Comcast Hints At Plan For Paid Fast Lanes After Net Neutrality Repeal

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For years, Comcast has been promising that it won't violate the principles of net neutrality, regardless of whether the government imposes any net neutrality rules. That meant that Comcast wouldn't block or throttle lawful Internet traffic and that it wouldn't create fast lanes in order to collect tolls from Web companies that want priority access over the Comcast network. This was one of the ways in which Comcast argued that the Federal Communications Commission should not reclassify broadband providers as common carriers, a designation that forces ISPs to treat customers fairly in other ways. The Title II common carrier classification that makes net neutrality rules enforceable isn't necessary because ISPs won't violate net neutrality principles anyway, Comcast and other ISPs have claimed.

But with Republican Ajit Pai now in charge at the Federal Communications Commission, Comcast's stance has changed. While the company still says it won't block or throttle Internet content, it has dropped its promise about not instituting paid prioritization. Instead, Comcast now vaguely says that it won't "discriminate against lawful content" or impose "anti-competitive paid prioritization." The change in wording suggests that Comcast may offer paid fast lanes to websites or other online services, such as video streaming providers, after Pai's FCC eliminates the net neutrality rules next month.

Think about Net Neutrality from the other point of view: "Do you want your content to reach our subscribers? Then you have to pay us more money!" They want to make us the things that are for sale, and we are supposed to be just fine with that.
 
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/...r-paid-fast-lanes-after-net-neutrality-repeal



Think about Net Neutrality from the other point of view: "Do you want your content to reach our subscribers? Then you have to pay us more money!" They want to make us the things that are for sale, and we are supposed to be just fine with that.

Your team on this is over at Reddit. History shows again and again and again that deregulation always provides better service at lower prices.

People who do not stream movies and do not play games should not have to support that infastructure.

If, as the left claims, the internet is a utility, then I would remind you that utilities are metered in most municipalities. I know of one here where water isn't. The company who owns the golf course pays the same amount every month as the guy who owns a little house in the village. Guess who supports that arrangement? Don't be that guy.
 
Good, I'd happily pay for the fastlane.

Exactly. We all willingly tripled our monthly internet expense when we were given the choice to go from dial-up to DSL then most of us gleefully abandoned DSL when cable came through. Technology improvements always cost the early adopters more.
 
Exactly. We all willingly tripled our monthly internet expense when we were given the choice to go from dial-up to DSL then most of us gleefully abandoned DSL when cable came through. Technology improvements always cost the early adopters more.

We did? Im pretty sure I'm on DSL.
 
Exactly. We all willingly tripled our monthly internet expense when we were given the choice to go from dial-up to DSL then most of us gleefully abandoned DSL when cable came through. Technology improvements always cost the early adopters more.

Hell, I already pay for it through the nose for a business line, with guaranteed bandwidth, static ips, and 24hour turnaround time if my line goes down. No reason they shouldn't be able to offer me a fastlane as well.
 
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Think about Net Neutrality from the other point of view: "Do you want your content to reach our subscribers? Then you have to pay us more money!" They want to make us the things that are for sale, and we are supposed to be just fine with that.

I still haven't figured out how a lot of "libertarians" are in favor of net neutrality. Cable companies should be able to charge what they want and offer whatever services they want. Then the customer decides to accept or reject.
 
I still haven't figured out how a lot of "libertarians" are in favor of net neutrality. Cable companies should be able to charge what they want and offer whatever services they want. Then the customer decides to accept or reject.

People don't understand net neutrality there has been a disinformation campaign going on at least since 2007 for the 2008 election. It was one of the things that got people to vote democrat, people thought that the republicans were going to censor internet porn.
 
I still haven't figured out how a lot of "libertarians" are in favor of net neutrality. Cable companies should be able to charge what they want and offer whatever services they want. Then the customer decides to accept or reject.

I'm kind of torn on it, TBH. It's like power companies. You don't really get a choice. I suppose you could go solar if your area's climate supports it.

While on paper, the libertarian argument is that there would be 500 separate competing cable internet lines running between every telephone pole and you just choose the company you want, I'm not sure how practical that is.

It's why I'm not hardcore on private roads either. You won't ever see 20 two-lane roads owned by private entrepreneurs, running parallel to each other 10 feet apart and you just pick the one with the best prices. Not saying the government does a great job, though. I don't think there'd be much grass left if it were left up to private companies.
 
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I'm kind of torn on it, TBH. It's like power companies. You don't really get a choice. I suppose you could go solar if your area's climate supports it.

