Conference Call: Dr. Paul is Willing, Seeking Indications of His Support for 3rd Party Run

[ClydeCoulter]

I'm not pissing on you or laughing at you. There are news headlines laughing at all of us because of you and rightfully so.


I'm trying to give you a dose of reality.

I guess up until November 6 we can expect some in the RP community to cling to the hope we are going to win. I question what dimension they live in.

The "Twilight Zone", "16th Demension", the "RNC 2012 Zone"
Who the hell thought we would be here? "Hitlerville"

 

[eleganz]

I'm not pissing on you or laughing at you. There are news headlines laughing at all of us because of you and rightfully so.


I'm trying to give you a dose of reality.

I guess up until November 6 we can expect some in the RP community to cling to the hope we are going to win. I question what dimension they live in.

just like the dimensions that Ron Paul's supporters lived in when they lobbied him to run in 88, 08, & 12? bunch of sychophants...I can't believe they even made him do that..why would they want to ruffle up the establishment feathers?!?!?!

Its ok, every revolution and movement needs a small amount of people, consistently telling them to give up. That would be you, sir! Good thing nobody listens to you guys, otherwise we wouldn't have exposed blatant fraud all the way up to the RNC chairman.

 

[cstarace]

I will eat my pubes if Ron decides to run third-party. Quote me.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I will eat my pubes if Ron decides to run third-party. Quote me.

Quoted

 

[fr33]

just like the dimensions that Ron Paul's supporters lived in when they lobbied him to run in 88, 08, & 12? bunch of sychophants...I can't believe they even made him do that..why would they want to ruffle up the establishment feathers?!?!?!

Its ok, every revolution and movement needs a small amount of people, consistently telling them to give up. That would be you, sir! Good thing nobody listens to you guys, otherwise we wouldn't have exposed blatant fraud all the way up to the RNC chairman.

You are damn sure dedicated. +Rep to ya often

 

[eleganz]

You are damn sure dedicated. +Rep to ya often

lol, I certainly wasn't expecting that.

 

[Badger Paul]

"What is his name? When did he speak with Ron? What did Ron say exactly, directly quoteable?"

It's a fellow from Alaska who somehow has RP's home phone number after working on the "DVD for Delegates" project four years ago. RP didn't say anything to him that he hasn't said before about non-major party bids but unfortunately he took it to meaning "So there's still a chance..." and ran with it. Ron's inability to give a direct, definite answer (not mention his Leno show appearance) allows for this kind of stuff to happen.

Of course Collins, grassroots persons might have more respect for your "authority" if you and other campaign "officials" didn't act like self-serving jerks to them. But as I said before, they've pretty much "fired" you guys so you'll just have to see what happens too.

The bottom line though is there's simply just too many moving parts for this to work. It's too late start anything independent now, and the LP would have to give-in to allow Paul to join its ticket and they're showing no enthusiasm about this proposal so far. That's realism, not pissing on any one idea are acting like "We're from the campaign, and you should know better!" behavior one gets from the "officials."

Good luck and if it happens, I will truly be amazed but also happy!

 

[ClydeCoulter]

For someone with such a low post count, you sure seem to be trying to stir things up over here.

Did anyone of any authority speak on this conference call?

And, Just for the Record Matt, we've had a lot of delegates only join AFTER things were safer for them. And, in any case, a person is a person, post counts don't count for intelligence, empathy, knowlege, understanding, wisdom, feelings, etc...

 

[Indy Vidual]

Isreal does indeed speak with Doug on occasion, I don't figure Israel to be a liar. And, your first post is full of inaccuracies, assumptions, and unfounded statements. As someone who started Rand on his Campaign, and has worked for Ron for well over a year, I would bet every dollar I have, that Ron will NOT run for President any longer.

+1
Time to "get real" & help w/ other projects.

