Colorado state convention thread

[Badger Paul]

For someone who finished fourth in the caucus this is a pretty damn good result and combined with the Santorum folks, Colorado can support our bid to put Paul on the ballot.

 

[PaulSoHard]

OK, so when it comes down to everything, it looks like this is the count:

Ron Paul 13
Mitt Romney 13
Rick Santorum 7

With 3 left to decide, most likely to go to Romney though.

If Santorum's people vote the way we expect them to vote and it's anti-Romney, I'd say we won the fight in Colorado tonight. Not to say that there were shenanigans pulled. Shouldn't be anything to be disappointed about, considering some of Santorum delegates were on our slate in the district conventions.

 

[sailingaway]

OK, so when it comes down to everything, it looks like this is the count:

Ron Paul 13
Mitt Romney 13
Rick Santorum 7

With 3 left to decide, most likely to go to Romney though.

If Santorum's people vote the way we expect them to vote and it's anti-Romney, I'd say we won the fight in Colorado tonight. Not to say that there were shenanigans pulled

I dont know if we can 'expect' Santa folks to vote any particular way, if Santa decides to endorse Romney.

In any event we need 5 other plurality states, and ND and CO are down now, so we have to look elsewhere.

possibilities:

Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, Alaska (but the party has a tight grasp and has already played games), WA (see Alaska) Missouri (it is possible, but the way CO was, everything would have to fall right)... We may get NV, but will they be free to vote for Ron? Unclear, maybe they can vote their freedom? etc

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Yes. I am sure we had a majority of grass roots. The status quo is very strong and very much against Ron Paul. I do not have any evidence of fraud, but the Ron Paul support was very strong like the crowds he draws.

Umm, it sounds like you have very strong evidence of fraud, actually. If Ron Paul supporters made up a majority there, let's say 600, and the Ron Paul slate only received 300 votes, then that's fraud. We just need to get the count of how many were there, and someone should have that, vs. what the total supposedly was.

the bad thing is that it sounds like it was paper ballots, and that the convention was dismissed before the vote was tallied. Is that right? Why oh why did we not demand a standing count? If it's slates, it wouldn't take too long. Even people not on slates, or if the rules didn't allow for slate voting like that, you could still do it. It would be worth it. A big convention like this is too important to leave up to the goodwill and honesty of the leadership.

And why oh why did we not refuse to let them adjourn until it was counted? If we had the majority, they couldn't adjourn without our consent. They could do blessed little without our consent.

If it's true that we had a majority, this is an Alamo where the official campaign need to make a strong, strong stand and a big stink and refuse to shut up about it until we get a re-do.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Can we get a recount?

 

[speciallyblend]

with the conservative slate we just stopped the gop status quo obama republicans dead in their tracks. We so far have 20-33 and could possibly get 1-2 more counting santorum folks bottom line we won colorado folks with the conservative unity slate period! romney will not be the nominee unless gop establishment wants to elect obama for 4 more years. only 2 options in tampa now ron paul or obama!

 

[Agorism]

 

[PaulSoHard]

with the conservative slate we just stopped the gop status quo obama republicans dead in their tracks. We so far have 20-33 and could possibly get 1-2 more counting santorum folks bottom line we won colorado folks with the conservative unity slate period! romney will not be the nominee unless gop establishment wants to elect obama for 4 more years. only 2 options in tampa now ron paul or obama!

I'll take your word for it, but someone needs to elaborate how we have 20-33? Is this including Santorum supporters then?

 

[sailingaway]

with the conservative slate we just stopped the gop status quo obama republicans dead in their tracks. We so far have 20-33 and could possibly get 1-2 more counting santorum folks bottom line we won colorado folks with the conservative unity slate period! romney will not be the nominee unless gop establishment wants to elect obama for 4 more years. only 2 options in tampa now ron paul or obama!

can you break it down for us? Because the Denver Post is saying Romney got 8 of the 12 pledged delegates today.

 

[ItsTime]

with the conservative slate we just stopped the gop status quo obama republicans dead in their tracks. We so far have 20-33 and could possibly get 1-2 more counting santorum folks bottom line we won colorado folks with the conservative unity slate period! romney will not be the nominee unless gop establishment wants to elect obama for 4 more years. only 2 options in tampa now ron paul or obama!

So why are people reporting that Romney got 13?

 

[helmuth_hubener]

with the conservative slate we just stopped the gop status quo obama republicans dead in their tracks. We so far have 20-33 and could possibly get 1-2 more counting santorum folks bottom line we won colorado folks with the conservative unity slate period! romney will not be the nominee unless gop establishment wants to elect obama for 4 more years. only 2 options in tampa now ron paul or obama!

