Common Core teaching thug life

[RockEnds]

Huh? Why don't you address that to an overprotective parent, because their children are the ones who end up in L.A. as adults, performing in gangster-rap videos, and other kinds of videos.

You seem to be in the know.

http://benswann.com/the-most-dangerous-domestic-spying-program-is-common-core/

Even the Department of Education, though, admits that privacy is a concern, and that that some of the data gathered may be “of a sensitive nature.” The information collected will be more than sensitive; much of it will also be completely unrelated to education. Data collected will not only include grades, test scores, name, date of birth and social security number, it will also include parents’ political affiliations, individual or familial mental or psychological problems, beliefs, religious practices and income.

In addition, all activities, as well as those deemed demeaning, self-incriminating or anti-social, will be stored in students’ school records. In other words, not only will permanently stored data reflect criminal activities, it will also reflect bullying or anything perceived as abnormal.

 

[The Bavarian]

So when will Pimpology be introduced in our schools?

I'm waiting.

 

[RockEnds]

So when will Pimpology be introduced in our schools?

I'm waiting.

Well, first they have to decide at which grade level they wish to begin profiling potential pimps. It's never too early to start. Prolly pre-school. Then they have to decide the best method to attract the most prospective pimps. Once that's accomplished, they'll need to design the curriculum, construct a teacher's record book that will collect the relevant info, and put a plan into place to brush off public criticism. Finally, they'll need to decide at what point in the child's development they'll intervene and process him into the system. And, of course, what kind of carrots they can dangle in front of him to keep him blind and compliant enough to stay in the system for the entirety of his life, all the while thinking he's big and bad.

 

[dannno]

better-dead-than-fed has a good point here.

I would add:

-Art imitates life and I would want to teach a child about the life around them.

-Rap is modern day poetry. If you disagree, you are probably racist.

-What you think is 'promoting' a lifestyle is not. 95%+ of the suburban kids and young adults I knew very much enjoyed gangster rap and yet they never participated in a drive by, gang banging, pimping or hoing... all they did is listen to it, dance to it and dress like it in some instances.

 

[dannno]

You can use it as a tool to teach your kids about freedom.

Why do all of the gangsters seem to control the drug trade and prostitution? Because those activities are illegal, so criminals take them over and the whole situation creates a lot of violence, destruction and despair in its wake.

 

[RockEnds]

You can use it as a tool to teach your kids about freedom.

Why do all of the gangsters seem to control the drug trade and prostitution? Because those activities are illegal, so criminals take them over and the whole situation creates a lot of violence, destruction and despair in its wake.

They don't, dannno. And common core is not about freedom. It's about profiling.

 

[dannno]

They don't, dannno. And common core is not about freedom. It's about profiling.

I'm not defending Common Core, I'm defending teaching young children about gangster rap, or music in general.

I would rather they know the history behind gangster rap and why they sing about what they sing about and how their culture became that way before they actually start listening to it when they get older and may get confused about what they are hearing.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

So how lucrative is a career in setting up 4th graders?

p.s. also why don't you address that to parents who set their children up to be adult "lumps of coal"?

If acting out the lyrics will land a kid in juvenile detention, there's really no reason they should learn it in school. People don't send their children to school to learn prison culture and develop the need to hire a defense attorney.

So should they eliminate all references to Thomas Jefferson too?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

she’s fired up.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...arn-about-jay-z-big-pimpin/?intcmp=latestnews

A cultural conservative became hot-headed? This is unprecedented.

“Another song talked about thug life. My child was getting an education about thug life.”

How does she feel about references to thug Thomas Jefferson, who shot a bunch of police?

songs that degrade women

Has she seen what the Bible says about women? Gangster rap has nothing on the Bible, when it comes to degrading women.

"My husband was about to blow his top."

A cultural conservative became hot-headed? This is unprecedented.

"We are Christian."

Will wonders never cease?

"I was so furious."

A furious Christian? This is unprecedented.

father was so livid

A livid Christian? This is unprecedented.

 

[RockEnds]

A cultural conservative became hot-headed? This is unprecedented.



How does she feel about references to thug Thomas Jefferson, who shot a bunch of police?



Has she seen what the Bible says about women? Gangster rap has nothing on the Bible, when it comes to degrading women.



A cultural conservative became hot-headed? This is unprecedented.



Will wonders never cease?



A furious Christian? This is unprecedented.



A livid Christian? This is unprecedented.

I'm just curious. Killed the cat, I know. But, why Jefferson? Why not George Washington or Daniel Boone? Do you think we like Jefferson the best, or is there some other reason you've chosen him?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2161-docs.pdf

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Why not George Washington or Daniel Boone?

I know little about Washington and Boone. I use Jefferson as an example because he gangster-rapped the Declaration of Independence.