 

[jclay2]

I will gladly vote for paul whether running or not. My only concern (though this really doesn't bother me) is that the thugs in the R party will go out of their way to blame romney's lost election on paul & johnson. Probably will try to connect it with Bush senior and Ross Perot in 1992. With that said. Run Ron!!!! The time of candidates like obamney is done.

 

[orenbus]

At this point RP has more real people support than President Obama.

I wonder who Palin would endorse at this point.

If we are going to have a GOP civil war lets dispense with the foreplay.

I like this

 

[Weston White]

You know Ron Paul should just do whatever it takes to stay in the race (even if it just a write-in-protest campaign); as we all really need something (this objective) to at least keep our pins in. Being that the establishment has been railing against us full-pull these last years and so far as all else is concerned it is not as if he is going to be holding his seat in Congress much more longer. So is it really such a bad idea for him to just hang tough for a couple of more months?

 

[Weston White]

At this point RP has more real people support than President Obama.

I wonder who Palin would endorse at this point.

If we are going to have a GOP civil war lets dispense with the foreplay.

lolz Yea, is anyone willing to take a guess at how many of Ron Paul social network followers are BOTS?

 

[RickyJ]

I will gladly vote for paul whether running or not. My only concern (though this really doesn't bother me) is that the thugs in the R party will go out of their way to blame romney's lost election on paul & johnson. Probably will try to connect it with Bush senior and Ross Perot in 1992. With that said. Run Ron!!!! The time of candidates like obamney is done.

Paul running actually hurts Obama more than Romney. Like Ron Paul said, parties are irrelevant and the GOP is not his party!

 

[Tod]

Let's see, Ron Paul has been campaigning for over a year and he isn't sure he has support?
And the OP doesn't know who Israel Anderson is?


Sorry, something doesn't wash in that first post.

 

[Natural Citizen]

lolz Yea, is anyone willing to take a guess at how many of Ron Paul social network followers are BOTS?

Not very many. Was reading a paper some place though that had some really high numbers of fake accounts following and a host of others. Twitter was high on the fake account list for Romney particularly.

 

[RickyJ]

How much can ron paul realistically raise to be able to compete? Will he even be included in telephone surveys?

Realistically, about a billion dollars. 10 million supporters giving 100 bucks average will do it. Or a million supporters giving a 1000 bucks each. It can be done, it is not impossible.

 

[orenbus]

What is his name? When did he speak with Ron? What did Ron say exactly, directly quoteable?

Here is a link to the MP3 of the call.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3SMzaqO0dhWd0ppUld1bXcwbjg

The guys name is Evan Cutler, He spoke to Ron after the convention, said he called Ron's house got in touch with Carol who passed the phone to Ron. I don't want to mangle the quotes or spend the time to retype the message, it's probably also better if you listen from the horse's mouth directly (if you are interested in finding out what he said) so you can form your own opinion. The part you are interested in starts at 11:43 where he talks about calling Ron Paul and talking with him directly.

 

[orenbus]

I will eat my pubes if Ron decides to run third-party. Quote me.

quoted

 

[orenbus]

"What is his name? When did he speak with Ron? What did Ron say exactly, directly quoteable?"

It's a fellow from Alaska who somehow has RP's home phone number after working on the "DVD for Delegates" project four years ago. RP didn't say anything to him that he hasn't said before about non-major party bids but unfortunately he took it to meaning "So there's still a chance..." and ran with it. Ron's inability to give a direct, definite answer (not mention his Leno show appearance) allows for this kind of stuff to happen.

Of course Collins, grassroots persons might have more respect for your "authority" if you and other campaign "officials" did act like self-serving jerks to them. But as I said before, they've pretty much "fired" you guys so you'll just have to see what happens too.

The bottom line though is there's simply just too many moving parts for this to work. It's too late start anything independent now, and the LP would have to give-in to allow Paul to join its ticket and they're showing no enthusiasm about this proposal so far. That's realism, not pissing on any one idea are acting like "We're from the campaign, and you should know better!" behavior one gets from the "officials."

Good luck and if it happens, I will truly be amazed but also happy!

sorry had to do it.