While on paper, the libertarian argument is that there would be 500 separate competing cable internet lines running between every telephone pole and you just choose the company you want, I'm not sure how practical that is.

It's why I'm not hardcore on private roads either. You won't ever see 20 two-lane roads owned by private entrepreneurs, running parallel to each other 10 feet apart and you just pick the one with the best prices. Not saying the government does a great job, though. I don't think there'd be much grass left if it were left up to private companies.

Good points, but the government could allow 3 or 4 competitors for some utilities or provide their own "net neutrality" infrastructure.
 
I'm kind of torn on it, TBH. It's like power companies. You don't really get a choice. I suppose you could go solar if your area's climate supports it.

While on paper, the libertarian argument is that there would be 500 separate competing cable internet lines running between every telephone pole and you just choose the company you want, I'm not sure how practical that is.

It's why I'm not hardcore on private roads either. You won't ever see 20 two-lane roads owned by private entrepreneurs, running parallel to each other 10 feet apart and you just pick the one with the best prices. Not saying the government does a great job, though. I don't think there'd be much grass left if it were left up to private companies.
Lots of the stuff was because ISPS were having to block bit torrent traffic because it was saturating the internet backbones, and the other thing that made people confused is Netflix kept changing their CDN provider to whoever was cheapest and lots of times they would have really cheap bandwidth and they would would point the finger at the ISP.

It basically changed the model of how ISPS monetized their network they were forced by consumers to basically let companies like netflix and youtube install their caching servers directly into the internet providers backbone instead of the internet backbone, and then they would complain when the ISP backbone was full instead of paying to upgrade their own hardware. This was forcing ISPS to have to consolidate to cut the huge amount of losses.
 
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I still haven't figured out how a lot of "libertarians" are in favor of net neutrality. Cable companies should be able to charge what they want and offer whatever services they want. Then the customer decides to accept or reject.

I think what happens is Purposeful Misinterpretation. And its by Design. Just like the "Patriot" Act has absolutely nothing to do with true Patriotism.

So when I hear them say "Net Neutrality", I typically think to myself "what exactly is your definition of Net Neutrality"? Not you, personally, but any time I read mention of it on a news site or hear some tv talking head say it. One thing is for sure, what they want is the exact opposite of what we want. We want an internet where all internet connections are equal, in terms of what they are able to access. What they want is to have a handful of corporations that are in charge of all of the content on the internet. They will want subscribers to pay more to Comcast (or any ISP) if Comcast is to have any access to YouTube or Fedbook. What they won't offer at all is access to RonPaulForums.com ever. We want to be uncensored, they want absolute censorship. They know that the current propaganda machine has suffered greatly as a direct result of an unrestricted internet, and this is what they will do in order to modernize their propaganda machine. They want to be in total control and operate as the "Gatekeepers of Information".

Most people that have read any of my posts know of my idea to absolutely rule humanity comes from three key components: Belief, Money, and Violence. An internet takeover that puts nearly ALL information in the hands of the "Gatekeepers" allows them an absolute monopoloy on the system of Belief. Dont think about right now or even five years from now, if human civilization is around in a thousand years and we somehow have some form of internet, it wont be anything like what we have today, and nearly ALL information that is not directly communicated verbally WILL flow through the Gates of the Gatekeeprs.

They will tell you what to think and what not to think, and know exactly what to do in the event you think things you are not allowed to think. And they will do everything in their power to get what they want, and that includes branding lables on Total Internet Censorship as "Net Neutrality", just like Patriot Act and Patriotism are polar opposites.

Personally, I do agree with your point of view. Allowing access to the internet is the service they can charge what they want from their own customers. Taken a step further, if the companies charge other companies (IE: ISP to any content provider) is things muddy up the concept of Net Neutrality, and why there are different definitions of what Net Neutrality is, depending on who you ask. For example, lets say all physical roads that we drive our cars on are privately owned. When you get on the road, you are only allowed to drive to Walmart, but not to 7-11 because 7-11 has not paid your road owner for you to be allowed access to their road system. Thus, 7-11 is not only expected to pay your road owner, but every road owner out there, in order to get access to your business. What I think it should be is to allow you to go anywhere, and the only time you are restricted access is by either Walmart or 7-11 itself, as they are private, they may decide whom they will grant permission to come on to their property. That should be the Right of every website, and those Rights are being transferred to the ISPs as a means of controlling the flow of information. That is my greatest concern of what real Net Neutrality means.

Oh yeah, where you go in the internet is completely for sale too, because we are the product and have no say so in anything.
 
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