Comcast Hints At Plan For Paid Fast Lanes After Net Neutrality Repeal

[nobody's_hero]

Good points, but the government could allow 3 or 4 competitors for some utilities or provide their own "net neutrality" infrastructure.

Net neutrality would most likely win. I don't know any customer who wants to pay to be limited and then pay even more to have those limitations relaxed a bit. It's what Comcast wants, though. Nickeling and diming folks.

 

[nikcers]

I think what happens is Purposeful Misinterpretation. And its by Design. Just like the "Patriot" Act has absolutely nothing to do with true Patriotism.

Its the stuff they add to the bills that gets you. In some states getting a mmj card means you can't buy a gun now.

 

[devil21]

Your team on this is over at Reddit. History shows again and again and again that deregulation always provides better service at lower prices.

Like the California power grid situation that spawned Enron? I think "sometimes" is a better choice of word here than "always".

People who do not stream movies and do not play games should not have to support that infastructure.

Funny you say that since Hulu has become nearly unwatchable on our standard cable connection, right about the time that net neutrality is changing and a fast lane will be offered. I'm sure that problem will be fixed right up as long as we pay for a "fast lane".

I don't oppose deregulation as long as companies are being honest with their services instead of intentionally screwing with their infrastructure to justify charging customers more (like Enron did) to receive the service the customers should have been receiving. The issue is what is preventing a company from manipulating their own service to jack up rates in the first place? Never mind that cable companies have area monopolies and more and more providers are merging every day, leaving less options. Deregulation is supposed to increase competition but the industries are clearly becoming more consolidated instead.

 

[nikcers]

Like the California power grid situation that spawned Enron? I think "sometimes" is a better choice of word here than "always".



Funny you say that since Hulu has become nearly unwatchable on our standard cable connection, right about the time that net neutrality is changing and a fast lane will be offered. I'm sure that problem will be fixed right up as long as we pay for a "fast lane".

I don't oppose deregulation as long as companies are being honest with their services instead of intentionally screwing with their infrastructure to justify charging customers more (like Enron did) to receive the service the customers should have been receiving. The issue is what is preventing a company from manipulating their own service to jack up rates in the first place? Never mind that cable companies have area monopolies and more and more providers are merging every day, leaving less options. Deregulation is supposed to increase competition but the industries are clearly becoming more consolidated instead.

Regulation is what was causing the consolidation, its what created the "monopolies" in the first place. There could be lots of competition if there wasn't so much regulation. Ellon Musk said he could send a bunch of low earth orbit satellites that would just need to be replaced every 5 years that could provide low latency INTERNET world wide. Don't get me started with the radio frequencies that are not available for commercial use that would make WIFI go for 10 miles.

 

[devil21]

Regulation is what was causing the consolidation, its what created the "monopolies" in the first place.

That was the desired result of the regulation. To create monopolies.

There could be lots of competition if there wasn't so much regulation.

And a complete monopoly in the hands of a very small few is the desired result of the consequent deregulation.

Thesis/antithesis=synthesis. Nothing is ever "fixed". The end result is always what was planned. In this case, the end result is a "deregulated" environment that is devoid of competition so that the consumer is left no choices and any draconian measures (censorship, price gouging, etc) will be unopposed.

 

[nikcers]

That was the desired result of the regulation. To create monopolies.



And a complete monopoly in the hands of a very small few is the desired result of the consequent deregulation.

Thesis/antithesis=synthesis. Nothing is ever "fixed". The end result is always what was planned. In this case, the end result is a "deregulated" environment that is devoid of competition so that the consumer is left no choices and any draconian measures (censorship, price gouging, etc) will be unopposed.

I disagree with your idea that there will be no competition because of deregulation, there is no competition because there is still regulation, just not at the FCC. Even with the FCC getting rid of net neutrality you have the AT&T merger getting blocked. Its like when the liberals say that capitalism doesn't work because America is shitting the bed. We don't have capitalism, we don't have deregulation, we have an interventionist economy that is shitting the bed.

 

[devil21]

I disagree with your idea that there will be no competition because of deregulation, there is no competition because there is still regulation, just not at the FCC. Even with the FCC getting rid of net neutrality you have the AT&T merger getting blocked.

For the moment it is. Looks like a token bit of opposition thrown in at the last minute to legitimize the appearance of law and order. What comes out of that remains to be seen.

Its like when the liberals say that capitalism doesn't work because America is shitting the bed. We don't have capitalism, we don't have deregulation, we have an interventionist economy that is shitting the bed.

And it was designed to do so from the start. Again, thesis/antithesis=synthesis. If you don't understand what that means, please do research it. You'll quickly see that everything of importance follows that same principle/script.

 

[nikcers]

For the moment it is. Looks like a token bit of opposition thrown in at the last minute to legitimize the appearance of law and order. What comes out of that remains to be seen.

Law and order is the government deciding who gets to buy property?

 

[devil21]

Law and order is the government deciding who gets to buy property?

That merger is currently blocked on antitrust (aka anti-competition) grounds. If you are in favor of monopolies then feel free to stop dancing around it and say so.

Or we could go down a rabbit hole and discuss how it's allllll bullshit because these same corps have unlimited credit lines from the Fed (via debt markets) to implement their "services", making the entire topic an exercise in futility.

 

[nikcers]

That merger is currently blocked on antitrust (aka anti-competition) grounds. If you are in favor of monopolies then feel free to stop dancing around it and say so.

Or we could go down a rabbit hole and discuss how it's allllll bull$#@! because these same corps have unlimited credit lines from the Fed (via debt markets) to implement their "services", making the entire topic an exercise in futility.

What private monopolies are there that have been able to maintain themselves for a long period of time without government assistance?

 

[angelatc]

Good points, but the government could allow 3 or 4 competitors for some utilities or provide their own "net neutrality" infrastructure.

Most of us still have choices. We can still choose dial up, DSL, cable, or satellite.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Most of us still have choices. We can still choose dial up, DSL, cable, or satellite.

I was replying to a comment that included other utilities like power etc., however the town with the lowest cable rates in the country has 2 cable providers, in my opinion they (and every other government) aught to allow 3 or 4.

 

[angelatc]

Like the California power grid situation that spawned Enron? I think "sometimes" is a better choice of word here than "always".


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Enron was trading energy - it had nothing to do with deregulation. And they were committing fraud, which is already illegal. Finally, look at the wonderful job the government did there.

More government is never the answer.

 

[angelatc]

I was replying to a comment that included other utilities like power etc., however the town with the lowest cable rates in the country has 2 cable providers, in my opinion they (and every other government) aught to allow 3 or 4.

Who pays for the infrastructure? I don't think there should be an upper or lower limit on the number of providers in any area.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Who pays for the infrastructure? I don't think there should be an upper or lower limit on the number of providers in any area.

Ideally it would be the company/customers, I don't know about that city, It's been too long since I read the article.

 

[nikcers]

My cities water taste like shit so everyone I know who can afford it drinks bottled water. Some people say theres something in the water that makes you stupid.

 

[Swordsmyth]

My cities water taste like $#@! so everyone I know who can afford it drinks bottled water. Some people say theres something in the water that makes you stupid.

There are filtration systems for that.

 

[angelatc]

My cities water taste like shit so everyone I know who can afford it drinks bottled water. Some people say theres something in the water that makes you stupid.

Water is used for things other than drinking.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Water is used for things other than drinking.

I wonder if fluoride is absorbed through the skin during bathing?

 

[nikcers]

Water is used for things other than drinking.

Yeah but don't you prefer Fiji water?