Ha-HA!!!!!!

I kept the faith and was for once vindicated! I knew you wouldn't let us down, speciallyblend! So what are all these bogus reports about that Romney won so many? Or do you know? Just slime-media making up lies again? What was the real tally?

 

[Agorism]

Newest GOP fraud strategy: tell the caucus that they will just count the results later on and post the results on their webpage (saying Romney wins.)

 

[PauliticsPolitics]

with the conservative slate we just stopped the gop status quo obama republicans dead in their tracks. We so far have 20-33 and could possibly get 1-2 more counting santorum folks bottom line we won colorado folks with the conservative unity slate period! romney will not be the nominee unless gop establishment wants to elect obama for 4 more years. only 2 options in tampa now ron paul or obama!

Yea, no one else is reporting this.

 

[sailingaway]

Newest GOP fraud strategy: tell the caucus that they will just count the results later on and post the results on their webpage (saying Romney wins.)

and that has happened more than once. They keep hitting us with 1) deaf chair (call a vacant chair if they are deaf 3 times) and 'we'll count overnight'

 

[Travlyr]

Umm, it sounds like you have very strong evidence of fraud, actually. If Ron Paul supporters made up a majority there, let's say 600, and the Ron Paul slate only received 300 votes, then that's fraud. We just need to get the count of how many were there, and someone should have that, vs. what the total supposedly was.

the bad thing is that it sounds like it was paper ballots, and that the convention was dismissed before the vote was tallied. Is that right? Why oh why did we not demand a standing count? If it's slates, it wouldn't take too long. Even people not on slates, or if the rules didn't allow for slate voting like that, you could still do it. It would be worth it. A big convention like this is too important to leave up to the goodwill and honesty of the leadership.

And why oh why did we not refuse to let them adjourn until it was counted? If we had the majority, they couldn't adjourn without our consent. They could do blessed little without our consent.

If it's true that we had a majority, this is an Alamo where the official campaign need to make a strong, strong stand and a big stink and refuse to shut up about it until we get a re-do.

I do not have evidence of fraud. What I do know is that former congressman Bob Beauprez is a banker who spoke for Mitt Romney on Friday and Saturday. The ballots were paper ballots and they were scanned after I left. The Teller Committee should be able to verify the vote count. We'll see. Ron Paul is very popular and liberty will win even if the GOP denies his nomination. Freedom is popular in 2012.

 

[speciallyblend]

I'll take your word for it, but someone needs to elaborate how we have 20-33? Is this including Santorum supporters then?

yes when i say we won that means we as ron paul and santorum delegates won with our slate we had 16 from yesterday and 4 ron paulers today and we have not included the santorum delegates to todays list yet so we need to figure out which santorum folks on our slate got elected and add that to the 20 total.

as of this moment we are at 20 with ron and santy delegates. i was to tired to figre out which santorum delegates got elected as of right now hard count is 20 until we figure out which santorum delegates won today on top of our 4 we won today !

 

[PaulSoHard]

So people on the ground in CO know for a fact that delegates pledged for Santorum during the caucus are now pledging for Paul is what I'm getting from this =P

 

[PauliticsPolitics]

yes when i say we won that means we as ron paul and santorum delegates won with our slate we had 16 from yesterday and 4 ron paulers today and we have not included the santorum delegates to todays list yet so we need to figure out which santorum folks on our slate got elected and add that to the 20 total.

as of this moment we are at 20 with ron and santy delegates. i was to tired to figre out which santorum delegates got elected as of right now hard count is 20 until we figure out which santorum delegates won today on top of our 4 we won today !

So you can confirm 100% that all unpledged and santorum delegates will go for Paul in Tampa?

 

[Travlyr]

So people on the ground in CO know for a fact that delegates pledged for Santorum during the caucus are now pledging for Paul is what I'm getting from this =P

Some of them.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

I do not have evidence of fraud. What I do know is that former congressman Bob Beauprez is a banker who spoke for Mitt Romney on Friday and Saturday. The ballots were paper ballots and they were scanned after I left. The Teller Committee should be able to verify the vote count. We'll see. Ron Paul is very popular and liberty will win even if the GOP denies his nomination. Freedom is popular in 2012.

That's the great thing about the caucus system. The giant picture of Stalin above notwithstanding, in the caucuses, WE count the votes. So, if we actually have a majority and our shit together like in Nevada in 2008, their only option is to shut down the convention.