Paul supporters need to call in and say: "YES, DAMMIT! RUN!

Then RP can decide how he wants it and off we go making a dent in the 2 party system.

Maybe even a train wreck.

 

[Ender]

Some of you are living in a bit of a bubble. The average voter has no idea what happened at the RNC and doesn't really care.

But WE know and that's what matters.