Do you think we like Jefferson the best

From your posts about thugs and street punks, I figured you see Jefferson as garbage?

 

[tod evans]

-Art imitates life and I would want to teach a child about the life around them.

-Rap is modern day poetry. If you disagree, you are probably racist.

Well I suppose I'm a culturally deficient racist then...

"Rap" doesn't imitate life in any of my varied circles nor does it emulate "art" by any stretch of my imagination..

I'll grant that there's a segment of todays younger crowd that appreciates it just like some folks appreciated disco...I wasn't one of those folks either.

You'll just have to hang that racist moniker around my neck.:o

Or...........Maybe we could agree that not everybody views the world the same way..

You could live in suburbia and carry on as you like, I could live out here in the sticks and carry on as I like...

I don't feel the need to ascribe negative traits or monikers to your choices, in fact I'd be extremely happy to completely leave you alone.

It's this idea government is trying to cram down our collective throats that "we" need to be homogenous that's causing problems...

America is a diverse country, how about instead of forcing acceptance of differing cultures, celebrating the uniqueness of our own?

That's the point I tried to make earlier in the thread.....City folks have no desire to have Vo-Ag taught in their classrooms and I don't want to force them to.

I don't feel the need to belittle suburbanites for their ways, it's who they are and that's okay with me.

But, when suburbanites start trying to push their culture and mannerisms down my throat I have a problem with that.

 

[RockEnds]

I know little about Washington and Boone. I use Jefferson as an example because he gangster-rapped the Declaration of Independence.



From your posts about thugs and street punks, I figured you see Jefferson as garbage?

Gotcha. Yeah, I keep flunking my retraining.

Washington is a really interesting historical figure. You should read up. One of my ancestors was with him, in the rank and file, of course, as he fled the Battle of Brooklyn. My ancestor's whole family had to move from Long Island to Connecticut during the conflict. The British held Long Island, of course. Militarily, he was an interesting figure, but Washington's greatest accomplishments may have been the voluntary relinquishment of power. It's quite a concept when you think about it. The war was over, and he said, "I'm done. I'm going home." (I'm paraphrasing.) It was a pivotal point in history. It's one of the things that made this nation different from others. I don't think they teach that point in school anymore.

Hey, here's another genre with a song that doesn't belong in a 4th grade classroom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDixDqAUh0

Toward the end it gets rather graphic. Don't listen to it if you don't want to hear the details of a sexual encounter. Nine-year-olds certainly should not. It's adult content. They'd prolly get in trouble for just having it in the backpack or writing the lyrics on their book cover.

 

[moostraks]

Fifty Shades of the Common Core: how much porn is too much for high schoolers?

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/12/f...is-too-much-for-high-schoolers/#ixzz2g0kO9Ui0

 

[moostraks]

(WARNING: Graphic) Common Core Approved Child Pornography
Read more at http://politichicks.tv/column/warni...proved-child-pornography/#bQpVwB9kEbi7v168.99

The book, Toni Morrison’s 1970 novel, “The Bluest Eye,” is among Common Core’s exemplar texts for 11th graders...

the author of the book, Morrison, says that she wanted the reader to feel as though they are a “co-conspirator” with the rapist. She took pains to make sure she never portrayed the actions as wrong in order to show how everyone has their own problems. She even goes as far as to describe the pedophilia, rape and incest “friendly,” “innocent,” and “tender.” It’s no wonder that this book is in the top 10 list of most contested books in the country...

 

[CPUd]

Well I suppose I'm a culturally deficient racist then...

"Rap" doesn't imitate life in any of my varied circles nor does it emulate "art" by any stretch of my imagination..

I'll grant that there's a segment of todays younger crowd that appreciates it just like some folks appreciated disco...I wasn't one of those folks either.

You'll just have to hang that racist moniker around my neck.:o

Or...........Maybe we could agree that not everybody views the world the same way..

You could live in suburbia and carry on as you like, I could live out here in the sticks and carry on as I like...

I don't feel the need to ascribe negative traits or monikers to your choices, in fact I'd be extremely happy to completely leave you alone.

It's this idea government is trying to cram down our collective throats that "we" need to be homogenous that's causing problems...

America is a diverse country, how about instead of forcing acceptance of differing cultures, celebrating the uniqueness of our own?

That's the point I tried to make earlier in the thread.....City folks have no desire to have Vo-Ag taught in their classrooms and I don't want to force them to.

I don't feel the need to belittle suburbanites for their ways, it's who they are and that's okay with me.

But, when suburbanites start trying to push their culture and mannerisms down my throat I have a problem with that.

 

[dannno]

Well I suppose I'm a culturally deficient racist then...

"Rap" doesn't imitate life in any of my varied circles nor does it emulate "art" by any stretch of my imagination..

I'll grant that there's a segment of todays younger crowd that appreciates it just like some folks appreciated disco...I wasn't one of those folks either.

You'll just have to hang that racist moniker around my neck.:o

Or...........Maybe we could agree that not everybody views the world the same way..

You could live in suburbia and carry on as you like, I could live out here in the sticks and carry on as I like...

I don't feel the need to ascribe negative traits or monikers to your choices, in fact I'd be extremely happy to completely leave you alone.

It's this idea government is trying to cram down our collective throats that "we" need to be homogenous that's causing problems...

America is a diverse country, how about instead of forcing acceptance of differing cultures, celebrating the uniqueness of our own?

That's the point I tried to make earlier in the thread.....City folks have no desire to have Vo-Ag taught in their classrooms and I don't want to force them to.

I don't feel the need to belittle suburbanites for their ways, it's who they are and that's okay with me.

But, when suburbanites start trying to push their culture and mannerisms down my throat I have a problem with that.

Holy hell dude, you just discredited yourself when you compared rap to disco. Disco was around for like 3 or 4 years before it died, hip hop has been around since around the time disco started, and there were some variations even before disco, but I'd put it at a solid 30+ years.

It may not imitate life in your circles, but who cares? I daydream all the time about living out in the woods on a huge property, I hate the city, but humanity is beautiful and humanity can be ugly, but the portrayal of both the positive and the negative is just a shared experience which is what life is all about.

You may not be a big fan of Molyneux, but one thing he is right about and why more Christians should be promoting him is because he believes that humans need to strive to be more empathetic. He employs strategies on self improvement and raising children with the end goal of making more people more empathetic. Honestly, I can't think of anybody who represents empathy more than Jesus, which is a little ironic that so many Christians here hate him (though I'm sure there are plenty who are fans as well). But the point is, the ghetto is a place that is generally surrounded by negativity but the beauty of humanity glows through hip hop in ways that other music does not.

Not to mention, hip hop is not one person or one voice. There are thousands of people and thousands of voices - they are all telling stories and waxing intellectual. Some of it is really outstanding.

I'm guessing that as soon as you hear anything that sounds like hip hop your brain shuts down and has already decided you don't like it. That's no way to live, imo.

I'm also curious what "culture" is being pushed on you when you listen to hip hop? I can listen to country music without line dancing or even putting on boots. In fact, I don't think I've ever worn cowboy boots, but I can still listen to country music, right?

 

[Ender]

I don't care what music you like. Whatever floats your boat. The issue is that "pimps and hoes" are not exactly suitable curriculum for young children. Our kids are graduating without knowing how to read, write and do arithmetic. I hardly think it is old school to believe that our children should focus on the basics instead of gangster rap.

Didn't all people have a heart attack when Catcher in the Rye was required reading?

The real issue is that forced public schooling does not work and should be dissolved; it is simply a place to turn out compliant factory workers.

This stuff is just a distraction. Everyone will run around with their hands in the air and when it is tamed or taken out, then they will be satisfied with horrible public schools once more.

 

[Ender]

Holy hell dude, you just discredited yourself when you compared rap to disco. Disco was around for like 3 or 4 years before it died, hip hop has been around since around the time disco started, and there were some variations even before disco, but I'd put it at a solid 30+ years.

It may not imitate life in your circles, but who cares? I daydream all the time about living out in the woods on a huge property, I hate the city, but humanity is beautiful and humanity can be ugly, but the portrayal of both the positive and the negative is just a shared experience which is what life is all about.

You may not be a big fan of Molyneux, but one thing he is right about and why more Christians should be promoting him is because he believes that humans need to strive to be more empathetic. He employs strategies on self improvement and raising children with the end goal of making more people more empathetic. Honestly, I can't think of anybody who represents empathy more than Jesus, which is a little ironic that so many Christians here hate him (though I'm sure there are plenty who are fans as well). But the point is, the ghetto is a place that is generally surrounded by negativity but the beauty of humanity glows through hip hop in ways that other music does not.

Not to mention, hip hop is not one person or one voice. There are thousands of people and thousands of voices - they are all telling stories and waxing intellectual. Some of it is really outstanding.

I'm guessing that as soon as you hear anything that sounds like hip hop your brain shuts down and has already decided you don't like it. That's no way to live, imo.

I'm also curious what "culture" is being pushed on you when you listen to hip hop? I can listen to country music without line dancing or even putting on boots. In fact, I don't think I've ever worn cowboy boots, but I can still listen to country music, right?

My grandmother tells stories of when she was young, Swing was called evil. My dad says that some conservatives still say that Rock is a communist plot.

 

[CPUd]

You can mix that with Blondie - Rapture